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Chill (1:38 July 05 KST): Discussing the cracked Bnet2 is acceptable in this thread.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 05 2011 07:57 a_flayer wrote:
And hey, since we're all buds now, why not release something official? It's already out there, might as well make it official and maybe Blizzard can get some more control/money back in their hands -that- way. Since that's what they're after. Just release a limited version of THEIR bnetd for a reasonable price to LANs so that they can host their own servers in a totally legit way.
Please. Every tournament in the world would happily pay for a server license or equivalent.
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On July 05 2011 08:08 VPCursed wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 08:05 oBlade wrote:On July 05 2011 08:01 VPCursed wrote:On July 05 2011 07:57 oBlade wrote:
Like splitting the community into a Korean, European, and NA community? no, like making sub communities within those regions. Making it much harder for ppl who pick up the game to find high level players/see high level play. because they're not in the "community" Oh, okay, I understand. Like fracturing a global community into subcommunities. There is nothing good about Blizzard having a monopoly on ladders to their own game. E-sports is ground-up, not top-down. Games grow when third parties swarm to do stuff for them. What monopoly? They're doing fine. This isn't BW days where BNET was utter shit. there is a Great ladder system in place along with solid Matchmaking. There is no need for a private server.
Actually, the NA ladder is becoming as bad as USWest with all those damn hackers (using guest passes)
I'd be happy for a new server if it was better maintained
Also, who really thinks blizz will be able to sue the Chinese modders? They can't even stop Chinese gold farming. Best thing they can do is stop tournaments from using it
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Blizzard, you know if Bnet 2 had good enough international latency, people wouldn't spend time doing this...
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Russian Federation216 Posts
and i pray for fixing custom games system
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Awesome! I look forward to trying it out with mates at our next lan. SC2 with no lag, it's gonna be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet xD
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Sales in China -95%
Sales internationally -60%
Well done modders, well done.
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Confirmed working, knew my Chinese would come in handy one of these days. mod edit
User was warned for this post
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So the drop hackers are bad, but these hackers are good? They did the same thing, only you guys actually get to profit off of this with an illegal LAN.
It'll get shut down anyway, Blizzard is going to kick the shit out of whoever is doing this. That is, unless the government throws a fit. Which they probably will.
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On July 05 2011 10:49 StuBob wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 08:36 TheyPerch wrote:On July 05 2011 08:29 Jago wrote:
So Iccup is okay, but this isn't? ICCUP and SC:BW is a totally different ballgame. SC:BW had LAN built into the game, SC2 doesn't. No, I look at them the same. iCCup was a hacked/private server (against the blizzard TOS)
Yeah but I'm sure that Blizzard understood that in a lot of ways ICCup and the other private servers were keeping BW alive outside of Korea
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On July 05 2011 12:20 Mauldo wrote:
So the drop hackers are bad, but these hackers are good? They did the same thing, only you guys actually get to profit off of this with an illegal LAN.
It'll get shut down anyway, Blizzard is going to kick the shit out of whoever is doing this. That is, unless the government throws a fit. Which they probably will.
There is a big difference in downloading a script off google and double clicking it to take advantaged of flaws in the bnet0.2 to cheat someone out of pixel pts as opposed to reverse engineering the whole client/server relations and allowing people to play around the world lag free without even needing an internet connection.
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On July 05 2011 11:32 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 07:57 a_flayer wrote:
And hey, since we're all buds now, why not release something official? It's already out there, might as well make it official and maybe Blizzard can get some more control/money back in their hands -that- way. Since that's what they're after. Just release a limited version of THEIR bnetd for a reasonable price to LANs so that they can host their own servers in a totally legit way. Please. Every tournament in the world would happily pay for a server license or equivalent.
That's a pretty ridiculous claim.
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i dont think it will get shut down
piracy is all over china and the chinese government refuse to crackdown on anything despite of the pressure from the rest of the world. chances are, with in a year, 90% of the chinese players will be playing with this new crack and blizzard will rage quit away from their idea of selling sc2 to the chinese market.
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On July 05 2011 12:30 RoieTRS wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 11:32 Plexa wrote:On July 05 2011 07:57 a_flayer wrote:
And hey, since we're all buds now, why not release something official? It's already out there, might as well make it official and maybe Blizzard can get some more control/money back in their hands -that- way. Since that's what they're after. Just release a limited version of THEIR bnetd for a reasonable price to LANs so that they can host their own servers in a totally legit way. Please. Every tournament in the world would happily pay for a server license or equivalent. That's a pretty ridiculous claim.
