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Anders302
Profile Joined January 2011
United States13 Posts
July 13 2011 08:24 GMT
#481
About time i can play with my other friends.. =p
I am and always will be learning - Ibrahimovic
brrrtmn
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation154 Posts
July 13 2011 09:05 GMT
#482
my tracert to EU server:

Трассировка маршрута к eu.logon.battle.net [213.248.127.130]
с максимальным числом прыжков 30:

1 <1 мс <1 мс <1 мс 217.195.208.82
2 <1 мс <1 мс <1 мс 194.186.39.93
3 <1 мс <1 мс <1 мс 194.186.39.93
4 84 ms 96 ms 98 ms ethernet15-1.ar4.fra4.gblx.net [64.208.222.201]

5 74 ms 74 ms 74 ms ae8.scr3.FRA4.gblx.net [67.16.145.237]
6 75 ms 75 ms 137 ms po5.ar2.FRA4.gblx.net [67.16.133.234]
7 74 ms 74 ms 75 ms ffm-b7-link.telia.net [213.248.89.181]
8 74 ms 74 ms 75 ms ffm-b6-link.telia.net [80.91.250.86]
9 * * * Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.
10 * * * Превышен интервал ожидания для запроса.

i don't think 75ms it's huge delay,and i'm from Siberia,so from european part of Russia,ping will be 40-50ms,can europeans post their tracert pls?
Voli
Profile Joined July 2011
Russian Federation5 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 09:16:23
July 13 2011 09:15 GMT
#483
Why are you guys scared/dissapointed about EU/RU merging? Believe me, there are plenty of dickheads in every region, as well as a huge portion of really nice people.
As for the lag issues, I play on both european and russian servers and I notice zero latency changes. Most of the russian ISPs work perfectly well with european segment so please don't worry about this lag stereotype.
ps: Putin Vodka Perestroika
Daniello
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 09:18:02
July 13 2011 09:17 GMT
#484
brrrtmn here you go:
+ Show Spoiler +
C:\Users\Daniel>tracert eu.logon.battle.net

Tracing route to eu.logon.battle.net [213.248.127.130]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms Rozanka.Korbank.Pl [79.110.198.254]
2 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms Rozanka.Korbank.Pl [79.110.198.254]
3 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms alyssa.static.korbank.pl [193.239.56.214]
4 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms z-atman-global.korbank.pl [193.111.38.225]
5 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms r5.global-ae1-r7.global.atman.pl [212.91.9.73]
6 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms war-b2-link.telia.net [80.239.133.109]
7 35 ms 34 ms 35 ms ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [213.155.131.96]
8 34 ms 35 ms 44 ms ffm-b10-link.telia.net [213.155.130.120]
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
July 13 2011 10:11 GMT
#485
Im not fussed at all with the EU/RU merge. Yes there were some lag issues sometimes but Russians were quite good mannered in iccup so thats fine.
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
July 13 2011 10:12 GMT
#486
On July 13 2011 18:15 Voli wrote:
As for the lag issues, I play on both european and russian servers and I notice zero latency changes. Most of the russian ISPs work perfectly well with european segment so please don't worry about this lag stereotype.
ps: Putin Vodka Perestroika


Aren't EU and RU servers hosted in the same data-center anyway?
Such flammable little insects!
Nightmare1795
Profile Joined June 2011
United States222 Posts
July 13 2011 10:18 GMT
#487
On July 13 2011 05:41 PiLoKo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 01:32 Mohdoo wrote:
Why didn't they just leave LA and RU where they were? Both of those regions are notorious for lag issues and cheating. All of the good players who were good to have on NA/EU had already bought accounts there.

edit: Gonna assume that this is intended to cut costs of server maintenence. There is probably a lot of overhead with keeping a server running, regardless of how many people are using it, and EU/NA/KR probably had the capacity to continue running just fine despite the increased population.

I'm also hoping that they are making some level of upgrades to their server software/hardware to give them the confidence.


This is just pure ignorance and racism, LA is no where near to have more lag than NA nor they have that reputation, just so you know, LA and NA share the same servers, and your assumption is wrong, LA has been begging for the linking from the very first month of SC2.

I've played LA players in many different games and there has always been a problem with lag. A lot of LA players also bm but I have met a handful that are cool. I personally am not excited about having LA players on the NA server.

And don't just say someone is racist whenever you read something you don't like from someone you assume is white. He didn't say anything racist, he just pointed out problems that we've had in other games from LA and RU players.
zala2023
Profile Joined April 2011
United States228 Posts
July 13 2011 10:54 GMT
#488
damn
poor taiwan players are screwed
relax bro we got this
brrrtmn
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation154 Posts
July 13 2011 11:08 GMT
#489
On July 13 2011 19:12 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 18:15 Voli wrote:
As for the lag issues, I play on both european and russian servers and I notice zero latency changes. Most of the russian ISPs work perfectly well with european segment so please don't worry about this lag stereotype.
ps: Putin Vodka Perestroika


Aren't EU and RU servers hosted in the same data-center anyway?

yeah,probably in same room lol
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
July 13 2011 13:58 GMT
#490
god i hoped that this will never happen, i was playing custom games so hapily, now i wont be able to read 90% of the chat because russians doest give a fuck that you cant understand them, and proceed to spam in russian language rofl...
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
Servatose
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 14:15:27
July 13 2011 14:14 GMT
#491
I'm a little confused at the vast amount of assumptions that seem to be thrown around in this thread. Some are saying lack of regional players are leading to the merger, and while that may be the case in some situations, I don't think there's a smaller amount of players playing Starcraft now than when started. SC2ranks has over 3,000,000 people ranked in Season 2, which if I recall is actually a larger number than Season 1. I could be wrong, though. Are there figures to back up these statements?

