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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 16:36:33
July 12 2011 16:32 GMT
#441
Why didn't they just leave LA and RU where they were? Both of those regions are notorious for lag issues and cheating. All of the good players who were good to have on NA/EU had already bought accounts there.

edit: Gonna assume that this is intended to cut costs of server maintenence. There is probably a lot of overhead with keeping a server running, regardless of how many people are using it, and EU/NA/KR probably had the capacity to continue running just fine despite the increased population.

I'm also hoping that they are making some level of upgrades to their server software/hardware to give them the confidence.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
July 12 2011 16:36 GMT
#442
God damnit, all we ever cared for was NA/EU. Splitting EU and Russia apart was great for Europeans, as Russians hardly speak English, often use another alphabet, lag, flame and most of all cheat Anyone who has played WC3 knows what I'm talking about.

Does the KR/TW linking mean that it'll be easier to obtain an KR account now?
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
July 12 2011 16:38 GMT
#443
SEA will probably never be linked with other regions, SEA has a dedicated server, whereas the other regions (LA and RU and taiwan)have already used existing servers on NA,EU and KR, the only separation was the ladder, so merging them will be a soft change.

But there is a separate server present for sea, hence linking them to other regions will be a lot more complex, because one set of people connect to the SEA server,whereas the people you are linking to use another server...so how do they then play? pc connects to server, and then the servers pass information between each other, and then the server connects to the other person ? That seems like might cause a lot of problems.

But playing with the koreans would be a lot of fun(even if it is at a higher latency), would be happy if they find a way to do it
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
July 12 2011 16:40 GMT
#444
On July 13 2011 01:36 EmilA wrote:
God damnit, all we ever cared for was NA/EU. Splitting EU and Russia apart was great for Europeans, as Russians hardly speak English, often use another alphabet, lag, flame and most of all cheat Anyone who has played WC3 knows what I'm talking about.

Does the KR/TW linking mean that it'll be easier to obtain an KR account now?


Yeah, I came from WC3 as well, and even though I try not to stereotype, it was downright staggering what a large % of Russian players in leagues/ladder would be BM and map hack. Definitely a really unique situation where it was a reputation very much deserved.

And yes, it is easier to play on the KR server now. Unlike a Korean SSN, the "NID" thing required for TW gaming is very easy to obtain. There are generators out there and I myself have already easily made a TW Bnet account. From there, you can either order the game online or you can purchase what seem to be TW "game points" that you are able to use to buy games. The TW version of SC2 costs roughly $65 when you convert their currency to USD. I'm still not entirely positive on how you buy these game cards, and I'm still not sure it is money I want to spend, but it is totally doable. I'm sure some people will post more detailed explanations of how to get these game cards.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
July 12 2011 16:43 GMT
#445
i dont really see that big of an issue simply because i was around back when everyone played on iccup which was an international server that all countries played in. i held no gripes about it then, so i dont really see it being a problem here either
birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
July 12 2011 16:55 GMT
#446
I was hoping for NA + EU or NA + KR
DruidzHistory
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden231 Posts
July 12 2011 16:59 GMT
#447
On July 12 2011 23:24 SiEtE420 wrote:
Im so happy that I wont have to play the same guy 5 times in a row at 4am


I still get to play the same guy 4 times+ and i'm on EU. :p
Macibax
Profile Joined March 2011
33 Posts
July 12 2011 17:01 GMT
#448
On July 12 2011 01:23 Wr3k wrote:
Oh god... it begins.

BR?.. BR! give wins plz! HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE.

+ Show Spoiler +
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Seriously though, as long as this doesn't cause lag issues I don't see an issue with it.



LOL, that's really funny. I know not everyone is like that (there are douchebags in every country), but i have to admint that at least in mmorpgs, that's more or less true.
Gardel
Profile Joined April 2011
Mexico220 Posts
July 12 2011 18:16 GMT
#449
On July 12 2011 01:27 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
I wonder how this will affect players in Russia and LA (I believe LA has it as well) who have a $3.49 monthly fee to play the game.

