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blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
July 19 2011 09:46 GMT
#221
I'm cool with it, the internet would be a much better place if all the 14 year old 4chan kids would realize that their actions have consequences even if they happen online.
videogames
Profile Joined May 2011
United States103 Posts
July 19 2011 09:46 GMT
#222
On July 19 2011 18:44 KeksX wrote:
Well I think when she goes to the cops it's their job to judge whether she is overeacting or not, not ours. Right?

I'm not going to have any opinion on this as I'm not even nearly related to that. And that is what some people here should do, too.

You're right, people shouldn't have their own opinions.
Ignorance is strength.
>
bounca
Profile Joined June 2011
140 Posts
July 19 2011 09:46 GMT
#223
she obv seems like a good person, with good intentions
but if there's nothing in the comments that threatens slayer eves safety it's overreacting
from what i saw it seems like just perverted things said over the internet, that people should be used to by now
Dubpace
Profile Joined August 2010
United States251 Posts
July 19 2011 09:47 GMT
#224
This whole situation reminds me a lot of how NASL consistently would defend themselves publicly/on the forums/on the internet.

It's unprofessional. You have to be able to shake off the haters, flamers, whiners and complainers without peeping a single word to maintain your professional integrity.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
July 19 2011 09:47 GMT
#225
This is just ridiculous. Imagine if the FBI tried to prosecute everyone who posted photoshopped images of President Bush acting like a mokey on the Internet.

Kim Ga Yeon saw "potential" in a gold level player and recruited her partly for her "looks." And she's surprised by this reaction? The Internet is an instrument of blunt will, and people need to understand that.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
stilez
Profile Joined November 2010
Mexico130 Posts
July 19 2011 09:47 GMT
#226
rofl gold league :d
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
July 19 2011 09:47 GMT
#227
Definite over reaction this is going to make things for her MUCH MUCH worse. Just try think what would have happened if kellymilkies tried to take people to the police for the shit she got. The only thing that would happen is she would have become even more hated. Instead she did the mature thing and just ignored it and the shitstorm blew over I haven't heard anyone complain about her in ages. Those who hated her don't care anymore and simply avoid her casts while she still has some fans.

You can't expect the police to lock people up for expressing their opinion.
ChowChillaCharlie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden677 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#228
On July 19 2011 18:46 blackone wrote:
I'm cool with it, the internet would be a much better place if all the 14 year old 4chan kids would realize that their actions have consequences even if they happen online.

^Pretty much my take on the matter as well.
hausmeister
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#229
to me it seems that jessica ist just a crybaby overreacting cause of her compromised ego. pretty darn pathetic. report me to police, they will laugh their asses off.
MetalLobster
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada532 Posts
July 19 2011 09:48 GMT
#230
I support what Jessica is doing here, but I think she should only put attention to where she was actually harassed or given some sort of death threat.

Things like "this player is bad" or "he sucks" is so common it is best left ignored.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
July 19 2011 09:49 GMT
#231
On July 19 2011 18:46 blackone wrote:
I'm cool with it, the internet would be a much better place if all the 14 year old 4chan kids would realize that their actions have consequences even if they happen online.


First that happens, then the police will prosecute people who express opinions they disagree with online. You're walking a very thin line with censorship here.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Endure
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 09:50:19
July 19 2011 09:49 GMT
#232
no matter what happens with the abusive comments you can't let emotions play a part in decisions like that when you're (i guess head of the teams PR?), when you start blowing up at fans saying the littlest thing "Haeun_Cielu said on his twitter, ‘this incident [of Jessica overreacting] makes me less of a SlayerS fan.’ Slayers_Jessica somehow found that comment and started to aggressively attack him."

that really has to be overreacting no matter where you're from

edit: IS SHE REALLY IN GOLD LEAGUE?
hippocritical
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia465 Posts
July 19 2011 09:50 GMT
#233
It was sort of silly to say we're recruiting SlayerS_Eve for her skills AND LOOKS. That's like saying we'll recruit Megan Fox to play for Real Madrid because she can play football and look hot, you're bound to get people flaming. Eve is in Diamond League (Gold -> Diamond? not sure), for a pro team to recruit a subpar player in the most competitive server in the world just for looks is quite shallow.

Of course you're going to get haters, with so many good players on the server that don't have a team (shinystar) they recruit a girl, which is problematic enough in a male dominated game. I try not to have a sexist view on things, but it would be stupid for me to say that if they had recruited shinystar that they would have message boards posting shinystar's head on AV porn. You get what you buy, you buy a girl with looks, you get the problems with sexual harassment, you buy a subpar player, you get criticism (just look at all the shit Fernando Torres got when he left for Chelsea). If even a player with the prowess of Torres gets crap from people, you can imagine what an average player like Eve would get.

