Slayers_eve is only in gold league? is thats the case she really has no place on the team... all the hate is of course unwarranted but they do have a point

Garnet

Vietnam9049 Posts

July 19 2011 09:18 GMT

#184

This just put more stress on Eve. I hope she ignore the trolls and focus on practicing.
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LEAVE EVE ALONE

Haze.884

New Zealand192 Posts

July 19 2011 09:18 GMT

#185

On July 19 2011 18:07 (Max 20 chars) wrote:

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1) Your understanding of the internets is highly disturbing.
It's a technology for communication. It's a tools for us. Why should things done just with this tool not be a matter for the police?
It's like asking if matters with scissors or matters with toilet paper are a wise things to take to the police. It's about the matter and not the tool.
If there is something illegal done, it's always a wise thing to go to the police. Not just in Korea.

Besides, it also seems you don't understand the technical part of the internets, as you're mentioning the myth of anonymity behind doors. That's just so wrong. Every step you make is registered by your IP which is linked to your phone account. Often times it's even registered by image maps what you are (possibly) looking on right now on your screen. Using the internets is pretty much the opposite of anonymity. You are always in the spotlight

2) If her reaction is appropriate or not depends on the actual cases. In detail. With exact translation and complete log. As we are not provided with that information it's pretty much impossible to rate if she's over reacting or not.

Funny, because you really haven't understood what I have said. I wrote 'who thinks they can hide behind doors of anonymity'. I am certain it implies that its those trolls who think anonymity exists in the internet. Not me. I know I can be traced down.

Internet is different from everyday conversation. It is a place where people will say things that they will never say because they believe in anonymity. While anonymity has its downsides, it does grant true freedom of speech.

Thats why it matters.

P.S. Please take some time and read one's comment throughly before you suggest A person has 'disturbing' understanding of something. You could have worded it nicer

MrCon

France29748 Posts

July 19 2011 09:20 GMT

#186

On July 19 2011 18:13 HolyArrow wrote:
Jessica comes off as extremely strong-willed and very protective of those she cares about, so it's not really that surprising. Perhaps it's naive for her to be taking dumb internet crap so seriously, but I can understand where she's coming from, given her personality. It doesn't affect my view or respect for her and SlayerS. Before people laugh at her for overreacting, everyone should remember everything that she's done to make SlayerS what it is. She's a person worthy of respect, even if she takes the things she cares about really seriously and is more thin-skinned than suitable for someone in her position of seeing all sorts of dumb criticism and feedback that trolls make on the internet.

I kinda agree, but as I see all the messages she posts on twitter, I'm pretty sure she's losing a LOT of time with all this. I'm sure all this crap is affecting the slayers house, I'm also sure she has a lot less time to do her job now when she sends 10+ "I answer random internet crap" twitters a day (because she has to find the crap to answer to before).
All slayers' players are in a giant slump for since the ST final, and I'm not sure she's helping.

m0nkey_man

New Zealand20 Posts

July 19 2011 09:20 GMT

#187

Seems like a huge over reaction, but if its within her rights in the law why not?, Id like to see how they prove that it was that specific person on that specific account (or dont they have those fancy like id's that are tied to them when they do anything online?)
As for the photo someone shopped (badly) im pretty sure that constitutes fair use, im a firm believer that if theres a photo of you on the internet, its fair game for anything.

but yeah as i said, if its within her rights in the law why not, mad troll people back into shitting themselves (or anyone thats said a bad comment against her) you could be arrested!

HornyHerring

Papua New Guinea1059 Posts

July 19 2011 09:21 GMT

#188

One troll at a time!

sodapop

Sweden189 Posts

July 19 2011 09:23 GMT

#189

Hey, that's awesome. :-)

setzer

United States3284 Posts

July 19 2011 09:23 GMT

#190

Does she believe she is immune to criticism? People who are always in public positions are more prone to criticism and harassment, that is just the nature of things. With social media like twitter and facebook everyone now believes their opinion on these subjects should be heard.

I believe Jessica is in the wrong here. Going after ever naysayer and troll is a complete waste of time she could otherwise be using to improve the team. If she strongly believes her decision to bring Eve on the team was the right one then she should let the results speak for themselves later. She shouldn't have to defend her decision to every random Internet troll. That said, it wasn't the smartest idea to invite an amateur gold level player and say she was invited because of her looks.

With the information given I find her behavior disturbing. Attacking people over expressing their freedom to form an opinion is harassment. To me, she comes off as someone who thinks of herself as being better than others.

Haze.884

New Zealand192 Posts

July 19 2011 09:24 GMT

#191

Poll: Should I translate more specific details?

Yes (49)

78%

Go play more sc2 (13)

21%

No (1)

2%

63 total votes

Your vote: Should I translate more specific details?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Go play more sc2

There are posts and a news article that sheds more light into this matter.

Should I translate it? or is this enough trouble?

HolyArrow

United States7116 Posts

July 19 2011 09:25 GMT

#192

On July 19 2011 18:20 MrCon wrote:

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That does indeed worry me. It would be a shame if it actually negatively affected the SlayerS house...

EvilSky

Czech Republic548 Posts

July 19 2011 09:27 GMT

#193

I think reporting them to the cyber police is a bit too much, consequences might never be the same.

Haydin

United States1481 Posts

July 19 2011 09:27 GMT

#194

I think she's overreacting a little bit, but for the people actually making really aggressive, rude, and completely uncalled for attacks, I do hope she goes after them. People who are just trying to humiliate, slander, and harass people on the internet should be held accountable for their actions.

DigitalisDestructi

United States488 Posts

July 19 2011 09:28 GMT

#195

Perspectives, people. You would think that defamation wouldn't be taken seriously, but it's actually considered a crime against personal rights. Living by common sense is nice and all, but it lacks clearly defined parameters. That's where laws come in. There bounds to be some loopholes here and there, of course, but at least it's something...

EDIT: I also believe BoxeR needs to talk to Jessica about this, if he hasn't already. Only the vilest of the insults should be taken to the law. No reason to impede fair criticism.

sylverfyre

United States8298 Posts

July 19 2011 09:30 GMT

#196

On July 19 2011 16:54 namedplayer wrote:
um.. overreacting..? there were some composite photographs made by DCinside. they cut Eve,Jessica's face and pasted it to naked AV actor.

Yeah... I find it hard to say she's overreacting when you look at the disgusting mess that started it. Okay, so others who aren't nearly as offensive are getting caught in the crossfire because they're sticking their fingers into it - not something I'd exactly call a good idea.

HaXXspetten

Sweden15718 Posts

July 19 2011 09:32 GMT

#197

Well, obviously she reacted very strongly, but then again, so did the trolls. She had good reason. What's done is done...

emc

United States3088 Posts

July 19 2011 09:32 GMT

#198

isn't it funny? you make fun of a male and nothing happens and you make fun of a girl who has a friend with authority and suddenly you're screwed...

Logros

Netherlands9913 Posts

July 19 2011 09:33 GMT

#199

What she is doing is only going to make this worse. If you're a bit famous (especially on the internets) there's gonna be people talking crap. The best thing to do is just ignore it.

Jakkerr

Netherlands2549 Posts

July 19 2011 09:33 GMT

#200

Lol congratulations to team Slayers and Jessica.
This is the most stupid thing I've read this week.
Sure there has been some criticism but almost all off it was constructive because she doesn't seem to be that good.
If Slayers responds like this on the few troll posts that were there I really feel sorry for them T_T