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Page 26 and onwards I will issue at least two day bans to anyone who clearly has not read the original topic post and the explanations contained therein. He was barred access to the event days before the actual event took place and used some random diamond player his account to try and get in anyway.
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it looks like sixjax has been having some problems with major for a while now. i wonder what will break the camel's back.
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On July 19 2011 05:15 Ocedic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 18:44 shadymmj wrote:
People here are like a lynch mob brandishing their pitchforks of good morality. Sure, the guy is a douche, we all know that, but it's a free country. I don't take anything else too seriously other than the game. Starcraft 2 is a game, and there are dicks and griefers in every game. Live with it. No one is obligated to help a scene grow.
If I were as good as him, could possibly smurf, get away with it and split the cash, then why the hell not? I love the meta-morality guys like you. You see people in a furor over the behavior of a prominent figure in the community, then decide to act like a hipster and go against the bandwagon for the sake of it. I'm familiar with a lot of competitive circles in a LOT of games, and BW/SC2 is by far the most well mannered in general. Yes, dicks and griefers exist in every game, including these, but there's a LOT less, and it's because people don't "live with it" like you cynically put it. If there was zero repercussions for people misbehaving, then this community would be rather awful. I'm thankful for this thread because I was a fan of Major after the last MLG, but I know what he's really like. The cheating itself is bad enough, but the way he presented himself in the chat log, calling someone a fag when they were being civil is just flat out ridiculous.
Ya I have to agree with this. If we all just say "meh, deal with it" every time, then things will go downhill very quickly as people will keep pushing what they can get away with over and over.
I do have to point out that I love one of the lines from the guy you quoted... "Sure, the guy is a douche, we all know that, but it's a free country." Lmfao... but it's a free country... there are so many things wrong with that statement... especially since the poster is probably from a different country than Major, who is from a different country than the citizenship based tournament he was playing in. Also, just because someone lives in a free country doesn't make breaking rules justified. It also...
Ehh I will just leave it at that. There are so many flaws in his quote though, including saying Sc2 is "just a game."
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On July 19 2011 05:58 mechavoc wrote:Interesting pattern of behavior here. A summary how those who do not want to read 50 + pages. 1. We have this activity with this SEA tournament. (Told he could not play so he smurfs on another account, lies about it and is bm to the admins) 2. smurfing in WCG http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/409386-smurfing-at-wcg3. The very manner TSL payment post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117923+ Show Spoiler +OK SINCE NO ONE ANSERWS MY EMAILS AND HOTBID IS QUITE USELESS SAYING ITS NOT HIS RESPONSABILITY
I SENT MY BANK INFORMATION AROUND (2weeks ago?) they didnt even had the courtesy to anserw it back with atleast saying "we got ur bank information we will inform u whenever we send ur money" they did nothing about it i dont even know if im gonna get my money anytime since i dont see anyone helping me im gonna post it the forum to see if now i actually Get ansrwed by someone -__-? 4. The interesting "Maker is a thief" post (another admit to account sharing) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221804+ Show Spoiler +Hi everyone, this is sixjaxMajOr also know as "Juan/Gosi[Terran]. Basically I ran into a huge problem with checksix/Maker. Me and my "friend"(Maker) bought an account for smurfing and both paid half for it, whereas I used my credit card to buy it. Unfortunately it was discovered that I was a player on the account because people were accusing me of being a hacker, and the stats didn't make sense, etc. I played the majority of the games on this account and then suddenly Maker says he wants out of the deal even though we both paid half. He then changed the password to the account and set-up parental controls on the account so I can't gain access to it at all, not even through blizzard. He now wants his money back in exchange for the account, since he says the account is "wasted" now that it's revealed who wa son it (even though it's still Grandmasters account). So this whole time now he's been being a douchebag and avoiding me etc, and my friend ended up getting into some of his accounts in hopes of trying to find a way to get me back the account he stole. What's really pissing me off the most is that this team "checksix" is okay with what he's done, and is even backing him up on it (which is really quite fucking pathetic). They're not willing to do anything about it, and even are trying to somewhat threaten me with some weird shit claiming that what I'm doing/requesting is wrong etc. Really don't know what to do since Maker made all the account info his, and I don't know how to contact blizzard abut this specific problem. Tried scaling his e-mails for some information that might've been able to help me get into the account but there was nothing. Can anyone please give me an idea of what to do? This guy is such a scumbag really being such a thief, it's just pissing me off. Link to account: http://sc2ranks.com/us/2802903/LightTake in mind guys he literally only played from beggining to around master and like 10 games of masters - grandmasters the rest were all played by me 5. Short life with Root gaming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209881Includes a nice shot at his former team + Show Spoiler +On April 07 2011 19:42 sixjaxMajor wrote:
the fact that root sponsors are only trial sponsors aka advertise get nothing back i have deal with taht in the back why would i deal with it again when they obv wont support the team perhaps only IGN with something i cant do anything so i rather move to another team that there will be news soon 2-5 days which team i will be joining where i will actually get something of my effort and not deal with what my self call fake sponsors except for IGN 6. Dropping out of a showmatch series Special Endrey setup for him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244885¤tpage=4#80+ Show Spoiler +On July 18 2011 11:29 Special Endrey wrote:
Well I have some personal experience with major too. agreeing to play an event. i organized everything already then i wanted to talk about some details and suddenly he didnt want to play anymore.
major pulled a major major on me It has been a very busy 2011 for Major!