Gotta love how players get dropped at tournaments
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 05 2011 12:30 RoieTRS wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 11:32 Plexa wrote:On July 05 2011 07:57 a_flayer wrote:
And hey, since we're all buds now, why not release something official? It's already out there, might as well make it official and maybe Blizzard can get some more control/money back in their hands -that- way. Since that's what they're after. Just release a limited version of THEIR bnetd for a reasonable price to LANs so that they can host their own servers in a totally legit way. Please. Every tournament in the world would happily pay for a server license or equivalent. That's a pretty ridiculous claim.
Okay let me rephrase, every tournament with any sense of legitimacy will pay for a server license.
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On July 05 2011 12:25 MementoMori wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 10:49 StuBob wrote:On July 05 2011 08:36 TheyPerch wrote:On July 05 2011 08:29 Jago wrote:
So Iccup is okay, but this isn't? ICCUP and SC:BW is a totally different ballgame. SC:BW had LAN built into the game, SC2 doesn't. No, I look at them the same. iCCup was a hacked/private server (against the blizzard TOS) Yeah but I'm sure that Blizzard understood that in a lot of ways ICCUP and the other private servers were keeping BW alive outside of Korea
While this is likely part of it, there's also the fact that it's likely it wasn't possible for Blizzard to fix, the evidence being how much harder it's been to make it happen in SC2. Between drastic changes to the way the old Battle.net works, the inability to prevent distribution (even if it was fixed in a patch, there's nothing to stop people from using an earlier version), and the costs of litigation to get people to stop (Blizzard were popular before WoW, but they didn't have that much money), it really wasn't worth their time and money to shut down private servers. Nowadays, they've got resources we mere mortals quake to consider, and after seeing what happened to the guys who hacked the PS3 I don't want to think about what would befall the people that would make a viable easy-to-install-and-use LAN-capable alternative to Blizzard's Battle.net.
Which is unfortunate, because lately BNet 2.0's flaws (hackers running amok, messy leagues, very little moderation, poor international support, tournaments discarding the ladder map pool, still no freakin' LAN) have been becoming more and more apparent, and without a possible fix on the horizon until Heart of the Swarm (even then, I'm not holding my breath) there's really no alternative for unsatisfied players. This will only brew discontent and resentment, and while yes nobody's pirating the multiplayer game, there are plenty of people much less inclined to pick up the future expansions.
Also, as an aside, to those proposing that Blizzard release a tournament-only version of SC2 with LAN, dream on. All it takes is one punk with a 16GB flash drive and a tournament admin looking away for five minutes at a MLG or a Dreamhack or any other large-scale LAN and that shit is all over every torrent site you can name. They have to go all-or-nothing on LAN support, and for at least the time being it's going to be nothing.
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May I ask the TL mods why we can't post links to the crack? I thought teamliquid was a Starcraft fansite, not a subsidiary of Blizzard.
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since bnet 2.0 is like a server-ish kinda thing, it's only a matter of time before they found this crack. we used to think maplestory wouldn't have a private server but then it did. won't really be long before 'StarCraft II' appears on private server websites like gtop100.com :/
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Someone ought to integrate this with a ladder system to create the first true "non-Blizzard" ladder.
edit: Can't wait.
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On July 05 2011 12:57 iamho wrote:
May I ask the TL mods why we can't post links to the crack? I thought teamliquid was a Starcraft fansite, not a subsidiary of Blizzard.
Same reason we can't link to torrents/warez
Just a TL thing
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On July 05 2011 12:51 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 12:30 RoieTRS wrote:On July 05 2011 11:32 Plexa wrote:On July 05 2011 07:57 a_flayer wrote:
And hey, since we're all buds now, why not release something official? It's already out there, might as well make it official and maybe Blizzard can get some more control/money back in their hands -that- way. Since that's what they're after. Just release a limited version of THEIR bnetd for a reasonable price to LANs so that they can host their own servers in a totally legit way. Please. Every tournament in the world would happily pay for a server license or equivalent. That's a pretty ridiculous claim. Okay let me rephrase, every tournament with any sense of legitimacy will pay for a server license.
Unfortunately, Blizz is the one who decide who is legit, who is not. All tournaments need their "blessing".
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Question, but everyone is complaining about the offical Bnet being overrun by hacks. What is to stop 3rd party services that could be created from getting hacked by drop hackers? If a multi national corporation with a dedicated tech support group can't stop some bums from hacking their Battlenet, how is a bunch of volunteer mods on a 3rd party server gonna stop it? Am I missing something completely obvious?
Also I never used ICCup, but how is their ranking system better than Bnet 2.0s? I'm sorry but any system that puts 95% of the player base in one group is NOT a good system, regardless of how much nostalgic tingling you get from thinking about BW.
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