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Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
July 21 2011 19:06 GMT
#1401
If you're going to be well known, best get ready to deal with this sort of stuff. While it's certainly rude and uncalled for, it is a burden that must be shouldered by anyone with some sort of notoriety.

My sympathies to Slayers_Jessica, but you gotta learn to roll with the punches.
Entusman #54 (-_-) ||"Gold is for the Mistress-Silver for the Maid-Copper for the craftsman cunning in his trade. "Good!" said the Baron, sitting in his hall, But Iron — Cold Iron — is master of them all|| "Optimism is Cowardice."- Oswald Spengler
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
July 21 2011 19:09 GMT
#1402
On July 22 2011 04:01 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 03:55 Blasterion wrote:
On July 22 2011 03:13 ranshaked wrote:
On July 21 2011 14:10 kineSiS- wrote:
Since I am Korean, I can say that respect and honor is one of the most important aspects of Korean culture.

I find it funny that koreans have respect and honor, yet they treat their own like trash.

I find it funny that Americans suppose to be fighter for equality yet treats everyone else like trash


Can we not get into this culture battle? Every ethnicity is unique and honestly, if the Koreans do this that way, then it really is up to them. But everyone should be held accountable for their words or actions.

Then I ask kindly for those posters not look like everything should be done in their way or their way is any better than the ways other people do things
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Alexstrasas
Profile Joined August 2010
302 Posts
July 21 2011 19:13 GMT
#1403
On July 21 2011 15:18 ToD wrote:
". In Korea, it is possible to take someone to the police for what they had said in the Internet"

you're saying i dodged hundreds of lawsuits when i stayed in Korea ?


shhhh poker face man, poker face....
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 21 2011 19:15 GMT
#1404
On July 22 2011 04:09 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 04:01 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On July 22 2011 03:55 Blasterion wrote:
On July 22 2011 03:13 ranshaked wrote:
On July 21 2011 14:10 kineSiS- wrote:
Since I am Korean, I can say that respect and honor is one of the most important aspects of Korean culture.

I find it funny that koreans have respect and honor, yet they treat their own like trash.

I find it funny that Americans suppose to be fighter for equality yet treats everyone else like trash


Can we not get into this culture battle? Every ethnicity is unique and honestly, if the Koreans do this that way, then it really is up to them. But everyone should be held accountable for their words or actions.

Then I ask kindly for those posters not look like everything should be done in their way or their way is any better than the ways other people do things


Obviously people are going to speak from their cultural perspective, I think it's kind of silly as well because she's in the lime-light and dealing with standard trolls, there's no big controversy or scandal unless Jessica turns it into one.

You suggesting that what they're doing is right is just the same as someone suggesting it's wrong based on their cultural perspective.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
July 21 2011 19:19 GMT
#1405
On July 22 2011 04:09 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 04:01 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On July 22 2011 03:55 Blasterion wrote:
On July 22 2011 03:13 ranshaked wrote:
On July 21 2011 14:10 kineSiS- wrote:
Since I am Korean, I can say that respect and honor is one of the most important aspects of Korean culture.

I find it funny that koreans have respect and honor, yet they treat their own like trash.

I find it funny that Americans suppose to be fighter for equality yet treats everyone else like trash


Can we not get into this culture battle? Every ethnicity is unique and honestly, if the Koreans do this that way, then it really is up to them. But everyone should be held accountable for their words or actions.

Then I ask kindly for those posters not look like everything should be done in their way or their way is any better than the ways other people do things

lol you're kidding me right? Chinese are some of the most racist people I've ever met. I've worked in a Chinese restaurant for 6 years. I've never seen a culture hate on others more in my entire life. For you to even speak of "culture"
furerkip
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States439 Posts
July 21 2011 19:24 GMT
#1406
I think Jessica is correct in her thoughts, based on what everyone saying what the Korea culture is like. I mean, there's a huge difference in comparing her to Justin Bieber: JB has fans for his singing. Whereas here, Eve doesn't have fans for what she plays, she has fans for the fact she's cute. I mean, if you look at Tablo, it seems like everyone except for a few were against him. In my opinion, it would be fair to compare this to someone in the US that everyone hates (for his profession, terrorism doesn't count). The guy would commit suicide, there's no one that's even trying to uplift him. Everyone just keeps putting him down.

For example, let's say everyone tells you, "you're useless." What other way are you gonna think, unless someone tells you, "thanks for your help, we needed it!" or something positive like that. Pride exists in every human being unless you don't mind being trash. Seriously, everyone listens to public opinion. It's just you can ignore it if people support you/ it only stays on the internet. It seems in Korea, it goes beyond the internet into real life. Jessica is correct in her thoughts, is what I'm saying.
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 19:24:50
July 21 2011 19:24 GMT
#1407
This is even bigger than the teamliquid strategy forum purge, They are actually purging trolls in real life!