Will it be abolished or will it stay, or will they go crazy and make everyone pay? OMGZ!


We have an option to fully activate it, but that option will stay as well. Btw, it was 30 usd for me full version of sc and I can now challenge na players too
"And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." Abraham Lincoln.
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 18:20:40
July 12 2011 18:18 GMT
#450
On July 13 2011 01:32 Mohdoo wrote:
Why didn't they just leave LA and RU where they were? Both of those regions are notorious for lag issues and cheating. All of the good players who were good to have on NA/EU had already bought accounts there.

edit: Gonna assume that this is intended to cut costs of server maintenence. There is probably a lot of overhead with keeping a server running, regardless of how many people are using it, and EU/NA/KR probably had the capacity to continue running just fine despite the increased population.

I'm also hoping that they are making some level of upgrades to their server software/hardware to give them the confidence.

Would you please show some information you gathered to post this position?
As a LA player, I haven't found cheating nor lag, plus, LA server is held in the same server as NA one afaik.

You're just stating your personal thoughts, they may be valid, but you have no proof to show that LA or RU is a massive cheater/lagger community, it depends on the ISP mostly, so, it's different for every player, at least, for me, I never had lag/cheat issues in LA.

Just one week for the server merging and get positioned on silver probably :D.



On July 12 2011 01:27 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
I wonder how this will affect players in Russia and LA (I believe LA has it as well) who have a $3.49 monthly fee to play the game.

Will it be abolished or will it stay, or will they go crazy and make everyone pay? OMGZ!


Just as the guy said above, you can choose to get your account to illimited too, afaik you can pay it in dollars or CLP (chilean pesos).
Barackopala
Gardel
Profile Joined April 2011
Mexico220 Posts
July 12 2011 18:20 GMT
#451
On July 12 2011 02:56 wattabeast wrote:
This is gonna be great for LA, TW, and RU! These previously desolate servers will find a new life ^,^

I am so happy man FINALLY
"And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." Abraham Lincoln.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 18:25:44
July 12 2011 18:22 GMT
#452
About RU lag, i've heard white-ra say multiple times that "i lags 5 seconds few time" He will warn his opponents on his stream. Then occasionally someone will retort, "just your clever special tactics hey".

I cant speak from personal experience, but my family (step mom bro and sis) are all fresh from Ukraine and hated the internet reliability there (and natural gas reliability). Plus Russia is notorious for pirating games, all the cracks usually end up near cheats, so it's natural that they use them more often. Plus many Russian sites are not as widely viewed by Blizzard so they get hack detections less frequently.
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Jarvs
Profile Joined December 2009
Australia639 Posts
July 12 2011 18:24 GMT
#453
Can someone explain to me how this won't affect ping?
From the description in the FAQ, players still go through the same servers, right? But then the servers have to transfer data to each other.
Let's say there is a 50ms ping between the RU and the EU server. Won't this just add 50ms to every game when people are playing across servers?
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
July 12 2011 18:29 GMT
#454
On July 13 2011 03:24 Jarvs wrote:
Can someone explain to me how this won't affect ping?
From the description in the FAQ, players still go through the same servers, right? But then the servers have to transfer data to each other.
Let's say there is a 50ms ping between the RU and the EU server. Won't this just add 50ms to every game when people are playing across servers?



The servers are hosted in the same physical location.

They will be shutting one "shard" off, and all RU accounts will become EU accounts.
There won't be 2 separate servers in the sense you are thinking.
bo0
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium550 Posts
July 12 2011 18:31 GMT
#455
I've played on WoW pservers before and dear god russians scare the crap out of me

obviously this is just a stereotype, I've talked to normal russians before

There was a point where literally 90% of the chat I saw was russian. This on a server with several thousands of people online simultaneously. How many times I've been whispered "rus? )))"....
The worst part is, you can't ask them anything. When you have a noobie teammate in 2v2-4v4 atleast right now you can explain to him what to do or help him, but it's really frustrating when you can't even read what he's saying

I'm just hoping this won't impact SC2 too much
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
July 12 2011 18:51 GMT
#456
On July 13 2011 03:22 Phayze wrote:
About RU lag, i've heard white-ra say multiple times that "i lags 5 seconds few time" He will warn his opponents on his stream. Then occasionally someone will retort, "just your clever special tactics hey".

