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Whenever you hit post in this thread, think long and hard. Are you showing the proper amount of respect? If that is not the case, do not hit the post button.
Rareware
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada340 Posts
July 21 2011 20:22 GMT
#61
It's good to finally get both sides of the issue. I ask that people be more hesitant in the future over problems like this and wait for both sides of the story.

Thank you Jessica
ROOT Fighting!!!
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
July 21 2011 20:22 GMT
#62
It is a good thing that slayers is pursuing legal action against defamers. I hope the DA will accept your evidence and your arguments.

PS: Also make sure to conclude contracts with your players. I feel the TSL Puma situation is a more grave situation for Korean SC2 teams as a whole then the Slayers Eve incident.
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
July 21 2011 20:22 GMT
#63
"They photoshopped a young female onto a pornography actress.

They humiliated her.

They wrote profanities and sexist remarks non-stop...

There are things that they are doing that you couldn't even imagine."

WTF?!?!!? THEY DID THAT?!?!!

Okay now I'm mad too. >:[
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
July 21 2011 20:22 GMT
#64

On July 22 2011 05:12 Postman wrote:
Bloodless murder? Why are you being so dramatic? What these people are doing is wrong, but it's certainly not akin to murder of any kind.

I hope that this gets settled and the flaming stops, almost everyone on TL supports SlayerS and every member of it.


do you pay attention to anything?

Korean pop stars are known to suicide because of these kinds of people, thus it is technically driving someone...to die. (and they know it)
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Sega92
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States467 Posts
July 21 2011 20:22 GMT
#65
Slayers fighting!

I don't know about everyone else, but I for one am really excited to see how she does. I have the utmost confidence that eve will wreck some nerd faces just like the rest of the SlayerS !!

행운을 빌어요!!
we are ALL hoping the best for you and the team!
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
July 21 2011 20:22 GMT
#66
SlayerS_Jessica... TL's second female proposter??? I kid, but this should be a warning to all those retarded trolls on chat or on the forums criticizing people without knowing the full story.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
July 21 2011 20:22 GMT
#67
I'm happy you came on here to talk about it and clear up any inconsistencies or mistakes! Your English is actually really good, if anyone ever said you're bad at it they don't know what they're talking about. I totally understood everything you wrote and the emotions behind it. Of course I could tell a non-native speaker was typing, but there are plenty of native English speakers that can't make their English make half as much sense as your own.

Someone came into the initial thread and explained how intensive and unrelenting insults over the Internet have caused great depression and even suicide over in Korea. Others came in and quoted someone, though I'm not sure who it is now, from their Twitter that tried to explain you were only going after those who were specifically targeting Slayers_Eve sexually. You know, with the pornographic photoshops and stuff. I'm glad you repeated everything here though. Maybe people will actually believe it or understand it when you say it.

Though there was one point in your post that I was sad about. It said something like "I was hurt that even those on TL jumped to conclusions without knowing the whole story." That happens all the time in the foreigner scene. People grab a hold of a news story and without looking at sources or even waiting for a second side of the story they lash out and insult or judge those involved. It's just how it goes here. Then, when they hear the other side of the story, they usually see everything more clearly.

So don't take everything in that thread that might have said you were overreacting personally. Now that everyone has your side, there should be more reasoned responses. My suggestion for everyone that has a news worthy story in the internet scene, not just you or Slayers the team, is to just ignore what is being said in the threads until your story is out there for people to see. Because the initial responses will never be relevant to the issue when they don't have the second half of the information, your information, to take in.

Good luck with those cases, Slayers_Jessica! Good luck Slayers_Eve and the rest of the team in their games!
audist
Profile Joined October 2010
United States136 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 20:23:53
July 21 2011 20:23 GMT
#68
On July 22 2011 05:12 Postman wrote:
Bloodless murder? Why are you being so dramatic? What these people are doing is wrong, but it's certainly not akin to murder of any kind.

I hope that this gets settled and the flaming stops, almost everyone on TL supports SlayerS and every member of it.


She's not being overtly dramatic. Jessica is speaking from personal experience.

EDIT: SlayerS, you will always have my support!
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
July 21 2011 20:23 GMT
#69
I 100% agree and support your decision, Jessica. Public figures need protection, especially public pro-gaming figures, as their direct public are those who shape the next trends in the cyber-culture.

