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Whenever you hit post in this thread, think long and hard. Are you showing the proper amount of respect? If that is not the case, do not hit the post button.
Xzyerasu
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland14 Posts
August 18 2011 16:53 GMT
#1141
I love you, your team and the idea of introducing eve. Pls don't get discouraged and sue them trolls
Gnolomweb
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2 Posts
August 24 2011 09:44 GMT
#1142
I support freedom of speech regardless of how atrocious. I support SlayerS team as well as Eve and Jessica's reaction. I also support all the internet trolls point of view and adventuress likeness creations. As a minor celebrity of my own home town there are a lot of cartoons which negatively use my likeness--while I may disagree--it is someone's view and I respect it.
⌒‿⌒)っ︵ ┬──┬
Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
August 24 2011 10:06 GMT
#1143
I don't really get the problem. People tease them for picking up a diamond recruit? Why should they care about anything people say? And why should I care?
TG Sambo... Intel classic! Life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Generalul
Profile Joined March 2011
Romania114 Posts
August 24 2011 11:10 GMT
#1144
Lol, as long as the hate trolls aren't board members of Slayers and they didn't invest a cent in your team, how can they rage about who you invite or not? And for sure we need more girls in the SC 2 scene, yours was a sound decision. Gl and good games in the future!
www.comanda-caricaturi.ro
jEBUsWISH
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1 Post
August 24 2011 14:34 GMT
#1145
I wish more females played StarCraft 2 :/ It'd be great to have a conversation about it.
This is just a road block for you guys, I'm sure it'll work out :D
Keep at it!
Noradrenaline
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia41 Posts
August 24 2011 14:57 GMT
#1146
I accuse myself of the following crimes:

Together with other agents, I have counterfeited sexual imagery
Wrecked cyberspace machinery
Polluted the waters of public opinion
Guided eurasian rocket bombs to target lim yo hwan by means of encrypted internet packets

I stand here a victim of the influence of Haeun_Cielu; Guilty on all counts.

I am glad I was caught.. I was mentally deranged.
But now I am cured.

I ask only, for you to accept my confession.

I ask only to be shot, while my mind is still clear
I am Legion, for We are Many
whoopingchow
Profile Joined June 2011
United States293 Posts
August 24 2011 15:50 GMT
#1147
On August 24 2011 23:57 Noradrenaline wrote:
I accuse myself of the following crimes:

Together with other agents, I have counterfeited sexual imagery
Wrecked cyberspace machinery
Polluted the waters of public opinion
Guided eurasian rocket bombs to target lim yo hwan by means of encrypted internet packets

I stand here a victim of the influence of Haeun_Cielu; Guilty on all counts.

I am glad I was caught.. I was mentally deranged.
But now I am cured.

I ask only, for you to accept my confession.

I ask only to be shot, while my mind is still clear


Wait, what? Rocket bombs?
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
August 24 2011 16:12 GMT
#1148
Eve was the champion of the female league, it's not like she was just a random person they found on the street.

Also, for everyone out there, the first amendment stops the government from making laws that limits your freedoms, nowhere does it say you can say anything you want without consequences.
pezit
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden302 Posts
August 24 2011 17:08 GMT
#1149
On August 15 2011 18:29 Immersion_ wrote:
It's a sad reflection on the world that there is even a perceived difference between female and male gamers. Society in general means it is far less likely a female will get involved, clearly once they become involved however, the potential capabilities are the same when it comes to Starcraft 2, and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.

The fact of the matter is, that in some areas, women, or men, are treated worse statistically, so it is natural that they need some protection. An example from European Law where a female and a male of varying experience and skills apply for a job the employer is allowed to adopt a policy of hiring the underrepresented sex in that field on those grounds, this seems to support SlayerS attitude here. In this case, if EVE genuinely has the enthusiasm to compete, then it is very much a reasonable decision.


Men and women differ from each other in more ways than just physicality, now if that difference matters as far as SC2 goes i have idea and i doubt you do either. I do agree that the jargon of the internet community does hurt female gamers though, but sad as it is i doubt we'll ever get rid of it.

And to Jessica i'd like to say great post, but as a pessimistic guy i gotta warn you that fighting against the basement dwellers on the internet is a fight you can't win, they just enjoy the attention and ignoring them would probably be the best response.
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
August 24 2011 17:18 GMT
#1150
Finally the full story on why these pictures were such a big deal...obviously doing what this guy was doing was completely out of hand and reporting them as such to an authority makes plenty of sense. The only criticism I have at all is report them to authorities if they cross the line, but responding to them only feeds them. I think in many of these instances that's where you tend to go wrong wanting to lash back out at the people harassing you. For anyone in the spotlight it'll save you a lot of headache to report the ones who go over the line but ignore them otherwise.

Twitter: @GoForNerski /// Youtube: Youtube.com/nerskisc
AllSalesFinal
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States211 Posts
August 24 2011 17:22 GMT
#1151
I like that you take so much pride in your team and its players, really good to see, good luck in the future, hopefully stuff like this doesn't happen, slayers fighting!
| MMA | Flash | Polt |
Chronald
Profile Joined December 2009
United States619 Posts
August 24 2011 17:25 GMT
#1152
Jessica!!

More power to you! And know that while there are always trolls and assholes on the internet, there are ALWAYS more people in silent agreement with you than outspoken disagreement.

People will always try to stir up shit and make others look bad, but that is because they really just hate themselves and wish that they themselves would just go away.