According to SC2 ranks, these are the number of ranked players per region, something I think is rather interesting. There's a lot more players in most regions than I think a lot of people in this thread are aware of, especially RU.

CN: 252,064
RU: 104,144
TW: 146,464
SEA: 134,515
EU: 865,572
KR: 519,378
NA: 1,102,948
LA: 56,862
Total: 3,181,947

It seems to me that Blizzard's FAQ answer to why the linking is taking place is legit, just to create more match making opportunities, and not to compensate for a dwindling amount of players, as some of the posters have eluded to.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 13 2011 17:26 GMT
#492
Would've preferred being able to hop around from region to region, not region merging. :\
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
July 13 2011 18:03 GMT
#493
If there is no additional lag, and there is the ability to merge servers like this with no repercussions, they should make regions based on language, then have 1 main server for everyone to play on with a top level competitive attitude.
English, Spanish, Chinese, Korean, and Russian servers (merge TW and CN for Chinese), then 1 global server for everyone. Awesomeness!
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
July 13 2011 18:19 GMT
#494
It's worth noting that another possible reason for the "region link" is that the player league distribution on the smaller servers was pretty messed up. When they adjusted MMR boundaries for each region in order to compensate for the low retention and activity rate of Bronze, they did NA first and over time we saw the size of Bronze on SC2Ranks drop from 40% down to now 27%. They used a similar per-region compensation method for the other servers and it was successful on most of them, but not for RU, TW, and LA. The activity level on those very small servers may not be enough for adjustments to have any impact.

There were some other problems, too. A major complaint from the LA community when GM league was announced was that GM league was going to end up being larger than Master league, which ended up being true. This led to some Diamond players being undeservedly promoted to Master and then to Grandmaster which completely threw off the integrity of the GM rankings because players weren't able to keep their MMR in the expected Grandmaster zone. The effect of this was players couldn't spend their bonus pool and new GM players were rotated in every so often, but those new players had the same problems and GM league became a revolving door for weeks before Blizzard hacked in a solution and changed the GM offset.
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RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
July 13 2011 18:19 GMT
#495
I just got word from Blizzard that they will refund anyone who has both NA and LA on there LA account (maybe NA depends on which you ask for but I did it for LA), which is to say you aren't losing anything by the process of converting both servers into one. This was a huge relief for me since I figured I was screwed although I did ask originally for it to just be swapped to SEA but they would only give me a full refund which can take up to a week for approval and transfer of funds. So I'm not upset about all this anymore! ^^
Flight
Profile Joined August 2010
Brazil163 Posts
July 13 2011 18:29 GMT
#496
On July 14 2011 03:19 RaLakedaimon wrote:
I just got word from Blizzard that they will refund anyone who has both NA and LA on there LA account (maybe NA depends on which you ask for but I did it for LA), which is to say you aren't losing anything by the process of converting both servers into one. This was a huge relief for me since I figured I was screwed although I did ask originally for it to just be swapped to SEA but they would only give me a full refund which can take up to a week for approval and transfer of funds. So I'm not upset about all this anymore! ^^


Can you confirm that? Quote? Screenshot?
ilovelings
Profile Joined January 2011
Argentina776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 18:46:37
July 13 2011 18:39 GMT
#497
When someone bms me in english, I bm him in spanish fur die lulz. I do not understand the complaints of some players.

The fact is that NA/LA servers are now located in the same datacenter, and if they are merged properly by Blizz IT guys, there should not be any lag issues. If you don't like playing with non-english speakers, well go fuck yourselves and welcome to the XXIst century.
People is diying.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 13 2011 18:55 GMT
#498
On July 14 2011 03:03 Shinta) wrote:
If there is no additional lag, and there is the ability to merge servers like this with no repercussions, they should make regions based on language, then have 1 main server for everyone to play on with a top level competitive attitude.
English, Spanish, Chinese, Korean, and Russian servers (merge TW and CN for Chinese), then 1 global server for everyone. Awesomeness!


Keep dreaming, man! Not until the world is connected by fiber optics at least.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
July 14 2011 02:37 GMT
#499
On July 14 2011 03:19 RaLakedaimon wrote:
I just got word from Blizzard that they will refund anyone who has both NA and LA on there LA account (maybe NA depends on which you ask for but I did it for LA), which is to say you aren't losing anything by the process of converting both servers into one. This was a huge relief for me since I figured I was screwed although I did ask originally for it to just be swapped to SEA but they would only give me a full refund which can take up to a week for approval and transfer of funds. So I'm not upset about all this anymore! ^^


If that is true, I hope that it is optional. I want BOTH my accounts; one of them was a Blizzard gift anyways(hail Twitter promotions :D), so I don't want any refund, I want my Terran-only account D:
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
July 14 2011 02:46 GMT
#500
On July 14 2011 11:37 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 03:19 RaLakedaimon wrote:
I just got word from Blizzard that they will refund anyone who has both NA and LA on there LA account (maybe NA depends on which you ask for but I did it for LA), which is to say you aren't losing anything by the process of converting both servers into one. This was a huge relief for me since I figured I was screwed although I did ask originally for it to just be swapped to SEA but they would only give me a full refund which can take up to a week for approval and transfer of funds. So I'm not upset about all this anymore! ^^


If that is true, I hope that it is optional. I want BOTH my accounts; one of them was a Blizzard gift anyways(hail Twitter promotions :D), so I don't want any refund, I want my Terran-only account D:


If that is true, I am positive it's optional. But I didn't heard anything about it yet...
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