Then you mix the two together and place them into a community that values skill over looks most the time and you get a problem. Whether you should actually report people for being mean over the internet is questionable, but I agree if you want to get rid of the stigma that female programers are sacred cows. You have to be ready to accept people will be idiots and that they will bash girls for being girls. Jessica should get off her high horse, being objectified is a part of being a public figure.

TL,DR: If you're going to market a progamer (and a girl progamer) for skills and looks, you're going to have to realise that she must either perform at a high level like all the other progamers, or she will be viewed as a glorified cheerleader :/ .
videogames
Profile Joined May 2011
United States103 Posts
July 19 2011 09:50 GMT
#234
On July 19 2011 18:46 blackone wrote:
I'm cool with it, the internet would be a much better place if all the 14 year old 4chan kids would realize that their actions have consequences even if they happen online.

Agreed, DEATH TO FREE SPEECH!
>
Nastiness
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden275 Posts
July 19 2011 09:50 GMT
#235
- "But to be controlled in Korea is not an entirely new thing. In April, the BW-club KT Rolstad to sue a person who mocked Flash. The guy in question broke down and apologized, and the mood was down."

lmao trolls cry irl :'(
There is no rest in the dark realm.
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
July 19 2011 09:50 GMT
#236
She's taking it too far. She needs to just brush internet comments off of her shoulder. If you fight them with police action, it will make them seem like what they said was true. It martyr's them, and makes the team look bad. Why can she just support the team like she says she wants to, help them out, help the pros get better, give support for SlayersEve...
srsly
TanX
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark92 Posts
July 19 2011 09:52 GMT
#237
That is an insane reaction! how can you even think that an internet comment is worthy of such a reaction? Jessica was the one recruiting a useless member based on her looks, so all the criticism directed and their choice is deserved imo. Obviously, there is a difference between 'harassment' and criticism, but I doubt that all of these people can be considered as harassers in the same sense that a co-worker can commit sexual harassment, which is despicable.

Internet censorship is pure shit, so I definitely disagrees with all of Jessica's actions that go beyond simply expressing her opinions with words.
'but this is not supposed to be the old starcraft'
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
July 19 2011 09:53 GMT
#238
I lost all my respect to her when she was being pissed over people criticizing boxer after being knocked out of gsl. she seriously needs to calm down and realize internet is not real life. I have to say though it seems like she's kinda nuts.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 09:55:16
July 19 2011 09:54 GMT
#239
On July 19 2011 18:46 videogames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 18:44 KeksX wrote:
Well I think when she goes to the cops it's their job to judge whether she is overeacting or not, not ours. Right?

I'm not going to have any opinion on this as I'm not even nearly related to that. And that is what some people here should do, too.

You're right, people shouldn't have their own opinions.
Ignorance is strength.

You call it ignorance when you don't build an opinion based on rumors, stuff "you heard" but you don't actually know about?

Do you know Jessica's intentions? Do you know how Eve feels? Do you know the history of online-flaming results? Do you know the suicides that were caused by things like that?
Do you know how far these people actually went? Do you know what the police stated to these kind of issues? Do you know ANYTHING that makes YOU competent enough to have an opinion on that topic?

If you have, go for it and judge. But if you lack important facts, then don't even dare to judge -_-.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
July 19 2011 09:54 GMT
#240
Here's some more information on the situation.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/bqp8ek
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I don't think people understand what's happening with @SlayerS_Jessica and the legal action. I was talking about it with her, so let me explain her position: she isn't just suing random people, whether fans or antis.

When a female player joined the ranks of SlayerS, certain people photoshopped her into indecent and pornographic images out of spite. Others also spammed sexist, derogatory posts about her Jessica. Eve feels humiliated and hurt by the abuse.

Jessica is not suing the average anti who is saying bad things about SlayerS: she is taking action against people who are immorally persecuting her and one of her team members.

Korean observers see what's happening, but there's some non-Koreans who think that she's just suing random Starcraft fans: this is not true. She's going after the people who are defaming and humiliating one of her team members.

Jessica is trying to protect SlayerS Eve, someone who has only just come into the public eye and doesn't deserve the abuse. She is doing what any person would do to protect their family and friends; if someone close to you was getting that kind of abuse for absolutely no reason, wouldn't you do everything in your power to stop it?
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
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