Wow nice. Considering how much he's done, he's gotta be banned off of sixjax. And imo what he did here is by far worse than any of these - he fraudulently attempted to steal money from Dox under false pretenses, when Dox was trying to infuse money into the SEA Sc2 community that he could have easily kept for himself. I feel sorry for players from SEA ;/
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On July 18 2011 16:37 azka wrote:
Wow... as a mexican gamer I'm very ashamed and disappointed. He's our only big player out there, and some times we can't be 100% proud of him.
Indeed, real shame.
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On July 19 2011 06:31 Belial88 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:58 mechavoc wrote:Interesting pattern of behavior here. A summary how those who do not want to read 50 + pages. 1. We have this activity with this SEA tournament. (Told he could not play so he smurfs on another account, lies about it and is bm to the admins) 2. smurfing in WCG http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/409386-smurfing-at-wcg3. The very manner TSL payment post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117923+ Show Spoiler +OK SINCE NO ONE ANSERWS MY EMAILS AND HOTBID IS QUITE USELESS SAYING ITS NOT HIS RESPONSABILITY
I SENT MY BANK INFORMATION AROUND (2weeks ago?) they didnt even had the courtesy to anserw it back with atleast saying "we got ur bank information we will inform u whenever we send ur money" they did nothing about it i dont even know if im gonna get my money anytime since i dont see anyone helping me im gonna post it the forum to see if now i actually Get ansrwed by someone -__-? 4. The interesting "Maker is a thief" post (another admit to account sharing) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221804+ Show Spoiler +Hi everyone, this is sixjaxMajOr also know as "Juan/Gosi[Terran]. Basically I ran into a huge problem with checksix/Maker. Me and my "friend"(Maker) bought an account for smurfing and both paid half for it, whereas I used my credit card to buy it. Unfortunately it was discovered that I was a player on the account because people were accusing me of being a hacker, and the stats didn't make sense, etc. I played the majority of the games on this account and then suddenly Maker says he wants out of the deal even though we both paid half. He then changed the password to the account and set-up parental controls on the account so I can't gain access to it at all, not even through blizzard. He now wants his money back in exchange for the account, since he says the account is "wasted" now that it's revealed who wa son it (even though it's still Grandmasters account). So this whole time now he's been being a douchebag and avoiding me etc, and my friend ended up getting into some of his accounts in hopes of trying to find a way to get me back the account he stole. What's really pissing me off the most is that this team "checksix" is okay with what he's done, and is even backing him up on it (which is really quite fucking pathetic). They're not willing to do anything about it, and even are trying to somewhat threaten me with some weird shit claiming that what I'm doing/requesting is wrong etc. Really don't know what to do since Maker made all the account info his, and I don't know how to contact blizzard abut this specific problem. Tried scaling his e-mails for some information that might've been able to help me get into the account but there was nothing. Can anyone please give me an idea of what to do? This guy is such a scumbag really being such a thief, it's just pissing me off. Link to account: http://sc2ranks.com/us/2802903/LightTake in mind guys he literally only played from beggining to around master and like 10 games of masters - grandmasters the rest were all played by me 5. Short life with Root gaming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209881Includes a nice shot at his former team + Show Spoiler +On April 07 2011 19:42 sixjaxMajor wrote:
the fact that root sponsors are only trial sponsors aka advertise get nothing back i have deal with taht in the back why would i deal with it again when they obv wont support the team perhaps only IGN with something i cant do anything so i rather move to another team that there will be news soon 2-5 days which team i will be joining where i will actually get something of my effort and not deal with what my self call fake sponsors except for IGN 6. Dropping out of a showmatch series Special Endrey setup for him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244885¤tpage=4#80+ Show Spoiler +On July 18 2011 11:29 Special Endrey wrote:
Well I have some personal experience with major too. agreeing to play an event. i organized everything already then i wanted to talk about some details and suddenly he didnt want to play anymore.
major pulled a major major on me It has been a very busy 2011 for Major! Wow nice. Considering how much he's done, he's gotta be banned off of sixjax. And imo what he did here is by far worse than any of these - he fraudulently attempted to steal money from Dox under false pretenses, when Dox was trying to infuse money into the SEA Sc2 community that he could have easily kept for himself. I feel sorry for players from SEA ;/
I think Artosis loves the guy too much for him to receive any real punishment. Nothing's really going to happen other than SJ saying "We're sorry and he won't do it again".
