EPTPuma leaves TSL for EG - Page 183
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GinDo
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MDMA_
Canada265 Posts
On July 22 2011 02:00 LovE-z33k wrote: Yeah because you are generalizing that koreans will stop sending players now. I'll be sure to ask MC about this when I see him at the next NASL Finals for you. how is this a stupid point? if more of this free agent signings do happen what incentives do korean teams have to send their own players over just to be signed after a good showing? | ||
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vpatrickd
Indonesia279 Posts
Because it feels like poaching in business terms, only that the poached person told his manager that he is being poached, whereas in real life he's supposed to just quit and kept his mouth quiet. But nevertheless, EG should have contacted their manager, before or after they talked to Puma. That's how business practices are done in Asia. | ||
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
On July 22 2011 02:01 Walls wrote: No but as this will happen more and more often, my point could be true. Koreans have a history of being on their own and still being the best. "My point could be true" Stop generalizing. | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:10 Fionn wrote: Wow, if this is true, I lose all respect for EG. This really could kill Korean teams sending players to North American/European events. If they stole or pried away Puma while he was at NASL and Puma was under contract at the time, that's really, really disappointing. This will discourage teams from sending players to events in fear of international teams trying to steal players away. If TSL is lying or this isn't true, then I take it back, but this could really damage what has been a really good partnership between the international tournaments and Korean teams. I couldn't agree more with this post. It's a damn shame this wasn't handled professionally. | ||
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On July 22 2011 02:03 GinDo wrote: TSL's fault for not signing their players with contracts. But really hows Puma gonna practice? Korean copy of SC2 or practice with EG or Europe ladder or he might stay in GSL as a player for EG who knows. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On July 22 2011 01:56 Leafren wrote: The difference is that SC is (aspires to be) a sport. You don't negociate with a player from another team behind the coaches/management's back. Surely you see the issue with that? You realize that in sports the teams talk to the player's agent right? The agent represents the player not the team or the coach. If TSL was properly contracted then this would have been prohibited but we have reason to believe that there is no contract to begin with. | ||
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elementz
United States281 Posts
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jiveturkey
United States18 Posts
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BadLuckHeeb
United States6 Posts
In my opinion, Puma did the right thing. He abandoned a sinking ship. Artosis, Idra and Tyler have all stated that the kid was a heady player with e-stro. Maybe he couldnt make it through the cheese-fest that is the open tournament to get into codeA/codeS. Doesn't make the kid a bad player nor does it mean he owes TSL EVERYTHING for where he is. If he was a good player before odds were he was gonna be a good player now. Last time I checked, the player always has the option to do whats best for him. In any sport the agent looking out for his client generally tells the player of offers before telling the other teams... there are some situations where this is not the case like a baseball player being traded.... but for the most part its correct. If you wanna be mad about anything be mad that the sport hasnt evolved to the point where players need agents. The way things are set up now, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the way this came out for all parties considered. Be mad at the system. You want KeSPA back? Really?! GG to anyone making a business decision ever again in the KR scene then... Look people try to get ahead by underhanded means every day. EG didnt do anything underhanded. Underhanded would be like "hey Puma... wanna join EG? You make more money..." and Puma says "Hell yes" and then no one tells TSL. Thats underhanded... The fact is that he told TSL... the people that needed to know were told. You lost guys... tough shit... Maybe if you were in a better situation you'd have the money to keep these "practice players" that you pay almost nothing... | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On July 22 2011 02:00 LovE-z33k wrote: Yeah because you are generalizing that koreans will stop sending players now. I'll be sure to ask MC about this when I see him at the next NASL Finals for you. MC goes in the name of SK gaming now. SK sends them for international events, that's already the deal. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On July 22 2011 01:54 ploy wrote: Seriously wtf jobs do you work? It is not that way in the west.. AT ALL. Everyone who thinks it is must seriously be 14 and jobless or... I honestly don't know. In Western sports if you want to sign a player you approach the team first. | ||
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SaYyId
Portugal277 Posts
 Anyway, I don't understand what's wrong with it. They bought(?) a player and that's it. What's the fucking problem? | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On July 22 2011 02:03 MDMA_ wrote: how is this a stupid point? if more of this free agent signings do happen what incentives do korean teams have to send their own players over just to be signed after a good showing? cause contacting the player at a foreign event is the only way to contact a player........ oh wait | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On July 22 2011 02:01 Walls wrote: No but as this will happen more and more often, my point could be true. Koreans have a history of being on their own and still being the best. What?? How do they have a history of being on their own? The reason koreans didn't come out for BW was because there were no major international tournaments for BW. In WC3 players like Moon joined foreign teams like MYM. Koreans don't have a history of being on their own, korea has a history of being the only place to actually compete in BW. | ||
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CellTech
Canada396 Posts
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MDMA_
Canada265 Posts
On July 22 2011 02:04 lunchforthesky wrote: In Western sports if you want to sign a player you approach the team first. not necessarily depends on what situation the player is in. if u wanna sign the player u approach the player if you want to approach a team you TRADE for the player. you cant approach a player under contract | ||
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kawaiiryuko
United States368 Posts
and we'll have a | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On July 22 2011 02:03 GinDo wrote: TSL's fault for not signing their players with contracts. But really hows Puma gonna practice? They were under contract... | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On July 22 2011 02:04 lunchforthesky wrote: In Western sports if you want to sign a player you approach the team first. who cares about western sport, sc2 is not a western "sport", it doesnt have its own rules, stop trying to apply MLB/NHL/NBA/NFL rules to sc2, cause its not the same thing | ||
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