EPTAbout some troubles (SlayerS_Jessica) - Page 9
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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farnham
1378 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:41 ranshaked wrote: Well written but I still disagree with you for blocking me on twitter. You're still an over reActive typical female. I wasn't being rude to you. You've lost my following by jumping to conclusions with me. You are a hypocrite. She isn't a professional. (eve). She's a gimmick as we would call it in America. It's a monetary and organized push for something that will never be. My team does it as well. In fact last night I allowed a female to start in the league match because of the same reason. Sex appeal and the glamor of a woman player. This happens every day and it's pathetic to waste court resources when their are many other serious issues going on. so you are from the future ? | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:44 uzyszkodnik wrote: Jessica behaved like the internet was invented few weeks ago, we all know how the 4chan and other similar boards work and their reaction for inviting low-skill cute girlie player should be no surprise for her. Also personally i dont like making distinction between female and male sc2 players, thats not a game in which counts pure physical power so everyone can play it unless females have some mind-related issues which prevent them from getting to masters - and as far as i know there are some girls in masters ( i think one is even streaming on TL ) and gms so there is no proof for such difference. She's not low-skill. It's been said so many times that Eve is at least Diamond level, which translates to high masters in NA. Again, also please take into account the cultural differences in Korea regarding the internet and defamation before simply applying western standards to the situation. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
 Glad to see it worked out, I'd just like people to focus more on the games though. | ||
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mr.grimm
Sweden63 Posts
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Duka08
3391 Posts
There is a huge difference between criticism and things which are far worse. Jessica said it herself. And she explained the decision she herself made in choosing Eve; there's more to it than skill. People saying she's "denying more deserving / better players the opportunity" are just plain dense. If that was true you could literally point the finger at every team for "not picking up players that want to be just because of their ladder rank". The post was very well written and deep. Strong words. Slayers HWAITING! Oh and we'll always love Boxer ^o^ <3 ~~~~ | ||
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darksage78
Canada243 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:42 strongandbig wrote: Many people seem to think it's unfair to give her something that she hasn't earned in the same way anyone else would. That thing in this instance is the chance to be part of Slayers and practice with the pro team. As manager she can recruit anyone she wants. Just cause a player doesn't seem to deserve it in your opinion doesn't matter. At the end of the day, its her decision not anyone else's. | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
he mad apparently too User was warned for this post | ||
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farnham
1378 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:40 FreezerJumps wrote: I didn't mean to imply that ladder ranking was the only important factor, but I do think it's quite a bit more important than gender and looks, which have been explicitly stated as reasons why she was added to the team. If you were in grandmasters on KR, playing against professionals, how would you feel when your chance to join a team is taken by someone else because she's a girl and you're a guy? I know a lot of people support affirmative action in e-Sports, but I'm not one of them. yes this is why people have to check their information is this information comes from thisisgame.com it was a speculation of the journalist not an actual statement of the team check it for yourself : http://thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=703754&category=102 | ||
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sarge89
Norway147 Posts
Slayers fighting! | ||
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Gh86
646 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:41 ranshaked wrote: Well written but I still disagree with you for blocking me on twitter. You're still an over reActive typical female. I wasn't being rude to you. You've lost my following by jumping to conclusions with me. You are a hypocrite. She isn't a professional. (eve). She's a gimmick as we would call it in America. It's a monetary and organized push for something that will never be. My team does it as well. In fact last night I allowed a female to start in the league match because of the same reason. Sex appeal and the glamor of a woman player. This happens every day and it's pathetic to waste court resources when their are many other serious issues going on. It's attitude like this that prevents females from being part of the community to begin with. The concept of just jumping to pronounce failure without giving her any chance whatsoever by seeing female gamers as nothing more than a gimmick. | ||
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farnham
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:46 darksage78 wrote: As manager she can recruit anyone she wants. Just cause a player doesn't seem to deserve it in your opinion doesn't matter. At the end of the day, its her decision not anyone else's. True. SlayerS, nor any other team, has any obligation to pick up the most "deserving" players. Boxer and Jessica are always looking for ways to really grow Esports, so it's natural that they'd base some of their decisions in picking players on that goal. You don't always just pick the best non-team player on the server. You pick players that will work well with your practice environment, players with a good attitude, and, really, with any other trait that you think would be beneficial as a whole. Skill is only one aspect of a player. | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:43 JinDesu wrote: Except the damn thread is labeled "Slayers Jessica overreacting!?" The thread wasn't about the sex stuff, most people who thought Jessica was overreacting thought that because she was threatening to sue people who criticized the decision to do affirmative action like this, people who said Eve was not good enough to be on Slayers, etc. | ||
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FreezerJumps
Canada653 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:43 zhurai wrote: FXOKorea's still recruiting..... the "chance to join a team" is superfluous, even then, who says people still can't join SlayerS? Eve takes up resources, which means these are fewer resources for other players. Whoever practices with her is going to get next to nothing from the practice, because she's not good enough to put up a fight. She's also going to take up coaching time that would be better used on the players who are actually competing. I'm also guessing the SlayerS house has a finite capacity, so Eve being there means someone else can't be. | ||
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
On July 22 2011 05:01 SlayerS_Jessica wrote: But I am hurt that even some among you would attack us without the full evidence. Do note that it's indeed only some, theres always bound to be some morons in all bigger communities that love to hide behind the monitor and then group up and attack one of the easier targets, in this case the first girl to be introduced in GSL. In any case I hope both Slayers and Eve do well! | ||
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
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obsKura
Ireland1061 Posts
As a fellow female gamer I know what Eve is going through. There are so many male players always telling you that you are either not suppose to play games or that you simply cannot be successful if you are female. That's just total bullshit. Behind screen, mouse and keyboard males and females does have the same options, we are equal. I fully support SlayerS and Eve and I bow before you for taking the initiative to try to bring also female players to the scene and support her. She might not (yet) be a top player but with good and enough training (which SlayerS obviously is able to provide by far) she can become really really good. I will cheer for her like for all the other SlayerS players. Please send her my best wishes and tell her to not be upset or give up. Unfortunately we are still living in times where there are still a lot of areas where females are either not allowed, not equally accepted or undesired. I never gave a shit about this. I'm actually total envious about the face that there are those strict rules in Korea for cyber crimes and that you can sue people for this. Sometimes you simply have to go the hard way of showing people they cannot do everything to you without consequences. Kisses and greetings to the SlayerS team! - obsKura | ||
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Tehs Tehklz
United States330 Posts
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ranshaked
United States870 Posts
Female gaming will never be up to par with male gaming. It's like any other sport. It's funny how this is called sexism. When the only reason she was chosen was because she is a female | ||
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