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ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
July 18 2011 11:02 GMT
#281
cArn fighting! He will make it Code A without the invite!
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15359 Posts
July 18 2011 11:02 GMT
#282
I met cArn- when I had no idea who he was (and he probably doesn't know me either :-). At the time I couldn't even believe there was another foreigner just trying to qualify without a team, press, or in fact anybody knowing anything about him.

He is a great guy and I can only recommend everyone to tune into his stream for some gosu Terran action. All the best cArn- keep on fighting!
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
zachMEISTER
Profile Joined December 2010
United States625 Posts
July 18 2011 11:04 GMT
#283
same cArn from CS? I'm sorry, I just recognize aliases...
psillypsybic!
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 18 2011 11:25 GMT
#284
On July 18 2011 19:48 twiitar wrote:
Naruto just hating on cArn because cArn is better :V

Anyways, I wish you all the best cArn! You're an actual inspiration, seeing as how you gave it all up just to be able to play in the GSL! cArn hwaiting!!


How do I hate on cArn? I deeply respect his passion and that he devotes everything into the game. I wish I could play as much and with all the koreans, but I have my friends, family and I favor that over giving up my complete life, since I think I can train here and become a decent player as well.

No GSL champ nor anything, but on national and EU level at least. Seriously, some persons can't read it seems. I've never said anything bad about cArn.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
teehighsixsix
Profile Joined July 2011
1 Post
July 18 2011 11:38 GMT
#285
He deserves it more than Seth who got it god knows how.
But still, I think there should not be any seeds, ever.

Arnfasta
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States183 Posts
July 18 2011 11:40 GMT
#286
On July 18 2011 20:04 zachMEISTER wrote:
same cArn from CS? I'm sorry, I just recognize aliases...



It's a different Carn.

Also, I had a chance to meet Carn while I was in Korea last fall and it was really inspiring to see someone come from another country to follow their dreams (Carefoot and GimbleB included ) ). It's a daunting thing to move to a place with a very different culture, a foreign language(foreign to you), and not have a stable job or housing. Mad props to Carn.

He hasn't qualified for Code A but from what I've seen he's an incredible player; I really hope he shoots for it again. He's got my support.

And for those saying that not in Code A = bad player, I'd disagree. DRG by himself, to me at least, proves you can be a very talented player and have a difficult time in the qualifiers for Code A.

Having said that, I would argue against being gifted a spot in Code A for Carn. He's worked so hard for it, I feel like it cheapens all his work if he's just given the spot. He went to Korea to compete with the best of the best and be taken seriously as a competitive Starcraft II player. To achieve that ambition, he's gotta get through the qualifiers like any other Korean player.

Best of luck and hwaiting~~!

Maskedsatyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore1245 Posts
July 18 2011 12:19 GMT
#287
Damn didn't know he got kicked out of the GOM house. Props to him for his dedication though.
"Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!"
sickle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand656 Posts
July 18 2011 12:33 GMT
#288
On July 18 2011 19:34 cArn- wrote:
Ok I think I have to clarify some things so everyone is on the same page.

I played in 3 code A qualifiers :

The first was when Spades was here, I did terrible, lost 0-2 first round, wasn't prepared at all.

The second one, I had close to 2 weeks to prepare, and I remember HayprO and mOOnGLaDe played too. In this one I got to the semi-finals of my bracket, which is round 4 I believe, and lost. It was close series and lost because I made an error of judgement, didn't realise how far ahead I was in the first map and didn't go for the kill nor played safe so I got caught offguard by a very risky move.