I cant speak from personal experience, but my family (step mom bro and sis) are all fresh from Ukraine and hated the internet reliability there (and natural gas reliability). Plus Russia is notorious for pirating games, all the cracks usually end up near cheats, so it's natural that they use them more often. Plus many Russian sites are not as widely viewed by Blizzard so they get hack detections less frequently.

China won the title this time, I heard they made a SC2 LAN-mode (not sure if call it cheating or hacking anyways...).
Barackopala
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
July 12 2011 19:02 GMT
#457
On July 13 2011 03:31 Meancookie wrote:
I've played on WoW pservers before and dear god russians scare the crap out of me

obviously this is just a stereotype, I've talked to normal russians before

There was a point where literally 90% of the chat I saw was russian. This on a server with several thousands of people online simultaneously. How many times I've been whispered "rus? )))"....
The worst part is, you can't ask them anything. When you have a noobie teammate in 2v2-4v4 atleast right now you can explain to him what to do or help him, but it's really frustrating when you can't even read what he's saying

I'm just hoping this won't impact SC2 too much

Uhm sir meancookie, you have stated two pretty big errors about the community you've been with:

1.- WoW is a pretty "variable" game, where most of the time you'll find BM people, or you might find pretty nice people who like to play PvE and PvP nicely and be friendly... or you might find a lot of elitist players that hate you for not being "propperly equiped" for A-B-C encounter.

2.- Keep in mind you played on a P-SERVER, when you play on a P-Server you WILL find a lot of hackers-botters and stuff... sure, it still happens at blizz, but on a smaller scale... and gamemasters will probably bann them asap.

Most people that play SC2 know how to read english, if they don't know, then do a "premade" 2v2/3v3/4v4?... it's the only viable way i can figure out to play as fine as you always want.
Barackopala
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 12 2011 19:05 GMT
#458
It seems strange that they are doing this. They are combining more languages onto one server, so now it is more likely that people won't be able to communicate in team games. I think a much better solution would be to have it like in sc1 and wc3 where you can pick your server. Ideally you could pick it from all across the world, because people are already playing across the world anyway, but in this case they could just have it so that Europeans could pick the Europe server or the Russian server. Koreans can pick the Korean server or the Taiwanese. That way people can have access to the different regions, but it would still be easier to play with people who speak your language when you pick your own server.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
July 12 2011 19:42 GMT
#459
This just means Taiwanese, Latin American, and Russian servers were to costly to justify the small population so they're merging them with popular near-by servers.

Blizzard won't add cross-region support for Eu-Na-Kr til they squeeze every penny they can out of lack of cross region play.
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PiLoKo
Profile Joined January 2011
Mexico144 Posts
July 12 2011 20:41 GMT
#460
On July 13 2011 01:32 Mohdoo wrote:
Why didn't they just leave LA and RU where they were? Both of those regions are notorious for lag issues and cheating. All of the good players who were good to have on NA/EU had already bought accounts there.

edit: Gonna assume that this is intended to cut costs of server maintenence. There is probably a lot of overhead with keeping a server running, regardless of how many people are using it, and EU/NA/KR probably had the capacity to continue running just fine despite the increased population.

I'm also hoping that they are making some level of upgrades to their server software/hardware to give them the confidence.


This is just pure ignorance and racism, LA is no where near to have more lag than NA nor they have that reputation, just so you know, LA and NA share the same servers, and your assumption is wrong, LA has been begging for the linking from the very first month of SC2.
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