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OooLong
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada98 Posts
July 15 2011 07:58 GMT
#61
I also like to know you haven't mentioned, what's Seoul like in Korea? how are they compare to say NewYork or other big city in america? are they as amazing as people say?
Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
July 15 2011 08:00 GMT
#62
Awesome write-up!
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 08:02:48
July 15 2011 08:00 GMT
#63
this is my opinion

good casters can carry a bad set of games/matches SO FAR and a lot of it has to do with the side banter/jokes that may or may not be related to the actual game taking place.

maintaining a sense of professionalism is important but so is being able to maintain the entertainment value for the viewers. when a game isn't providing enough quality content to keep up a certain degree of entertainment, the source for entertainment tends to have to come from the casters to keep the audience interested and maintaining professionalism isn't always the best course to keep the audience interested.

I have no idea what the Korean audience desires from their casters, but I wouldn't be surprised if caster expectations are different between Korean & western audiences.
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 08:03:13
July 15 2011 08:02 GMT
#64
I love Korea, and so should every gamer out there. Without Korea, gaming is just a hobby.

Great post, but especially, great quote. Much respect to you and your team for doing what you do.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
July 15 2011 08:04 GMT
#65
On July 15 2011 16:58 OooLong wrote:
I also like to know you haven't mentioned, what's Seoul like in Korea? how are they compare to say NewYork or other big city in america? are they as amazing as people say?


Seoul is extremely friendly. Although we were not in seoul (i was for 2 days but thats something else) I can say that the people are great throughout korea. From incheon to seoul... Gimpo etc. Its just an amazing place for foreigners.

That being said, you asked me to compare to new york. And being a trader, new york is my bread and butter. So its hard to compare the two Both are great.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
July 15 2011 08:08 GMT
#66
i'm sure that if tgun was a transvestite, he would be the prettiest one out there.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
July 15 2011 08:11 GMT
#67
On July 15 2011 16:17 IcedBacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
Thirdly English casting.
Although 90% of the time the english cast is done well, there are a bunch of things that need to change. The cast needs to be more scheduled and less random. The crappy jokes need to stop (not the good ones, just the crappy ones). Heres a pointer, if you are laughing mid joke at your own joke, its probably not funny. It also needs to bring more insight into the game, more facts more figures and probably a 3rd person.


...Talk to Wolf and Unstable? :p JK. Anyways, Tastosis is the most loved commentary duo by the foreigners, nothing needs to change. Sure there's some bad jokes and awkard moments but part of a caster's job is to be able to fill in time with random banter. It happens at MLG (even moreso), Dreamhack, IEM, whatever. Not really something to complain about.

With that aside, nice writeup and glad everyone enjoys/enjoyed it there.


Well ideally they should be talking about the game, I think the Koreans talk more about the game and joke less. Correct me if I'm wrong. Not to say that the joking is not entertaining though.

Also, I agree the casters can be better. Tastosis keep premature GG'ing. That's not fun. It just shows a hint of disrespect to the player (for saying that they have lost the game, while the player himself has not yet decided to type GG), and it destroys "hype". A casters job is to analyze/explain the game and make things more interesting, not to tell the player "ok, I think he's going to give up now". Sure, every now and then is OK in some situations, but they do it almost every single game "Expect GG any second now." Like I mean, why would I want to expect that? I want to hope for an epic comeback, y'know? xD
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DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
July 15 2011 08:13 GMT
#68
everything is fine but I dont agree at all with the criticism to the casting archon. they are professional they know when to stop some jokes, and artosis game analysis is really good.
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Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
July 15 2011 08:14 GMT
#69
rofl I don't remember tGun looking that feminine in the booth, great writeup
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
-Cyrus-
Profile Joined June 2011
United States318 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 08:20:24
July 15 2011 08:16 GMT
#70
I know this might not exactly be related to Korea and your experience there, but I must say that it's really awesome to see how much effort FXO is putting into Starcraft and the community behind it. Even though FXO hasn't had the best performance in Korea just yet, I think most everyone can see that FXO has the potential to do really well and I think that in a few months FXO can easily be a top foreign team whether still in Korea or not.

Everything you guys are doing for the community is just great too... the casting, the shows, everything. You guys are really showing that you care about the community a lot and I think it's a really positive thing for everyone. Not many teams show the same kind of passion for the game and the community that FXO does and that's why I think that you guys deserve a lot of respect. Thanks a lot for what you guys have done so far and keep up the good work!
Mvz
Profile Joined April 2003
206 Posts
July 15 2011 08:16 GMT
#71
Yeah I agree with you Boss about foreign casters, it's just to little strategy talk and talk about players and playstyle overall imo. But then again, we don't really have those kind of people to give us that. We have Artosis and Day9 and Tasteless is somewhat still stuck in BW and doesn't contribute much when it comes to Starcraft 2 related things like Artosis does.