The last one where FXO came, I was really expecting to qualify, I had more than a month to prepare and was practising hardcore all that time (that's when I started streaming often around 10-12 hours a day). However I botched it and lost 1-2 in round 2 against ZeNEXNaYa, and was furious about it. I won very easily my first set against a protoss 2-0, then played NaYa, won the first map easily, and then I was like oh my god this is so easy this time, I'm actually going to make it, but I let my nerves get the better of me in the rest of the series. He reacted in a completely unexpected way to my build, it threw me off, tried to adapt while my build doesn't even need to against what he did, and went on tilt. I was even more furious about myself when I found out who I was supposed to play in the next rounds, it was opponents that were not a problem for me usually. I SHOULD have qualified, but I didn't. This time it wasn't me misjudging ingame or anything, it was just me choking, and that's the worst feeling ever. I was about to finally make it but somehow managed to ruin it all.

Anyway that's how my attempts really went, up to you to decide whether it was good or not, for me it was obviously not good enough, only winning it all matters.

I'll just talk really fast about the seeding part. Yes, I'dd prefer by far to qualify myself using my skills as a player rather than the fact that I'm a foreigner in Korea. But no, I wouldn't say no to a free spot in code A, I've already been very close to qualify, I've beaten code A players, I've beaten code S players, I've beaten GSL champions. So yes, I KNOW that I can compete in code A and win games, in fact I'm way more confident about playing in code A than the qualifiers themselves.
Would it be fair for Koreans if I got seeded ? No. Was it fair when other foreigners got seeded, not really, and it's still not fair that other foreigners are getting seeded into code A.

Anyway, I have to say that I'm blown away to see this kind of support and really warms my heart. It just gives me even more reasons to do everything I can to actually make it, prove the ones who doubt me wrong, and make the ones who believe in me proud. I'm having a hard time cause I haven't been able to practice the last 2 weeks or so, but I'm gonna find a way to still make it happen. I have to.

Thanks everyone


cArn, I just want to say that you have immense support and respect from me. Your kind of dedication is exactly what forges champions. Know that not many people have even half of the willpower that you have. Sheth, for example, with the support of his team couldn't even last a month. Keep going for your dream man, I'm sure you will not only make it into code A this time, but you will become a true champion.

Also, I hope you enjoy this piece of inspirational music
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KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
July 18 2011 12:37 GMT
#289
I remember playing some practice games with you a long time ago. You have my support, keep fightin'!
England will fight to the last American
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 18 2011 12:42 GMT
#290
Did Artosis have an interview with cArn-? I might remember an interview from 2010 where Artosis interviewed a couple people. Is he an old shooter player? Starting to play SCII because it was more solo orientated?

Or was he the other guy Artosis interviewed? Or am I completely wrong here.

Anyway, if GSL doesn't work out. Maybe cArn- should try to play some foreigner tournaments now, and try to get picked up in a good foreign team. Then try for GSL again. Being alone in Korea sounds pretty scary.
I had a good night of sleep.
pAzand
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden539 Posts
July 18 2011 12:43 GMT
#291
Huge respect, didn't realize you stayed for this long, haven't watched your stream or anything but this kind of dedication will hopefully forge one of the best foreign terrans in the world, at least.
If you can chill.. Chill!
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
July 18 2011 12:46 GMT
#292
On July 16 2011 07:10 Otolia wrote:
It's funny how people trust the korean way. What will you do when he will come back in EU and get crushed ?

On a side note : Stop praising him, stupidity (yes it's stupid and selfish to leave your friends and your family behind to pursue your dream) should not be encourage. We don't need martyr, we need models. Being reckless and failing or being reckless and being offered a Coda A spot isn't what the scene needs. It needs more partnership, more joint trainings and more regional qualifiers.


That logic is so retarded that it's not even funny. cArn is a player who is trying to improve his game as much as possible, rather than playing for money. How is that selfish? How is that not being a role model for other players?

Like really, did you even think before you started typing that? cArn has nothing to do with "the scene," unless you're asking him to sit at home twiddling his thumbs playing with lower caliber players until we magically start making partnerships with Korean organizations; although it'd already be too late by then, as the Korean level of skill would have far surpassed the foreigners like it has/did in BW.