Anyways, always keep in mind : The loudest ones are also often the dumbest.
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
July 21 2011 20:23 GMT
#70
On July 22 2011 05:20 ProxyKnoxy wrote:
Can't believe people from TL sent her messages... makes me embarrassed and ashamed tbh.


what? the TL messages were encouragement for BoxeR to ignore the haters and keep playing SC2.

i think you jumped to conclusions when you read the part about foreigners leaving nasty messages through twitter and assuming it was the TL community, because she did not mention TL when she said that part.
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
July 21 2011 20:23 GMT
#71
I for one support SlayerS and highly support the decision to bring on a female gamer who is seen to have potential. I disagree with one thing though, I do not want her to be built up just for entertainment, I want her to be built to be a code S level player, just like anyone else. Make her as good as possible.
Kh0nsu
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom183 Posts
July 21 2011 20:23 GMT
#72
Good luck in prosecuting people that think the internet should be free from law and consequence. Just remember that you and everyone in Slayers are contributing to E-Sports and the growth of SC2 and the actual SC2 fans will always support your side.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 20:25:04
July 21 2011 20:23 GMT
#73
Ignoring all of the twitter drama, which is dumb and sad and shouldn't happen.


I was really happy and supportive of this Eve player making Slayers, but now knowing that she's only in Diamond league, I'm not so sure I am anymore.

I know there are Masters levels female players. We've been having all female tournaments in the foreign scene for a while. If you wanted to recruit a female player, why not recruit one of the ones who has already demonstrated that they're playing at that level and done all that work?

I don't know all the ins and outs of how dedicated people are and how much potential they have and etc, and I'm sure Eve will do better than the expectations of most, and more power to her. But this entire thing is starting to reak of a PR campaign to me, and one that is not getting the sort of PR that it thought it would. And recruiting a female player for PR is not advancing women in Starcraft as much as it is closet sexism.

I dunno. Maybe I am reading into this too much. But this entire ordeal seems dumb to me, and I wish it would stop being such a gigantic thing, for the sake of everybody.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
July 21 2011 20:24 GMT
#74
Its a shame its come this far, it really is. But being in the spotlight, does it not mean you are subject to criticizing? While yes what you are doing is just, as some of the things I've seen sent are disgusting and nasty, but does that really mean anyone that criticizes how SlayerS is being run should be labeled as evidence for authority?

In regards to Eve, people seem to be quick to forget that you dont get a free pass into SlayerS and everyone thats in has earned their keep. While I have not seen Eve play, I am certain you saw something worthwhile in her. That said, I expect one month training with boxer would be plenty for her to be in masters. Four months training with the team and she'll be in GM
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
Weaklink123
Profile Joined April 2011
United States159 Posts
July 21 2011 20:24 GMT
#75
I agree with the choice that slayers and yourself have made in having eve join the team. Thank you for explaining your reasoning and please keep TL updated on how eve does.
mYinsanityCoach 우정호 (KT Violet) - 1988 - 2012.
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
July 21 2011 20:24 GMT
#76
Some people are such assholes wow i feel so bad for eve...

I 100% agree and support what you are doing Jessica, good luck.
GertHeart
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States631 Posts
July 21 2011 20:24 GMT
#77
It was a great read. You have my respect for giving your opinion. Korea Fighting!
He who conquers the past rules the future, He who conquers the future rules the past. - C&C Red Alert
FreezerJumps
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada653 Posts
July 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#78
I don't support Eve, because she doesn't deserve what she's been given. I don't support Jessica, because she's given an opportunity to someone far less deserving than the masters and gransmasters players who have done far more to earn a contract.

But I also don't support the people who are saying anything worse than what I just said, nor do I support any of the supposed hatred and pictures which I haven't seen.
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
July 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#79
On July 22 2011 05:22 Vequeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 05:13 b_unnies wrote:
I'm afraid to voice my opinions on this matter as I don't want to be arrested


Censorship offends me.

this is no censorship. censorship is when a government blocks expression. this is a situation where expression already happened and the expression in itself is a crime as it is defamation.

you want freedom ? then you have to respect the rights of other people as well and words can be just as harmful as any other actions.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
July 21 2011 20:25 GMT
#80
On July 22 2011 05:23 Kh0nsu wrote:
Good luck in prosecuting people that think the internet should be free from law and consequence.

Koreans + their SSID is needed to post anything on the internet.

also korean laws.
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
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