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On July 19 2011 05:58 mechavoc wrote:Interesting pattern of behavior here. A summary how those who do not want to read 50 + pages. 1. We have this activity with this SEA tournament. (Told he could not play so he smurfs on another account, lies about it and is bm to the admins) 2. smurfing in WCG http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/409386-smurfing-at-wcg3. The very manner TSL payment post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117923+ Show Spoiler +OK SINCE NO ONE ANSERWS MY EMAILS AND HOTBID IS QUITE USELESS SAYING ITS NOT HIS RESPONSABILITY
I SENT MY BANK INFORMATION AROUND (2weeks ago?) they didnt even had the courtesy to anserw it back with atleast saying "we got ur bank information we will inform u whenever we send ur money" they did nothing about it i dont even know if im gonna get my money anytime since i dont see anyone helping me im gonna post it the forum to see if now i actually Get ansrwed by someone -__-? 4. The interesting "Maker is a thief" post (another admit to account sharing) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221804+ Show Spoiler +Hi everyone, this is sixjaxMajOr also know as "Juan/Gosi[Terran]. Basically I ran into a huge problem with checksix/Maker. Me and my "friend"(Maker) bought an account for smurfing and both paid half for it, whereas I used my credit card to buy it. Unfortunately it was discovered that I was a player on the account because people were accusing me of being a hacker, and the stats didn't make sense, etc. I played the majority of the games on this account and then suddenly Maker says he wants out of the deal even though we both paid half. He then changed the password to the account and set-up parental controls on the account so I can't gain access to it at all, not even through blizzard. He now wants his money back in exchange for the account, since he says the account is "wasted" now that it's revealed who wa son it (even though it's still Grandmasters account). So this whole time now he's been being a douchebag and avoiding me etc, and my friend ended up getting into some of his accounts in hopes of trying to find a way to get me back the account he stole. What's really pissing me off the most is that this team "checksix" is okay with what he's done, and is even backing him up on it (which is really quite fucking pathetic). They're not willing to do anything about it, and even are trying to somewhat threaten me with some weird shit claiming that what I'm doing/requesting is wrong etc. Really don't know what to do since Maker made all the account info his, and I don't know how to contact blizzard abut this specific problem. Tried scaling his e-mails for some information that might've been able to help me get into the account but there was nothing. Can anyone please give me an idea of what to do? This guy is such a scumbag really being such a thief, it's just pissing me off. Link to account: http://sc2ranks.com/us/2802903/LightTake in mind guys he literally only played from beggining to around master and like 10 games of masters - grandmasters the rest were all played by me 5. Short life with Root gaming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209881Includes a nice shot at his former team + Show Spoiler +On April 07 2011 19:42 sixjaxMajor wrote:
the fact that root sponsors are only trial sponsors aka advertise get nothing back i have deal with taht in the back why would i deal with it again when they obv wont support the team perhaps only IGN with something i cant do anything so i rather move to another team that there will be news soon 2-5 days which team i will be joining where i will actually get something of my effort and not deal with what my self call fake sponsors except for IGN 6. Dropping out of a showmatch series Special Endrey setup for him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244885¤tpage=4#80+ Show Spoiler +On July 18 2011 11:29 Special Endrey wrote:
Well I have some personal experience with major too. agreeing to play an event. i organized everything already then i wanted to talk about some details and suddenly he didnt want to play anymore.
major pulled a major major on me It has been a very busy 2011 for Major!
Send this post to every team entertaining the thought of recruiting major after sixjax drops him.
Sounds like evoli is kinda fed up with him as well, always having to clean up after this guy. I don't blame him.
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On July 19 2011 06:31 Belial88 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:58 mechavoc wrote:Interesting pattern of behavior here. A summary how those who do not want to read 50 + pages. 1. We have this activity with this SEA tournament. (Told he could not play so he smurfs on another account, lies about it and is bm to the admins) 2. smurfing in WCG http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/409386-smurfing-at-wcg3. The very manner TSL payment post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117923+ Show Spoiler +OK SINCE NO ONE ANSERWS MY EMAILS AND HOTBID IS QUITE USELESS SAYING ITS NOT HIS RESPONSABILITY
I SENT MY BANK INFORMATION AROUND (2weeks ago?) they didnt even had the courtesy to anserw it back with atleast saying "we got ur bank information we will inform u whenever we send ur money" they did nothing about it i dont even know if im gonna get my money anytime since i dont see anyone helping me im gonna post it the forum to see if now i actually Get ansrwed by someone -__-? 4. The interesting "Maker is a thief" post (another admit to account sharing) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221804+ Show Spoiler +Hi everyone, this is sixjaxMajOr also know as "Juan/Gosi[Terran]. Basically I ran into a huge problem with checksix/Maker. Me and my "friend"(Maker) bought an account for smurfing and both paid half for it, whereas I used my credit card to buy it. Unfortunately it was discovered that I was a player on the account because people were accusing me of being a hacker, and the stats didn't make sense, etc. I played the majority of the games on this account and then suddenly Maker says he wants out of the deal even though we both paid half. He then changed the password to the account and set-up parental controls on the account so I can't gain access to it at all, not even through blizzard. He now wants his money back in exchange for the account, since he says the account is "wasted" now that it's revealed who wa son it (even though it's still Grandmasters account). So this whole time now he's been being a douchebag and avoiding me etc, and my friend ended up getting into some of his accounts in hopes of trying to find a way to get me back the account he stole. What's really pissing me off the most is that this team "checksix" is okay with what he's done, and is even backing him up on it (which is really quite fucking pathetic). They're not willing to do anything about it, and even are trying to somewhat threaten me with some weird shit claiming that what I'm doing/requesting is wrong etc. Really don't know what to do since Maker made all the account info his, and I don't know how to contact blizzard abut this specific problem. Tried scaling his e-mails for some information that might've been able to help me get into the account but there was nothing. Can anyone please give me an idea of what to do? This guy is such a scumbag really being such a thief, it's just pissing me off. Link to account: http://sc2ranks.com/us/2802903/LightTake in mind guys he literally only played from beggining to around master and like 10 games of masters - grandmasters the rest were all played by me 5. Short life with Root gaming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209881Includes a nice shot at his former team + Show Spoiler +On April 07 2011 19:42 sixjaxMajor wrote:
the fact that root sponsors are only trial sponsors aka advertise get nothing back i have deal with taht in the back why would i deal with it again when they obv wont support the team perhaps only IGN with something i cant do anything so i rather move to another team that there will be news soon 2-5 days which team i will be joining where i will actually get something of my effort and not deal with what my self call fake sponsors except for IGN 6. Dropping out of a showmatch series Special Endrey setup for him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244885¤tpage=4#80+ Show Spoiler +On July 18 2011 11:29 Special Endrey wrote:
Well I have some personal experience with major too. agreeing to play an event. i organized everything already then i wanted to talk about some details and suddenly he didnt want to play anymore.