Edit: I feel kind of bad for SlayerS_Jessica having to deal with this kind of stuff.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
July 21 2011 19:27 GMT
#1408
On July 22 2011 04:19 ranshaked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 04:09 Blasterion wrote:
On July 22 2011 04:01 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On July 22 2011 03:55 Blasterion wrote:
On July 22 2011 03:13 ranshaked wrote:
On July 21 2011 14:10 kineSiS- wrote:
Since I am Korean, I can say that respect and honor is one of the most important aspects of Korean culture.

I find it funny that koreans have respect and honor, yet they treat their own like trash.

I find it funny that Americans suppose to be fighter for equality yet treats everyone else like trash


Can we not get into this culture battle? Every ethnicity is unique and honestly, if the Koreans do this that way, then it really is up to them. But everyone should be held accountable for their words or actions.

Then I ask kindly for those posters not look like everything should be done in their way or their way is any better than the ways other people do things

lol you're kidding me right? Chinese are some of the most racist people I've ever met. I've worked in a Chinese restaurant for 6 years. I've never seen a culture hate on others more in my entire life. For you to even speak of "culture"


I think it's okay for you to let this drop, Ranshaked, for a number of reasons.
1) just because The Blastmeister is in China doesn't mean he's Chinese
2) just because some people in a chinese restaurant were hateful doesn't mean that everyone is
3) drawing this sort of generalization is mean, unfair, and beside the point.

It's important to have respect for all people's culture, while at the same time understanding that even within a culture there can be a broad vareity of personalities and outlooks. Heck, look at American culture across the various states, or even between social groups (like "hipsters" or "punks" or "old people") and you'll find a remarkably diverse set of cultures and personalities.

I would not be surprised to find this the case everywhere.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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navy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada197 Posts
July 21 2011 19:28 GMT
#1409
OH MY GOD

ONE MEMBER OR SOME MEMBERS OF A CULTURAL GROUP I HAVE COME IN CONTACT WITH ACT A CERTAIN WAY, HENCE THEY ALL MUST? RIGHT? RIGHT GUYS?



on topic, I think she really made this into an issue by her acknowledgement of it.

Raid
Profile Joined September 2010
United States398 Posts
July 21 2011 20:01 GMT
#1410
Boxer needs to put his woman on check. The internet is full of trolls and she just needs to ignore it all together.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
July 21 2011 20:06 GMT
#1411
On July 22 2011 04:19 ranshaked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 04:09 Blasterion wrote:
On July 22 2011 04:01 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On July 22 2011 03:55 Blasterion wrote:
On July 22 2011 03:13 ranshaked wrote:
On July 21 2011 14:10 kineSiS- wrote:
Since I am Korean, I can say that respect and honor is one of the most important aspects of Korean culture.

I find it funny that koreans have respect and honor, yet they treat their own like trash.

I find it funny that Americans suppose to be fighter for equality yet treats everyone else like trash


Can we not get into this culture battle? Every ethnicity is unique and honestly, if the Koreans do this that way, then it really is up to them. But everyone should be held accountable for their words or actions.

Then I ask kindly for those posters not look like everything should be done in their way or their way is any better than the ways other people do things

lol you're kidding me right? Chinese are some of the most racist people I've ever met. I've worked in a Chinese restaurant for 6 years. I've never seen a culture hate on others more in my entire life. For you to even speak of "culture"


Amusing. So he lists himself as in China, therefore his word and opinion are worthless. Because Chinese people are some of the most racist people that you ever met.

Dear god, you know what? I've met tons of racist people from all different races. Everyone's opinion must mean shit.

Or maybe generalization is bad. Yeah, I think that's it.
Yargh
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
July 21 2011 20:07 GMT
#1412
On July 22 2011 05:01 Raid wrote:
Boxer needs to put his woman on check. The internet is full of trolls and she just needs to ignore it all together.


Boxer need to give this woman less power. She can't handle it.
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
July 21 2011 20:14 GMT
#1413
On July 22 2011 04:19 ranshaked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 04:09 Blasterion wrote:
On July 22 2011 04:01 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On July 22 2011 03:55 Blasterion wrote:
On July 22 2011 03:13 ranshaked wrote:
On July 21 2011 14:10 kineSiS- wrote:
Since I am Korean, I can say that respect and honor is one of the most important aspects of Korean culture.

I find it funny that koreans have respect and honor, yet they treat their own like trash.

I find it funny that Americans suppose to be fighter for equality yet treats everyone else like trash


Can we not get into this culture battle? Every ethnicity is unique and honestly, if the Koreans do this that way, then it really is up to them. But everyone should be held accountable for their words or actions.

Then I ask kindly for those posters not look like everything should be done in their way or their way is any better than the ways other people do things

lol you're kidding me right? Chinese are some of the most racist people I've ever met. I've worked in a Chinese restaurant for 6 years. I've never seen a culture hate on others more in my entire life. For you to even speak of "culture"


I have been involved in a number of Chinese restaurant business for 17 years now.