Do not take the hateful writings of these cyber-losers to heart, know that for every hateful thing said to you, others are saying twice as many nice things about what you have done not only for SlayerS but for BoxeR and SC2 in general.

When I finally make my way out to Korea I'll show you just what I mean!
Got that.
djbhINDI
Profile Joined June 2011
United States372 Posts
September 03 2011 19:23 GMT
#1153
On August 15 2011 11:03 .Aar wrote:
Why the hell is this still even a thing?

Does it really affect you who SlayerS recruits?

Does it really affect you what other people on the internet write? No?

Then why are you even commenting?
You can't emphasize enough how much you need to be a paradigm shifter. - Savior
djbhINDI
Profile Joined June 2011
United States372 Posts
September 03 2011 19:26 GMT
#1154
On August 15 2011 11:48 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 11:28 Dubpace wrote:
On August 15 2011 11:17 The KY wrote:
On August 15 2011 10:49 Dubpace wrote:
On August 15 2011 10:18 The KY wrote:
On August 15 2011 00:26 darklight54321 wrote:
On August 14 2011 14:12 The KY wrote:
People are saying they are angry that Eve was given special treatment because of her gender; what fucking right do you have to be angry? You don't own SlayerS, it's not a fucking democracy. Who the fuck do you think you are?
Count the number of female SC2 pros. Zero, right? With no signs of that changing? Guess what, there are plenty of males who are better than Eve, but SlayerS weren't looking for a player, they were looking for a fucking female player, because they want SC2 to grow and want female gamers to be a part of that so they felt that some affirmative action was neccessary. They picked her for her potential. They didn't pick her over any more skilled male player. Bottom line is, if you don't like it tough shit, you have no bearing on the decisions of the team, it's not there to bend to your will. Your vote isn't counted.



Look, the actual botom line is, if Eve never reaches GM level, or a modestly competitive masters. Slayers will never hear the end of it, and rightly so. If she proves to even be moderately competitive in small tournaments like the kind sixjax loves to play in, then slayers made the right choice.

Until she reaches that level though, the complainers have the right to complain about it because there is nothing besides the "We think we need female gamers so i don't really care if she's that good, she might become good enough that i dont regret this decision" which is what i get from the whole thing. I dont think anyone outright expects her to win and be Code S (though would be awesome if she did become code s) but at least being moderately competitive would be the outcome that would create the most satisfaction.


Even if that was the case, we'd have to wait to see the outcome before judging. But it isn't the case; you haven't given a reason that the complainers have the right to complain even if she was in bronze league. It's not their organisation. They can acquire whatever players they want and no one has the right to complain.


I have the right to say anything that I want to, thank you very much. Who are you to tell me about my freedom of speech?


*rolls eyes* Don't be obtuse, I'm not actually denying anyone their freedom to complain about things that don't concern them, I'm just saying that complaining about things that don't concern you makes you a fucking ass.


No to be honest, I just think that it makes you a bigot for not respecting somebodies right to complain about something they have a different opinion than you about.

This is my last post about the subject, and if you would like to further the conversation please PM me, but telling somebody they have no right to complain about something on an internet forum and then calling them a "fucking ass" for complaining is simply ignorant.


On that note, you're a bigot for not respecting my right to call someone a fucking ass. It's my opinion etc et fucking cetera.

Situation; your neighbour is complaining obnoxiously at you because your car is a colour that displeases him. He won't shut up about it.

Do you a) Nod sagely and tell him that you would never seek to deny his freedom of speech

or

b) Call him a fucking ass and tell him you'll have whatever colour car you damn well please.

This is what I mean when I say people do not have the right; it should be obvious that I'm not actually saying that their opinion is illegal and should be censored.


You do realize that Option B is a manifestation of freedom of speech as well...

ITT: People do not understand Libel or the Bill of Rights at ALL
You can't emphasize enough how much you need to be a paradigm shifter. - Savior
Sorathez
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia209 Posts
October 26 2011 11:12 GMT
#1155
I think SlayerS has done the right thing in recruiting Eve, if not for her ability then at least it could function as a great publicity stunt.
I also think it's no secret that the gaming community is hugely male dominated, and it's refreshing to see female gamers like ToSsGirL and Eve, if only for something different.
There's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep trying till you run out of cake.
worosei
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia198 Posts
October 26 2011 11:19 GMT
#1156
i just want them hurry up and show us some games by her!!

I hope she's training hard though so she'll be able to at least hold her own in the GSL qualifiers, or prepare some snipe builds in the GSTL
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
October 26 2011 12:00 GMT
#1157
Why did you bump this?
Reality_Seeker
Profile Joined July 2012
Bulgaria18 Posts
July 27 2012 01:33 GMT
#1158
Eh u know.. Korean Gold = US Grandmaster and u said she's not gold, but dimond so.. yeah :D.. Can already see her wining some us tournies EZ ^_^. Jokes aside more females need to be brought into e-sports therefor Eve's ok with me ;]

User was temp banned for this post.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 01:38:40
July 27 2012 01:37 GMT
#1159
^Are you fucking kidding me?
Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
July 27 2012 01:39 GMT
#1160
On July 27 2012 10:33 Reality_Seeker wrote:
Eh u know.. Korean Gold = US Grandmaster and u said she's not gold, but dimond so.. yeah :D.. Can already see her wining some us tournies EZ ^_^. Jokes aside more females need to be brought into e-sports therefor Eve's ok with me ;]


Necros done with bad posts are so painful.
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
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