major pulled a major major on me It has been a very busy 2011 for Major! Wow nice. Considering how much he's done, he's gotta be banned off of sixjax. And imo what he did here is by far worse than any of these - he fraudulently attempted to steal money from Dox under false pretenses, when Dox was trying to infuse money into the SEA Sc2 community that he could have easily kept for himself. I feel sorry for players from SEA ;/
Do you read at all? He said that he didn't want to play for the cash. He said he wanted to play just for the fun.
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On July 19 2011 06:47 MonkSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 06:31 Belial88 wrote:On July 19 2011 05:58 mechavoc wrote:Interesting pattern of behavior here. A summary how those who do not want to read 50 + pages. 1. We have this activity with this SEA tournament. (Told he could not play so he smurfs on another account, lies about it and is bm to the admins) 2. smurfing in WCG http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/409386-smurfing-at-wcg3. The very manner TSL payment post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117923+ Show Spoiler +OK SINCE NO ONE ANSERWS MY EMAILS AND HOTBID IS QUITE USELESS SAYING ITS NOT HIS RESPONSABILITY
I SENT MY BANK INFORMATION AROUND (2weeks ago?) they didnt even had the courtesy to anserw it back with atleast saying "we got ur bank information we will inform u whenever we send ur money" they did nothing about it i dont even know if im gonna get my money anytime since i dont see anyone helping me im gonna post it the forum to see if now i actually Get ansrwed by someone -__-? 4. The interesting "Maker is a thief" post (another admit to account sharing) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221804+ Show Spoiler +Hi everyone, this is sixjaxMajOr also know as "Juan/Gosi[Terran]. Basically I ran into a huge problem with checksix/Maker. Me and my "friend"(Maker) bought an account for smurfing and both paid half for it, whereas I used my credit card to buy it. Unfortunately it was discovered that I was a player on the account because people were accusing me of being a hacker, and the stats didn't make sense, etc. I played the majority of the games on this account and then suddenly Maker says he wants out of the deal even though we both paid half. He then changed the password to the account and set-up parental controls on the account so I can't gain access to it at all, not even through blizzard. He now wants his money back in exchange for the account, since he says the account is "wasted" now that it's revealed who wa son it (even though it's still Grandmasters account). So this whole time now he's been being a douchebag and avoiding me etc, and my friend ended up getting into some of his accounts in hopes of trying to find a way to get me back the account he stole. What's really pissing me off the most is that this team "checksix" is okay with what he's done, and is even backing him up on it (which is really quite fucking pathetic). They're not willing to do anything about it, and even are trying to somewhat threaten me with some weird shit claiming that what I'm doing/requesting is wrong etc. Really don't know what to do since Maker made all the account info his, and I don't know how to contact blizzard abut this specific problem. Tried scaling his e-mails for some information that might've been able to help me get into the account but there was nothing. Can anyone please give me an idea of what to do? This guy is such a scumbag really being such a thief, it's just pissing me off. Link to account: http://sc2ranks.com/us/2802903/LightTake in mind guys he literally only played from beggining to around master and like 10 games of masters - grandmasters the rest were all played by me 5. Short life with Root gaming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209881Includes a nice shot at his former team + Show Spoiler +On April 07 2011 19:42 sixjaxMajor wrote:
the fact that root sponsors are only trial sponsors aka advertise get nothing back i have deal with taht in the back why would i deal with it again when they obv wont support the team perhaps only IGN with something i cant do anything so i rather move to another team that there will be news soon 2-5 days which team i will be joining where i will actually get something of my effort and not deal with what my self call fake sponsors except for IGN 6. Dropping out of a showmatch series Special Endrey setup for him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244885¤tpage=4#80+ Show Spoiler +On July 18 2011 11:29 Special Endrey wrote:
Well I have some personal experience with major too. agreeing to play an event. i organized everything already then i wanted to talk about some details and suddenly he didnt want to play anymore.
major pulled a major major on me It has been a very busy 2011 for Major! Wow nice. Considering how much he's done, he's gotta be banned off of sixjax. And imo what he did here is by far worse than any of these - he fraudulently attempted to steal money from Dox under false pretenses, when Dox was trying to infuse money into the SEA Sc2 community that he could have easily kept for himself. I feel sorry for players from SEA ;/ Do you read at all? He said that he didn't want to play for the cash. He said he wanted to play just for the fun.
Then why enter a tournament with a cash prize?
