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Whenever you hit post in this thread, think long and hard. Are you showing the proper amount of respect? If that is not the case, do not hit the post button.
DBHErazor
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden181 Posts
July 21 2011 20:50 GMT
#181
On July 22 2011 05:49 djWHEAT wrote:
ONE TROLL AT A TIME. Damn I like SlayerS_Jessica.



One troll at a time baby
Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
July 21 2011 20:50 GMT
#182
On July 22 2011 05:40 FreezerJumps wrote:
I didn't mean to imply that ladder ranking was the only important factor, but I do think it's quite a bit more important than gender and looks, which have been explicitly stated as reasons why she was added to the team.

If you were in grandmasters on KR, playing against professionals, how would you feel when your chance to join a team is taken by someone else because she's a girl and you're a guy?

But do you know for sure that Eve was chosen over a GM KR player? I'm positive there a lot more amazing players on the KR servers that teams haven't picked up. They've probably had people with lower skill chosen over them too.
You don't necessarily choose someone based straight on skill, you choose someone based on if they have potential to be even better, if they can represent the team well not only in the game but in public, how well they work with the rest of the team..

Jessica said she chose Eve because she saw she had potential and wanted to get more female players into the pro SC2 scene. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the way she chose or what she's doing.
you are perfect porcelain.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
July 21 2011 20:50 GMT
#183
On July 22 2011 05:49 djWHEAT wrote:
ONE TROLL AT A TIME. Damn I like SlayerS_Jessica.

I was waiting for that!!! djWHEAT never fails.
KoTakUEurO
Profile Joined May 2011
605 Posts
July 21 2011 20:51 GMT
#184
SlayerS has always got my full support!
I wish you, the team, and Eve all the best.
SlayerS fighting!
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 21 2011 20:51 GMT
#185
On July 22 2011 05:49 ranshaked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 05:45 farnham wrote:
On July 22 2011 05:41 ranshaked wrote:
Well written but I still disagree with you for blocking me on twitter. You're still an over reActive typical female. I wasn't being rude to you. You've lost my following by jumping to conclusions with me. You are a hypocrite.

She isn't a professional. (eve). She's a gimmick as we would call it in America. It's a monetary and organized push for something that will never be. My team does it as well. In fact last night I allowed a female to start in the league match because of the same reason. Sex appeal and the glamor of a woman player.

This happens every day and it's pathetic to waste court resources when their are many other serious issues going on.

so you are from the future ?

Female gaming will never be up to par with male gaming. It's like any other sport. It's funny how this is called sexism. When the only reason she was chosen was because she is a female


Wrong. Saying the only reason she was chosen is because she is female ignores the fact that SlayerS also saw potential in her. Or is BoxeR's ability to spot potential suddenly null and void due to how Eve is a woman?
Xplitcit
Profile Joined October 2010
United States419 Posts
July 21 2011 20:51 GMT
#186
Slayers_Jessica has way better English than me.. Haeun_Cielu doen't know shit.
It aint easy being crazy
AxelTVx
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada916 Posts
July 21 2011 20:51 GMT
#187
This is dam amazing! Jessica keep working hard!

누나 진짜잘 하고잇다!
Axel 145 Masters Protoss
Fluffet
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden47 Posts
July 21 2011 20:52 GMT
#188
It saddens me why people have to make photoshopped pictures like that. It is humiliating, and it discourages more females to commit themselves to becoming pro-gamers.

As for the flamewar that has ensued, it's not important to me. What I like is the fact that you took a brave step in hiring a female in such a male-dominated field. The results aren't that important here, it's just healthy for e-sports to have more females interested in it. Keep doing what you do.
More fluff to the people
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
July 21 2011 20:52 GMT
#189
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Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
July 21 2011 20:52 GMT
#190
Slayers_Eve fighting!
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
July 21 2011 20:52 GMT
#191
On July 22 2011 05:48 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 05:43 JinDesu wrote:
On July 22 2011 05:42 strongandbig wrote:
Although Jessica is totally right to defend Eve from the porn people and other bullies, there is still the original problem which we talked about.

No one thought that the response to them was overreacting. What we thought was a problem, was the way Jessica doesn't see any difference between sexual harassment and people criticizing the team for it's actions.

Jessica recognizes that Eve is not currently skilled enough to play in professional games.

Many people seem to think it's unfair to give her something that she hasn't earned in the same way anyone else would. That thing in this instance is the chance to be part of Slayers and practice with the pro team.