This guy is either lying or he simply spend his whole 6 years in the same place and think everyone in the world must be the same. If fact, if you work as a waiter(I assume you are) for 6 long years, you will know that most of the time, the waiter is the subject to racist taunts.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
July 21 2011 21:10 GMT
#1414
On July 22 2011 04:19 ranshaked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 04:09 Blasterion wrote:
On July 22 2011 04:01 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On July 22 2011 03:55 Blasterion wrote:
On July 22 2011 03:13 ranshaked wrote:
On July 21 2011 14:10 kineSiS- wrote:
Since I am Korean, I can say that respect and honor is one of the most important aspects of Korean culture.

I find it funny that koreans have respect and honor, yet they treat their own like trash.

I find it funny that Americans suppose to be fighter for equality yet treats everyone else like trash


Can we not get into this culture battle? Every ethnicity is unique and honestly, if the Koreans do this that way, then it really is up to them. But everyone should be held accountable for their words or actions.

Then I ask kindly for those posters not look like everything should be done in their way or their way is any better than the ways other people do things

lol you're kidding me right? Chinese are some of the most racist people I've ever met. I've worked in a Chinese restaurant for 6 years. I've never seen a culture hate on others more in my entire life. For you to even speak of "culture"

Is it not racist to call another race racist?
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
July 21 2011 21:12 GMT
#1415
On July 22 2011 05:07 mmdmmd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 05:01 Raid wrote:
Boxer needs to put his woman on check. The internet is full of trolls and she just needs to ignore it all together.


Boxer need to give this woman less power. She can't handle it.

1. the owner of slayers is kim gayeon.
2. she has no power in the criminal procedure anyways. all she can do is provide evidence and that she would be able to do even if she wasnt part of slayers
Zombie_Velociraptor
Profile Joined May 2011
274 Posts
July 21 2011 22:00 GMT
#1416
To be honest, while this whole thing makes SlayerS_Jessica look a bit silly, what with the whole tolerance to trolling we have nowadays and such, I would be oh so delighted to live in a world where excessive flaming ends up in fine tickets or something.

The acceptance to utterly atrocious behaviour 'just because its online' we have nowadays is really stupid, and personally I think it's slowly making its way into real life as well, which is even more disgusting.
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
July 21 2011 22:44 GMT
#1417
On July 21 2011 07:16 WhiteDog wrote:
I understand Jessica in some way. You can react emotionally when you face such hard words, even on the internet. But a few hours later, you got to keep cool, realise that all this shit is nothing more than talks in the air, and keep everything in check.
It seems like, in this situation, Jessica is blowing everything out of proportion, and it's starting to become ridiculous.


I for one, never saw anything wrong with the criticism except for the obvious "She isnt good enough/ we dont know enough" that was bound to come. I cant fully understand the twitter thing but it does not seem that harsh (to me). As for the photoshops that was really unnecessary.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
July 21 2011 22:49 GMT
#1418
Think the point she is trying to make is they are not just trolling, they are going above and beyond. And the problem is more widespread in Korea than we see in the USA. But it has happened and there is no easy way to make it stop before the person kills themselves. Only thing being done is some laws being put in motion to make penalties for bullying/cyberbully a lot harsher. The reason people act like this is because the cloak anonymity of the internet.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 21 2011 22:49 GMT
#1419
On July 22 2011 05:07 mmdmmd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 05:01 Raid wrote:
Boxer needs to put his woman on check. The internet is full of trolls and she just needs to ignore it all together.


Boxer need to give this woman less power. She can't handle it.


I would guess that boxer cannot really order her around, nor does he want to, because she is about 10 years his senior. also, she is kinda like a power woman. watch boxer's wings...from there you can see that Gayeon noona takes care of Boxer in nearly everyway (shopping for clothes, cooking for him, getting him sponsors, getting him a practice house, setting up his team, etc.). Thus, she has shown Boxer much success in SC2 and he trusts her. I do to.

but you can be sure that boxer probably told her not to worry so much, also the kids probably told her too. No one wants gayeon to go through all this crap, but it is her nature to be fiercely protective and controlling of the people she cares about.


just imo.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
July 21 2011 22:57 GMT
#1420
On July 22 2011 07:49 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 05:07 mmdmmd wrote:
On July 22 2011 05:01 Raid wrote:
Boxer needs to put his woman on check. The internet is full of trolls and she just needs to ignore it all together.


Boxer need to give this woman less power. She can't handle it.


I would guess that boxer cannot really order her around, nor does he want to, because she is about 10 years his senior. also, she is kinda like a power woman. watch boxer's wings...from there you can see that Gayeon noona takes care of Boxer in nearly everyway (shopping for clothes, cooking for him, getting him sponsors, getting him a practice house, setting up his team, etc.). Thus, she has shown Boxer much success in SC2 and he trusts her. I do to.

but you can be sure that boxer probably told her not to worry so much, also the kids probably told her too. No one wants gayeon to go through all this crap, but it is her nature to be fiercely protective and controlling of the people she cares about.


just imo.

I knew Gayeon noona was older than BoxeR but didn't know she was that much older. But yeah faith in SlayerSJessica, She's been the SlayerS powerhouse for a long time, so I believe in her
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