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On July 19 2011 06:43 Bobster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:58 mechavoc wrote:Interesting pattern of behavior here. A summary how those who do not want to read 50 + pages. 1. We have this activity with this SEA tournament. (Told he could not play so he smurfs on another account, lies about it and is bm to the admins) 2. smurfing in WCG http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/409386-smurfing-at-wcg3. The very manner TSL payment post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117923+ Show Spoiler +OK SINCE NO ONE ANSERWS MY EMAILS AND HOTBID IS QUITE USELESS SAYING ITS NOT HIS RESPONSABILITY
I SENT MY BANK INFORMATION AROUND (2weeks ago?) they didnt even had the courtesy to anserw it back with atleast saying "we got ur bank information we will inform u whenever we send ur money" they did nothing about it i dont even know if im gonna get my money anytime since i dont see anyone helping me im gonna post it the forum to see if now i actually Get ansrwed by someone -__-? 4. The interesting "Maker is a thief" post (another admit to account sharing) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221804+ Show Spoiler +Hi everyone, this is sixjaxMajOr also know as "Juan/Gosi[Terran]. Basically I ran into a huge problem with checksix/Maker. Me and my "friend"(Maker) bought an account for smurfing and both paid half for it, whereas I used my credit card to buy it. Unfortunately it was discovered that I was a player on the account because people were accusing me of being a hacker, and the stats didn't make sense, etc. I played the majority of the games on this account and then suddenly Maker says he wants out of the deal even though we both paid half. He then changed the password to the account and set-up parental controls on the account so I can't gain access to it at all, not even through blizzard. He now wants his money back in exchange for the account, since he says the account is "wasted" now that it's revealed who wa son it (even though it's still Grandmasters account). So this whole time now he's been being a douchebag and avoiding me etc, and my friend ended up getting into some of his accounts in hopes of trying to find a way to get me back the account he stole. What's really pissing me off the most is that this team "checksix" is okay with what he's done, and is even backing him up on it (which is really quite fucking pathetic). They're not willing to do anything about it, and even are trying to somewhat threaten me with some weird shit claiming that what I'm doing/requesting is wrong etc. Really don't know what to do since Maker made all the account info his, and I don't know how to contact blizzard abut this specific problem. Tried scaling his e-mails for some information that might've been able to help me get into the account but there was nothing. Can anyone please give me an idea of what to do? This guy is such a scumbag really being such a thief, it's just pissing me off. Link to account: http://sc2ranks.com/us/2802903/LightTake in mind guys he literally only played from beggining to around master and like 10 games of masters - grandmasters the rest were all played by me 5. Short life with Root gaming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209881Includes a nice shot at his former team + Show Spoiler +On April 07 2011 19:42 sixjaxMajor wrote:
the fact that root sponsors are only trial sponsors aka advertise get nothing back i have deal with taht in the back why would i deal with it again when they obv wont support the team perhaps only IGN with something i cant do anything so i rather move to another team that there will be news soon 2-5 days which team i will be joining where i will actually get something of my effort and not deal with what my self call fake sponsors except for IGN 6. Dropping out of a showmatch series Special Endrey setup for him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244885¤tpage=4#80+ Show Spoiler +On July 18 2011 11:29 Special Endrey wrote:
Well I have some personal experience with major too. agreeing to play an event. i organized everything already then i wanted to talk about some details and suddenly he didnt want to play anymore.
major pulled a major major on me It has been a very busy 2011 for Major! Send this post to every team entertaining the thought of recruiting major after sixjax drops him. Sounds like evoli is kinda fed up with him as well, always having to clean up after this guy. I don't blame him.
If Sixjax doesn't do something about this I'm gonna be VERY suprised.
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On July 19 2011 06:47 MonkSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 06:31 Belial88 wrote:On July 19 2011 05:58 mechavoc wrote:Interesting pattern of behavior here. A summary how those who do not want to read 50 + pages. 1. We have this activity with this SEA tournament. (Told he could not play so he smurfs on another account, lies about it and is bm to the admins) 2. smurfing in WCG http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/409386-smurfing-at-wcg3. The very manner TSL payment post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117923+ Show Spoiler +OK SINCE NO ONE ANSERWS MY EMAILS AND HOTBID IS QUITE USELESS SAYING ITS NOT HIS RESPONSABILITY
I SENT MY BANK INFORMATION AROUND (2weeks ago?) they didnt even had the courtesy to anserw it back with atleast saying "we got ur bank information we will inform u whenever we send ur money" they did nothing about it i dont even know if im gonna get my money anytime since i dont see anyone helping me im gonna post it the forum to see if now i actually Get ansrwed by someone -__-? 4. The interesting "Maker is a thief" post (another admit to account sharing) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221804+ Show Spoiler +Hi everyone, this is sixjaxMajOr also know as "Juan/Gosi[Terran]. Basically I ran into a huge problem with checksix/Maker. Me and my "friend"(Maker) bought an account for smurfing and both paid half for it, whereas I used my credit card to buy it. Unfortunately it was discovered that I was a player on the account because people were accusing me of being a hacker, and the stats didn't make sense, etc. I played the majority of the games on this account and then suddenly Maker says he wants out of the deal even though we both paid half. He then changed the password to the account and set-up parental controls on the account so I can't gain access to it at all, not even through blizzard. He now wants his money back in exchange for the account, since he says the account is "wasted" now that it's revealed who wa son it (even though it's still Grandmasters account). So this whole time now he's been being a douchebag and avoiding me etc, and my friend ended up getting into some of his accounts in hopes of trying to find a way to get me back the account he stole. What's really pissing me off the most is that this team "checksix" is okay with what he's done, and is even backing him up on it (which is really quite fucking pathetic). They're not willing to do anything about it, and even are trying to somewhat threaten me with some weird shit claiming that what I'm doing/requesting is wrong etc. Really don't know what to do since Maker made all the account info his, and I don't know how to contact blizzard abut this specific problem. Tried scaling his e-mails for some information that might've been able to help me get into the account but there was nothing. Can anyone please give me an idea of what to do? This guy is such a scumbag really being such a thief, it's just pissing me off. Link to account: http://sc2ranks.com/us/2802903/LightTake in mind guys he literally only played from beggining to around master and like 10 games of masters - grandmasters the rest were all played by me 5. Short life with Root gaming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209881Includes a nice shot at his former team + Show Spoiler +On April 07 2011 19:42 sixjaxMajor wrote:
the fact that root sponsors are only trial sponsors aka advertise get nothing back i have deal with taht in the back why would i deal with it again when they obv wont support the team perhaps only IGN with something i cant do anything so i rather move to another team that there will be news soon 2-5 days which team i will be joining where i will actually get something of my effort and not deal with what my self call fake sponsors except for IGN 6. Dropping out of a showmatch series Special Endrey setup for him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244885¤tpage=4#80+ Show Spoiler +On July 18 2011 11:29 Special Endrey wrote:
Well I have some personal experience with major too. agreeing to play an event. i organized everything already then i wanted to talk about some details and suddenly he didnt want to play anymore.