There are good arguments for and against affirmative action like this. But Jessica needs to understand that there is a difference between people who disagree with affirmative action for girls in ESPORTS and people who sexually harass over the Internet.


Except the damn thread is labeled "Slayers Jessica overreacting!?"

The thread wasn't about the sex stuff, most people who thought Jessica was overreacting thought that because she was threatening to sue people who criticized the decision to do affirmative action like this, people who said Eve was not good enough to be on Slayers, etc.


Then don't say "no one thought". There were a ton of people in the thread saying "lol, Jessica don't know to let trolls be"

Criticizing her recruitment of Jessica is a completely different issue, and she has that explained partly in her post - Recruiting Eve is an attempt to spur more female gamers to join in SC2.
Yargh
Asturas
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Finland587 Posts
July 21 2011 20:52 GMT
#192
Thank You for giving detailed insight! I agree with You and I understand the frustration and anger.
And SlayerS_Eve is Diamond? That is very impressive considered how hard is on Korean ladder.

SlayerS fighting!
There are no boundaries, that's the final conclusion.
hobosrus
Profile Joined June 2011
United States99 Posts
July 21 2011 20:52 GMT
#193
Mr Haeun_Cielu is in the wrong here but i still don't think that eve is qualified to be a progamer if she is only in diamond. By choosing her over other, better male players, isn't that giving her special treatment because she is a girl?
There is obviously a huge racial imbalance in the global starleague. Just take a look at the code s roster: Korean Korean Korean Canadian Korean...
To3-Knee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada100 Posts
July 21 2011 20:52 GMT
#194
SlayerS fighting!

Just here to give my support. I hope Jessica continues to work hard at pushing the sc2 community forward. Regardless of the haters. It takes drastic and controversial events like this to help change the expectations of a community. At one point in time, women were not allowed to go to school. They were considered inferior. Then, society changed and they were welcome. They obviously trailed far behind men, but looking at the education today - we see a drastic change. If anything, women dominate the education system. :D

Thank you for being apart of that change!
Xplitcit
Profile Joined October 2010
United States419 Posts
July 21 2011 20:52 GMT
#195
Put Eve on a televise match and silence all the haters
It aint easy being crazy
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2111 Posts
July 21 2011 20:53 GMT
#196
I support SlayerS.
One troll at a time.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
FreezerJumps
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada653 Posts
July 21 2011 20:53 GMT
#197
On July 22 2011 05:47 farnham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 05:40 FreezerJumps wrote:
On July 22 2011 05:35 Charger wrote:
On July 22 2011 05:25 FreezerJumps wrote:
I don't support Eve, because she doesn't deserve what she's been given. I don't support Jessica, because she's given an opportunity to someone far less deserving than the masters and gransmasters players who have done far more to earn a contract.

But I also don't support the people who are saying anything worse than what I just said, nor do I support any of the supposed hatred and pictures which I haven't seen.


Yeah, ladder ranking is all that people should consider when giving someone an opportunity to play on a team................. :o

edit - Go SlayerS! And go BoxeR!!!!!!! <3


I didn't mean to imply that ladder ranking was the only important factor, but I do think it's quite a bit more important than gender and looks, which have been explicitly stated as reasons why she was added to the team.

If you were in grandmasters on KR, playing against professionals, how would you feel when your chance to join a team is taken by someone else because she's a girl and you're a guy?

I know a lot of people support affirmative action in e-Sports, but I'm not one of them.

yes this is why people have to check their information is

this information comes from thisisgame.com

it was a speculation of the journalist not an actual statement of the team

check it for yourself : http://thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=703754&category=102


From the OP:

She was not selected through the pro-gamer casting system, but she is someone I selected for the team to help start having female competitors in Starcraft 2


Maybe I was wrong about the looks part, but my point stands. Gender shouldn't be a factor at all.
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
July 21 2011 20:53 GMT
#198
I support everything that your team has and will do. I find your decisions based from potential to be brilliant, and cannot wait to see how this idea turns out.

Don't take things too hard, and keep fighting~~

Go SlayerS!!!!
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
July 21 2011 20:53 GMT
#199
Great post. Although I don't agree with suing people for trolling on the internet (I guess it is a cultural thing in Korea) it is nice to get perspective on this story straight from the source.
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
July 21 2011 20:53 GMT
#200
i support SlayerS_Jessica.

if internet was more like real life, people wouldn't do stupid things all the time. honestly, sometimes it is sickening what you can get away with. when it's all done, you turn off your screen and go to sleep, happy you had a few laughs, while somebodies psyche suffers. SlayerS.EVE is a teenager. animals.
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
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