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moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
July 15 2011 07:15 GMT
#21
On July 15 2011 16:10 FXOpen wrote:
Slog and OZ will join me in Malaysia end of August, and then team will come slowly to the house... Its ready Just people have ot sort their lives.


I stayed in KL for 4 years, lovely city to live in. Sounds like the players will have a good time ahead of them, assuming you don't crack the whip too hard.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
July 15 2011 07:17 GMT
#22
On July 15 2011 16:13 FXOpen wrote:
Azzur, the house is a little out of the way, but its possible providing I am in Malaysia personally. We can arrange a net cafe meet up with some of the Malaysia community if you like. Private room net cafe etc.

Sounds great! I'll contact you closer to time to check if you're available
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 07:18:11
July 15 2011 07:17 GMT
#23
Thirdly English casting.
Although 90% of the time the english cast is done well, there are a bunch of things that need to change. The cast needs to be more scheduled and less random. The crappy jokes need to stop (not the good ones, just the crappy ones). Heres a pointer, if you are laughing mid joke at your own joke, its probably not funny. It also needs to bring more insight into the game, more facts more figures and probably a 3rd person.


...Talk to Wolf and Unstable? :p JK. Anyways, Tastosis is the most loved commentary duo by the foreigners, nothing needs to change. Sure there's some bad jokes and awkard moments but part of a caster's job is to be able to fill in time with random banter. It happens at MLG (even moreso), Dreamhack, IEM, whatever. Not really something to complain about.

With that aside, nice writeup and glad everyone enjoys/enjoyed it there.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
ExPresident
Profile Joined January 2010
United States215 Posts
July 15 2011 07:17 GMT
#24
This was a great read, thank you so much for posting it. I really enjoy write ups like this. Awesome read.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
July 15 2011 07:19 GMT
#25
The qualifiers seems so intense, next qualifiers will include:
MMA, boxer, puma, ace, squirtle, sage, hero, DRG, san

On July 15 2011 15:41 FXOpen wrote:
Highlight: Watching FXOz's bracket and noticing that if he were to qualify, he would have to play PVP EVERY GAME to make Code A.... If he didnt lose to creator prime, his opponent would have been NEXPuzzle. Thats just the way the cookie crumbles



wasn't creator already in code a?
you live and you learn
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
July 15 2011 07:20 GMT
#26
On July 15 2011 16:17 IcedBacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
Thirdly English casting.
Although 90% of the time the english cast is done well, there are a bunch of things that need to change. The cast needs to be more scheduled and less random. The crappy jokes need to stop (not the good ones, just the crappy ones). Heres a pointer, if you are laughing mid joke at your own joke, its probably not funny. It also needs to bring more insight into the game, more facts more figures and probably a 3rd person.


...Talk to Wolf and Unstable? :p Tastosis is the most loved commentary duo by the foreigners, nothing needs to change. Sure there's some bad jokes and awkard moments but part of a caster's job is to be able to fill in time with random banter. It happens at MLG (even moreso), Dreamhack, IEM, whatever. Not really something to complain about.

With that aside, nice writeup and glad everyone enjoys/enjoyed it there.


You just proved my point

The random banter moments are only happening in foreign events. Koreans dont seem to have those moments.

I love artosis and tasteless, consider them great people, and as my friends. But they do have moments of the 10%.

Unstable is probably the least 'joking' of the casters out there but has other things to fix. I am working on a few things with him as we speak. Wolf has the joke problem. Doa, moletrap, kelly, pretty much every foreign caster really. Basically, my point is, when pitching sc2 to someone who isn't from SC2, they dont care if its tastosis, or even me commentating, the dumb jokes just make it look unprofessional... Hence my view they have to stop.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
July 15 2011 07:21 GMT
#27
On July 15 2011 16:19 illsick wrote:
The qualifiers seems so intense, next qualifiers will include:
MMA, boxer, puma, ace, squirtle, sage, hero, DRG, san

Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 15:41 FXOpen wrote:
Highlight: Watching FXOz's bracket and noticing that if he were to qualify, he would have to play PVP EVERY GAME to make Code A.... If he didnt lose to creator prime, his opponent would have been NEXPuzzle. Thats just the way the cookie crumbles



wasn't creator already in code a?


Sorry I meant classic. I'll edit.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10343 Posts
July 15 2011 07:24 GMT
#28
Wow amazing read, thank you !!!

LOL Flameguns

LOL bench xD

very insightful xD Not surprising tho
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
July 15 2011 07:25 GMT
#29
great writeup.
Im korean but i never went to korea.
I really want to go
especially because i want to see snsd
Blitz Beat
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 07:28:39
July 15 2011 07:26 GMT
#30
I hope / wish that more western teams take that journey to Korea for at least a month (I'm sure GOM would help out with housing!). There are a lot of western pros who assume and say "we know what the koreans do, we know what we need to do, we're just fine" but as the results of every recent major tournament shows, western teams (outside of Team Liquid) really don't. Kudos to you guys at FXO for taking action rather than just talking about practicing and improving. Although the results weren't the best, I'm sure the team has learned a lot and the experience will definitely help you guys out in the long run.