major pulled a major major on me It has been a very busy 2011 for Major! Wow nice. Considering how much he's done, he's gotta be banned off of sixjax. And imo what he did here is by far worse than any of these - he fraudulently attempted to steal money from Dox under false pretenses, when Dox was trying to infuse money into the SEA Sc2 community that he could have easily kept for himself. I feel sorry for players from SEA ;/ Do you read at all? He said that he didn't want to play for the cash. He said he wanted to play just for the fun.
And you actually believe that?
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On July 19 2011 06:35 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 06:31 Belial88 wrote:On July 19 2011 05:58 mechavoc wrote:Interesting pattern of behavior here. A summary how those who do not want to read 50 + pages. 1. We have this activity with this SEA tournament. (Told he could not play so he smurfs on another account, lies about it and is bm to the admins) 2. smurfing in WCG http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/409386-smurfing-at-wcg3. The very manner TSL payment post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117923+ Show Spoiler +OK SINCE NO ONE ANSERWS MY EMAILS AND HOTBID IS QUITE USELESS SAYING ITS NOT HIS RESPONSABILITY
I SENT MY BANK INFORMATION AROUND (2weeks ago?) they didnt even had the courtesy to anserw it back with atleast saying "we got ur bank information we will inform u whenever we send ur money" they did nothing about it i dont even know if im gonna get my money anytime since i dont see anyone helping me im gonna post it the forum to see if now i actually Get ansrwed by someone -__-? 4. The interesting "Maker is a thief" post (another admit to account sharing) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221804+ Show Spoiler +Hi everyone, this is sixjaxMajOr also know as "Juan/Gosi[Terran]. Basically I ran into a huge problem with checksix/Maker. Me and my "friend"(Maker) bought an account for smurfing and both paid half for it, whereas I used my credit card to buy it. Unfortunately it was discovered that I was a player on the account because people were accusing me of being a hacker, and the stats didn't make sense, etc. I played the majority of the games on this account and then suddenly Maker says he wants out of the deal even though we both paid half. He then changed the password to the account and set-up parental controls on the account so I can't gain access to it at all, not even through blizzard. He now wants his money back in exchange for the account, since he says the account is "wasted" now that it's revealed who wa son it (even though it's still Grandmasters account). So this whole time now he's been being a douchebag and avoiding me etc, and my friend ended up getting into some of his accounts in hopes of trying to find a way to get me back the account he stole. What's really pissing me off the most is that this team "checksix" is okay with what he's done, and is even backing him up on it (which is really quite fucking pathetic). They're not willing to do anything about it, and even are trying to somewhat threaten me with some weird shit claiming that what I'm doing/requesting is wrong etc. Really don't know what to do since Maker made all the account info his, and I don't know how to contact blizzard abut this specific problem. Tried scaling his e-mails for some information that might've been able to help me get into the account but there was nothing. Can anyone please give me an idea of what to do? This guy is such a scumbag really being such a thief, it's just pissing me off. Link to account: http://sc2ranks.com/us/2802903/LightTake in mind guys he literally only played from beggining to around master and like 10 games of masters - grandmasters the rest were all played by me 5. Short life with Root gaming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209881Includes a nice shot at his former team + Show Spoiler +On April 07 2011 19:42 sixjaxMajor wrote:
the fact that root sponsors are only trial sponsors aka advertise get nothing back i have deal with taht in the back why would i deal with it again when they obv wont support the team perhaps only IGN with something i cant do anything so i rather move to another team that there will be news soon 2-5 days which team i will be joining where i will actually get something of my effort and not deal with what my self call fake sponsors except for IGN 6. Dropping out of a showmatch series Special Endrey setup for him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244885¤tpage=4#80+ Show Spoiler +On July 18 2011 11:29 Special Endrey wrote:
Well I have some personal experience with major too. agreeing to play an event. i organized everything already then i wanted to talk about some details and suddenly he didnt want to play anymore.
major pulled a major major on me It has been a very busy 2011 for Major! Wow nice. Considering how much he's done, he's gotta be banned off of sixjax. And imo what he did here is by far worse than any of these - he fraudulently attempted to steal money from Dox under false pretenses, when Dox was trying to infuse money into the SEA Sc2 community that he could have easily kept for himself. I feel sorry for players from SEA ;/ I think Artosis loves the guy too much for him to receive any real punishment. Nothing's really going to happen other than SJ saying "We're sorry and he won't do it again".