He definitely shouldn't have been kicked out of the GOM house. I don't believe free spots should be given to anyone out of pity or because they look like an amazing player - but to kick him out is definitely too much.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
July 18 2011 12:57 GMT
#293
I think it's bullshit, what OP is suggesting. If you haven't got the skill, you don't belong there. It's as simple as that.
bEwArE
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom121 Posts
July 18 2011 13:15 GMT
#294
On July 16 2011 05:50 FreezerJumps wrote:
If he doesn't win the qualifier, then he's not entitled to enter Code A. Lots of people have come close, but do they all deserve Code A spots? No.


Well what is the point of the 'Foreigner spot'? They don't need to go through the qualifiers do they.. I don't think cArn should just be gifted a spot in Code-A either but I do think he should be picked up by a team in Korea, wasn't he meant to join fOu a while back? Could mean something now that fOu is now FXO...
IMMVP #1 Terran
Herper
Profile Joined January 2011
501 Posts
July 18 2011 13:20 GMT
#295
On July 18 2011 22:15 bEwArE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 05:50 FreezerJumps wrote:
If he doesn't win the qualifier, then he's not entitled to enter Code A. Lots of people have come close, but do they all deserve Code A spots? No.


Well what is the point of the 'Foreigner spot'? They don't need to go through the qualifiers do they.. I don't think cArn should just be gifted a spot in Code-A either but I do think he should be picked up by a team in Korea, wasn't he meant to join fOu a while back? Could mean something now that fOu is now FXO...


I think I heard him say that he was in talk with the old fOu manager and that he was close to being part of the team then the old manager quit or something. Not to sure about the details, so take it with a grain of salt.
adRo.
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia243 Posts
July 18 2011 13:28 GMT
#296
Yes cArn has been trying really hard and I admire his courage. But he made the choice of going to Korea without any RTS experience. Just because he has been courageous doesn't mean we should all baby sit him. I feel this is all more charity then anything else >_>
i like turtles
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
July 18 2011 13:42 GMT
#297
On July 18 2011 21:42 Koshi wrote:
Did Artosis have an interview with cArn-? I might remember an interview from 2010 where Artosis interviewed a couple people. Is he an old shooter player? Starting to play SCII because it was more solo orientated?

Or was he the other guy Artosis interviewed? Or am I completely wrong here.

Anyway, if GSL doesn't work out. Maybe cArn- should try to play some foreigner tournaments now, and try to get picked up in a good foreign team. Then try for GSL again. Being alone in Korea sounds pretty scary.

it was one of the Open Season GSL Qualifiers Video. Either for GSL 1 or 2 (i believe it was 2).
bEwArE
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom121 Posts
July 18 2011 13:46 GMT
#298
On July 18 2011 22:20 Herper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 22:15 bEwArE wrote:
On July 16 2011 05:50 FreezerJumps wrote:
If he doesn't win the qualifier, then he's not entitled to enter Code A. Lots of people have come close, but do they all deserve Code A spots? No.


Well what is the point of the 'Foreigner spot'? They don't need to go through the qualifiers do they.. I don't think cArn should just be gifted a spot in Code-A either but I do think he should be picked up by a team in Korea, wasn't he meant to join fOu a while back? Could mean something now that fOu is now FXO...


I think I heard him say that he was in talk with the old fOu manager and that he was close to being part of the team then the old manager quit or something. Not to sure about the details, so take it with a grain of salt.


Ok, thanks for that
IMMVP #1 Terran
macncheezeplz
Profile Joined June 2011
United States93 Posts
July 18 2011 19:13 GMT
#299
On July 16 2011 05:47 MasterReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 05:43 Naniwa wrote:
effort doesnt equal results nor being good.


Being away only one Bo3 from qualifiying for Code A is a result that many other foreigners cant achieve.
You have to be good to come that far.


For that he deserves a code A spot as much or more than any other foreigner.
Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
July 18 2011 19:15 GMT
#300
Just in time for the increased size of the code A qualifiers
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
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