Also, tell Wolf to stop with his ladder stories. ^~^
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 15 2011 08:19 GMT
#72
Wait FXO is leaving Korea?
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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
July 15 2011 08:22 GMT
#73
On July 15 2011 17:19 EchoZ wrote:
Wait FXO is leaving Korea?

After they play all their GSTL matches, yes.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
July 15 2011 08:22 GMT
#74
On July 15 2011 17:19 EchoZ wrote:
Wait FXO is leaving Korea?


I left korea a week ago, because I have 4 businesses to run.

FXO are still in korea, Most will leave after code A quals if they dont qualify. SLog Oz QXC will stay until 30th August.

Then slog oz to malaysia and qxc to university.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
July 15 2011 08:23 GMT
#75
The only thing I really dislike about Artosis and Tasteless is, for example from the Super Tournament they give so much praise to a player like Nestea for almost staging a comeback in the games he lost to TOP but they gave no credit to a player to TOP they resorted to saying that TOP cheesed Nestea out of the tournament... They couldn't just say TOP was the better player in the series or he outplayed him? Since Tastosis is so popular their opinion affects how they react to the player, so a lot of people also started bashing TOP.

I may sound like a TOP fanboy with this post... well good because I am one.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
July 15 2011 08:23 GMT
#76
Thirdly English casting.
Although 90% of the time the english cast is done well, there are a bunch of things that need to change. The cast needs to be more scheduled and less random. The crappy jokes need to stop (not the good ones, just the crappy ones). Heres a pointer, if you are laughing mid joke at your own joke, its probably not funny. It also needs to bring more insight into the game, more facts more figures and probably a 3rd person.

Funny that you'd say that when your casters are the ones most guilty of it. That being said, I actually like the jokes (stupid as they are), but I 100% agree with everything else.

Thanks for the insight on Korea! What stood out most to me was probably the comparison of KR plat to NA masters and KR mid masters to NA grandmasters. Damn.
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 08:25:30
July 15 2011 08:24 GMT
#77
On July 15 2011 17:22 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 17:19 EchoZ wrote:
Wait FXO is leaving Korea?


I left korea a week ago, because I have 4 businesses to run.

FXO are still in korea, Most will leave after code A quals if they dont qualify. SLog Oz QXC will stay until 30th August.

Then slog oz to malaysia and qxc to university.


What do you mean by that most will leave? Does that mean some will stay?

On July 15 2011 17:23 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
Thirdly English casting.
Although 90% of the time the english cast is done well, there are a bunch of things that need to change. The cast needs to be more scheduled and less random. The crappy jokes need to stop (not the good ones, just the crappy ones). Heres a pointer, if you are laughing mid joke at your own joke, its probably not funny. It also needs to bring more insight into the game, more facts more figures and probably a 3rd person.

Funny that you'd say that when your casters are the ones most guilty of it. That being said, I actually like the jokes (stupid as they are), but I 100% agree with everything else.

Thanks for the insight on Korea! What stood out most to me was probably the comparison of KR plat to NA masters and KR mid masters to NA grandmasters. Damn.



Yes, but FXOpen said the bad jokes were maining Wolf's fault.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
July 15 2011 08:24 GMT
#78
On July 15 2011 17:22 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 17:19 EchoZ wrote:
Wait FXO is leaving Korea?


I left korea a week ago, because I have 4 businesses to run.

FXO are still in korea, Most will leave after code A quals if they dont qualify. SLog Oz QXC will stay until 30th August.

Then slog oz to malaysia and qxc to university.


Oh, they're trying to qualify again? Sweet!
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
July 15 2011 08:24 GMT
#79
On July 15 2011 17:24 skrzmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 17:22 FXOpen wrote:
On July 15 2011 17:19 EchoZ wrote:
Wait FXO is leaving Korea?


I left korea a week ago, because I have 4 businesses to run.

FXO are still in korea, Most will leave after code A quals if they dont qualify. SLog Oz QXC will stay until 30th August.

Then slog oz to malaysia and qxc to university.


What do you mean by that most will leave? Does that mean some will stay?


Its kinda written whats happening in that section of text
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
July 15 2011 08:26 GMT
#80
On July 15 2011 17:24 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 17:24 skrzmark wrote:
On July 15 2011 17:22 FXOpen wrote:
On July 15 2011 17:19 EchoZ wrote:
Wait FXO is leaving Korea?


I left korea a week ago, because I have 4 businesses to run.

FXO are still in korea, Most will leave after code A quals if they dont qualify. SLog Oz QXC will stay until 30th August.

Then slog oz to malaysia and qxc to university.


What do you mean by that most will leave? Does that mean some will stay?


Its kinda written whats happening in that section of text


Derp.
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
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