There's a reason why keeping business and personal stuff seperated is so damn important
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This gave me an idea for a tournament, where many pro players go with smurf accounts, playing each other not knowing who is who, making everyone suspect who they are by their play styles, and then at the end knowing eveything. It would be awesome hahha
Now on this topic... Bad Major
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Well, at least he didn't have the Emperor wake up at 4 AM only to stand him up.
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Expected something like this to happen with Major, he's BM.
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On July 19 2011 06:26 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:15 Ocedic wrote:On July 18 2011 18:44 shadymmj wrote:
People here are like a lynch mob brandishing their pitchforks of good morality. Sure, the guy is a douche, we all know that, but it's a free country. I don't take anything else too seriously other than the game. Starcraft 2 is a game, and there are dicks and griefers in every game. Live with it. No one is obligated to help a scene grow.
If I were as good as him, could possibly smurf, get away with it and split the cash, then why the hell not? I love the meta-morality guys like you. You see people in a furor over the behavior of a prominent figure in the community, then decide to act like a hipster and go against the bandwagon for the sake of it. I'm familiar with a lot of competitive circles in a LOT of games, and BW/SC2 is by far the most well mannered in general. Yes, dicks and griefers exist in every game, including these, but there's a LOT less, and it's because people don't "live with it" like you cynically put it. If there was zero repercussions for people misbehaving, then this community would be rather awful. I'm thankful for this thread because I was a fan of Major after the last MLG, but I know what he's really like. The cheating itself is bad enough, but the way he presented himself in the chat log, calling someone a fag when they were being civil is just flat out ridiculous. Ya I have to agree with this. If we all just say "meh, deal with it" every time, then things will go downhill very quickly as people will keep pushing what they can get away with over and over.
Agreed. The SC community is easily one of the better game communities (definitely better than most FPS online communities >.>).
Also an analogy for the "is SEA only really okay?" is this - what if a college had a small tournament for college students (who attend that college that is)? Now of course smurfing in a college tournament would be harder (nearly impossible if it was LAN unless you have a look alike with the same ID as an existing student >.>) but this just an analogy.
Honestly most people would be okay with an exclusive college tournament; (IMO) taking that analogue into account, it's fine for a tournament to only include players based on SEA citizenship (for example).
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How is this Major on a professional team? He has time and again shown his willingness to break rules and disrespect admins and the people behind these events. I really wish I could cheer for sixjax, but with Major on the team, i just won't.
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The best part of this thread is that it would've died awhile ago, but because Major thought insulting the SEA and NA servers was the smartest way to go about it, this thread isn't going to die any time soon.
Hope he realises that being pro means having responsibilities as well.
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I really don't like major but I don't see how it stops people from cheering for other sixjax players. I can understand how it may reflect on the sixjax staff, but not on other players on the team. I'll still be rooting for dde a ton but not major.
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On July 19 2011 06:31 Belial88 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 05:58 mechavoc wrote:Interesting pattern of behavior here. A summary how those who do not want to read 50 + pages. 1. We have this activity with this SEA tournament. (Told he could not play so he smurfs on another account, lies about it and is bm to the admins) 2. smurfing in WCG http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/409386-smurfing-at-wcg3. The very manner TSL payment post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117923+ Show Spoiler +OK SINCE NO ONE ANSERWS MY EMAILS AND HOTBID IS QUITE USELESS SAYING ITS NOT HIS RESPONSABILITY
I SENT MY BANK INFORMATION AROUND (2weeks ago?) they didnt even had the courtesy to anserw it back with atleast saying "we got ur bank information we will inform u whenever we send ur money" they did nothing about it i dont even know if im gonna get my money anytime since i dont see anyone helping me im gonna post it the forum to see if now i actually Get ansrwed by someone -__-? 4. The interesting "Maker is a thief" post (another admit to account sharing) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221804+ Show Spoiler +Hi everyone, this is sixjaxMajOr also know as "Juan/Gosi[Terran]. Basically I ran into a huge problem with checksix/Maker. Me and my "friend"(Maker) bought an account for smurfing and both paid half for it, whereas I used my credit card to buy it. Unfortunately it was discovered that I was a player on the account because people were accusing me of being a hacker, and the stats didn't make sense, etc. I played the majority of the games on this account and then suddenly Maker says he wants out of the deal even though we both paid half. He then changed the password to the account and set-up parental controls on the account so I can't gain access to it at all, not even through blizzard. He now wants his money back in exchange for the account, since he says the account is "wasted" now that it's revealed who wa son it (even though it's still Grandmasters account). So this whole time now he's been being a douchebag and avoiding me etc, and my friend ended up getting into some of his accounts in hopes of trying to find a way to get me back the account he stole. What's really pissing me off the most is that this team "checksix" is okay with what he's done, and is even backing him up on it (which is really quite fucking pathetic). They're not willing to do anything about it, and even are trying to somewhat threaten me with some weird shit claiming that what I'm doing/requesting is wrong etc. Really don't know what to do since Maker made all the account info his, and I don't know how to contact blizzard abut this specific problem. Tried scaling his e-mails for some information that might've been able to help me get into the account but there was nothing. Can anyone please give me an idea of what to do? This guy is such a scumbag really being such a thief, it's just pissing me off. Link to account: http://sc2ranks.com/us/2802903/LightTake in mind guys he literally only played from beggining to around master and like 10 games of masters - grandmasters the rest were all played by me 5. Short life with Root gaming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209881Includes a nice shot at his former team + Show Spoiler +On April 07 2011 19:42 sixjaxMajor wrote:
the fact that root sponsors are only trial sponsors aka advertise get nothing back i have deal with taht in the back why would i deal with it again when they obv wont support the team perhaps only IGN with something i cant do anything so i rather move to another team that there will be news soon 2-5 days which team i will be joining where i will actually get something of my effort and not deal with what my self call fake sponsors except for IGN 6. Dropping out of a showmatch series Special Endrey setup for him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244885¤tpage=4#80+ Show Spoiler +On July 18 2011 11:29 Special Endrey wrote:
Well I have some personal experience with major too. agreeing to play an event. i organized everything already then i wanted to talk about some details and suddenly he didnt want to play anymore.