Off Topic: Whatever happened to Moonglade? He seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 15 2011 07:27 GMT
#31
Oh man, I totally agree with you about the jokes. I think Wolf tries a bit too hard (sorry wolf), for example yesterday's "ladies and Pumas"...that he had to explain to get his cocaster to understand...being funny is fine, but I think that lately GSL has been on a tear of "color" commentators and they're all trying to be funnier than each other. At some point I just want an Artosis-style cast, just drop some knowledge.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
July 15 2011 07:27 GMT
#32
On July 15 2011 16:17 IcedBacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
Thirdly English casting.
Although 90% of the time the english cast is done well, there are a bunch of things that need to change. The cast needs to be more scheduled and less random. The crappy jokes need to stop (not the good ones, just the crappy ones). Heres a pointer, if you are laughing mid joke at your own joke, its probably not funny. It also needs to bring more insight into the game, more facts more figures and probably a 3rd person.


...Talk to Wolf and Unstable? :p JK. Anyways, Tastosis is the most loved commentary duo by the foreigners, nothing needs to change. Sure there's some bad jokes and awkard moments but part of a caster's job is to be able to fill in time with random banter. It happens at MLG (even moreso), Dreamhack, IEM, whatever. Not really something to complain about.

With that aside, nice writeup and glad everyone enjoys/enjoyed it there.

The main problem I have with the English casting is how they talk down to the players. Most casters are guilty of this, but especially Wolf, and most of the time he's not even strategically correct. I can hardly remember a game where he doesn't say how bad a certain player was when he's missing a drop in the main or just doesn't understand exactly what it is the player is doing. I don't mind a player being criticized when he is making blatant mistakes, but I do mind a player being criticized for the simple fact that he lost a battle, or is falling behind in the game when they are competing against some of the best players in the world.
$♥$
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
July 15 2011 07:28 GMT
#33
After reading all of this, from this day forward FXOBoss shall be known as FXODad
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
July 15 2011 07:30 GMT
#34
The most unwarranted self important content i've read for some time, thankfully FXO players are infinitely more pleasant.
iNViCiOUZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany364 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 07:33:39
July 15 2011 07:30 GMT
#35
Nice read! very interessting experience about korean esports!

On July 15 2011 15:41 FXOpen wrote:
Thanks to TL, RAZER, Redbull, Coca cola, Mountain Dew, Asus and all our other partners for supporting us through this journey.


Supporting with more then great drinks?

Edit: And I agree with Boss about the jokes.
Especial on NASL where they had a loooot of time between games. The jokes was most times very silly. Yes sometimes they where great but most times it was unprofessional
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
July 15 2011 07:30 GMT
#36
On July 15 2011 16:20 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 16:17 IcedBacon wrote:
Thirdly English casting.
Although 90% of the time the english cast is done well, there are a bunch of things that need to change. The cast needs to be more scheduled and less random. The crappy jokes need to stop (not the good ones, just the crappy ones). Heres a pointer, if you are laughing mid joke at your own joke, its probably not funny. It also needs to bring more insight into the game, more facts more figures and probably a 3rd person.


...Talk to Wolf and Unstable? :p Tastosis is the most loved commentary duo by the foreigners, nothing needs to change. Sure there's some bad jokes and awkard moments but part of a caster's job is to be able to fill in time with random banter. It happens at MLG (even moreso), Dreamhack, IEM, whatever. Not really something to complain about.

With that aside, nice writeup and glad everyone enjoys/enjoyed it there.


You just proved my point

The random banter moments are only happening in foreign events. Koreans dont seem to have those moments.

I love artosis and tasteless, consider them great people, and as my friends. But they do have moments of the 10%.

Unstable is probably the least 'joking' of the casters out there but has other things to fix. I am working on a few things with him as we speak. Wolf has the joke problem. Doa, moletrap, kelly, pretty much every foreign caster really. Basically, my point is, when pitching sc2 to someone who isn't from SC2, they dont care if its tastosis, or even me commentating, the dumb jokes just make it look unprofessional... Hence my view they have to stop.


Isn't that part of how things work in the West though? In sports there's plenty of breaks between plays, intermissions, whatever and the broadcasters will sometimes go off on a tangent or make a joke here and then. There will always be downtime and there's only so much you can say about previous games, the player, their team, whatever. There are some moments I wish Tasteless would cut his story short and start talking about something the observer just scrolled across in-game early on but the rest is enjoyable.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
July 15 2011 07:32 GMT
#37
I have always wondered how long it would take for somebody to be set ablaze by the flame guns in the studio.

Thanks for the write up man, its nice to read what FXO has been up to.
gg wp
Get.Midikem
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden312 Posts
July 15 2011 07:32 GMT
#38
Great read, would love if you got some in your team to write another story like this.
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
July 15 2011 07:33 GMT
#39
Will Oz's skill level go down when he moves away from Korea?
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
July 15 2011 07:33 GMT
#40
On July 15 2011 16:33 skrzmark wrote:
Will Oz's skill level go down when he moves away from Korea?


Malaysia has no lag to korea, so i doubt it.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
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