major pulled a major major on me It has been a very busy 2011 for Major! Wow nice. Considering how much he's done, he's gotta be banned off of sixjax. And imo what he did here is by far worse than any of these - he fraudulently attempted to steal money from Dox under false pretenses, when Dox was trying to infuse money into the SEA Sc2 community that he could have easily kept for himself. I feel sorry for players from SEA ;/
My question at this point would be does Six Jax Gaming condone this behavior? Obviously on 6 different occasions they have not corrected him, so by default they're encouraging it?
There is no fine line with behavior like this, it's either not doing wrong, or doing wrong, and in this case he's doing wrong.
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On July 19 2011 05:58 mechavoc wrote:Interesting pattern of behavior here. A summary how those who do not want to read 50 + pages. 1. We have this activity with this SEA tournament. (Told he could not play so he smurfs on another account, lies about it and is bm to the admins) 2. smurfing in WCG http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/thread/409386-smurfing-at-wcg3. The very manner TSL payment post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=117923+ Show Spoiler +OK SINCE NO ONE ANSERWS MY EMAILS AND HOTBID IS QUITE USELESS SAYING ITS NOT HIS RESPONSABILITY
I SENT MY BANK INFORMATION AROUND (2weeks ago?) they didnt even had the courtesy to anserw it back with atleast saying "we got ur bank information we will inform u whenever we send ur money" they did nothing about it i dont even know if im gonna get my money anytime since i dont see anyone helping me im gonna post it the forum to see if now i actually Get ansrwed by someone -__-? 4. The interesting "Maker is a thief" post (another admit to account sharing) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=221804+ Show Spoiler +Hi everyone, this is sixjaxMajOr also know as "Juan/Gosi[Terran]. Basically I ran into a huge problem with checksix/Maker. Me and my "friend"(Maker) bought an account for smurfing and both paid half for it, whereas I used my credit card to buy it. Unfortunately it was discovered that I was a player on the account because people were accusing me of being a hacker, and the stats didn't make sense, etc. I played the majority of the games on this account and then suddenly Maker says he wants out of the deal even though we both paid half. He then changed the password to the account and set-up parental controls on the account so I can't gain access to it at all, not even through blizzard. He now wants his money back in exchange for the account, since he says the account is "wasted" now that it's revealed who wa son it (even though it's still Grandmasters account). So this whole time now he's been being a douchebag and avoiding me etc, and my friend ended up getting into some of his accounts in hopes of trying to find a way to get me back the account he stole. What's really pissing me off the most is that this team "checksix" is okay with what he's done, and is even backing him up on it (which is really quite fucking pathetic). They're not willing to do anything about it, and even are trying to somewhat threaten me with some weird shit claiming that what I'm doing/requesting is wrong etc. Really don't know what to do since Maker made all the account info his, and I don't know how to contact blizzard abut this specific problem. Tried scaling his e-mails for some information that might've been able to help me get into the account but there was nothing. Can anyone please give me an idea of what to do? This guy is such a scumbag really being such a thief, it's just pissing me off. Link to account: http://sc2ranks.com/us/2802903/LightTake in mind guys he literally only played from beggining to around master and like 10 games of masters - grandmasters the rest were all played by me 5. Short life with Root gaming, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=209881Includes a nice shot at his former team + Show Spoiler +On April 07 2011 19:42 sixjaxMajor wrote:
the fact that root sponsors are only trial sponsors aka advertise get nothing back i have deal with taht in the back why would i deal with it again when they obv wont support the team perhaps only IGN with something i cant do anything so i rather move to another team that there will be news soon 2-5 days which team i will be joining where i will actually get something of my effort and not deal with what my self call fake sponsors except for IGN 6. Dropping out of a showmatch series Special Endrey setup for him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=244885¤tpage=4#80+ Show Spoiler +On July 18 2011 11:29 Special Endrey wrote:
Well I have some personal experience with major too. agreeing to play an event. i organized everything already then i wanted to talk about some details and suddenly he didnt want to play anymore.
major pulled a major major on me It has been a very busy 2011 for Major!
Wow, these are quite some achievements.
Anyways, I don't think sixjax will drop him anytime soon. Despite what he has done, he is the best player on the team by far. In fact, I haven't even seen the other players play, except some show-games on artosis' youtube account.
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