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Howdy everyone,
Just wanted to hear your thoughts on a topic I have been quite curious about recentlty; is being a starcraft 2 pro-gamer a sustainable career?
What I mean by that is; will dedicating a large percentage of your time to play starcraft 2 professionally be a career that is sustainable throughout the later period of ones life?
I'm not sure how many pro-gamers also have a job/are studying whilst playing, so excuse my ignorance if this applies to the vast majority of pro-gamers. But for the ones that are playing Starcraft 2 full time, what will happen when they get older and are unable to play? Playing Starcraft 2 at a high level requires a high degree of finger movement, reflexes and decision making to name a few qualities. These are all responses that we become less efficient at as we age. Although the scene is still new so it is naive to expect a lot of older gamers, the oldest player I know of is White-Ra, and he is only 29 or so. He also has relatively low APM for a profesisonal player and relies on concise decision making to be good, as opposed to just being quick. And he talks about retiring in a year or two, depending on his results and fan support. I don't think it is wrong to say that most players will peak before their 30s.
So my question is effectively; what will these players do once they are past their prime and are into their 30s? In some ways they can be compared to professional athletes; there is a relatively low age cap that they can be before they peak and start to decline in performance. However unlike athletes, there seem to be less opportunities for things like coaching or commentating that many atheletes move on to after their competing career. Furthermore, they don't seem to earn enough money during their prime to sustain them for the rest of their lives. I'm not sure if they are taxed on their winnings (I assume it is different for different counteries) but having no 'employer' so to speak, I'm not sure it is even compulsory for them/their 'employer' to contribute to their superannuation that they can access when they retire.
And lastly, will the level of education these guys have obtained be enough to land them another unrelated job should they choose to exit the E-sports scene completely? Even if they do get a degree or do some sort of further study whilst playing sc2, will they have trained so much that their grades were less than desirable, and that they merely scraped through their course with the bare minimum grades? Will the lack of work experience as a consequence of being out of the workforce for 'X' number of years be detrimental to them getting a 'normal' job after their progaming? Will the E-sports scene have developed enough by then that there are plenty of coaching or commentating roles available that will support them for retirement? Or will they be on the dole after their career is up? I'm not sure how much pro-gamers earn at the moment, but even at the highest of levels I don't believe it is something to go crazy about.
Has anyone else thought about this concept? I would like to hear any thoughts/opinions that may be more educated than mine on what will happen to our progamers after their playing time is up.
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I am afraid job prospects following being a pro gamer are terrible. You cant really be putting pro gamer on a cv as it does very little, as for education becoming a pro gamer can be very rewarding but it is extremly time intensive, if you want to become a good one you really will have no chance for studying. However, their level of qualifications depends entirely on what time they left school or college. Also there are little or none retirement possibilities, I am afraid pro gamers prospects are bleak at best. Thats not to say it shouldnt be done, it is highly rewarding often and can be very fun.
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On July 04 2011 22:01 DrN0 wrote: I am afraid job prospects following being a pro gamer are terrible. You cant really be putting pro gamer on a cv as it does very little, as for education becoming a pro gamer can be very rewarding but it is extremly time intensive, if you want to become a good one you really will have no chance for studying. However, their level of qualifications depends entirely on what time they left school or college. Also there are little or none retirement possibilities, I am afraid pro gamers prospects are bleak at best. Thats not to say it shouldnt be done, it is highly rewarding often and can be very fun.
I definitely disagree with the bolded statement. Being able to say that you put 12 hours a day of work in to something for however long with very little breaks definitely shows persistence, an amount of work ethic, and other things.
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On July 04 2011 22:05 HuskyMUDKIPZ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 22:01 DrN0 wrote: I am afraid job prospects following being a pro gamer are terrible. You cant really be putting pro gamer on a cv as it does very little, as for education becoming a pro gamer can be very rewarding but it is extremly time intensive, if you want to become a good one you really will have no chance for studying. However, their level of qualifications depends entirely on what time they left school or college. Also there are little or none retirement possibilities, I am afraid pro gamers prospects are bleak at best. Thats not to say it shouldnt be done, it is highly rewarding often and can be very fun. I definitely disagree with the bolded statement. Being able to say that you put 12 hours a day of work in to something for however long with very little breaks definitely shows persistence, an amount of work ethic, and other things.
That's 100% going to depend on the employer (or whoever will be reading the CVs). Such a person may just as well think "oh, he's been wasting his time playing videogames instead of doing something productive."
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Its not complicated, there's not a whole lot of money in pro gaming, relatively speaking. Only the very top few will ever be able to sustain a career after their "prime". Being a pro gamer will not be all that useful for any career (tech) switch later that does not involve e-sports or video games. This is an endeavor for those who have a passion for the game, much like minor league professional sports players, or any number of non-mainstream competitive games out there.
Also, don't buy into the myth that someone over 30 can't be a pro. The reason you don't see very many older pros is not because their reaction speed decreases, it's because they grow up and have additional responsibilities that rule out a risky/questionable career as a gamer. Although in some studies, it has been shown that reaction time decreases slightly with age, a pro who has more experience will almost always be at an advantage. After all, the reason pro sports players retire is not because their mind can't react fast enough, it's because their bodies give out - something that does not really factor into e-sports. Likewise nobody is surprised to see a master pianist or chess grandmaster over 30.
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I think progaming as a career is very, very risky! It goes without saying, that in the first place you need to have a lot of talent for the game and currently (for your status) being a very good player already. But competitive gaming is very hard: the only way u can REALLY start to make money is if you win a lot of major tourneys. and as u can c, most of the other progamers have a lot of trouble with that and theres no like"ultimate players" who keep winning all of them. There are just so many factors.
And besides that, What are you gonna do (like a poster here said before) after you get a little older/Starcarft 2 finishes and a new one comes out/ etc.? The retirement possiblities are pretty limited and im sad to admit, that if you go to a job application afterwards and the man there asks you "what you've been doing for the past couple of years" it still is perceived as a rather "not good thing" to say "i was a pro gamer". This has been discussed here a lot too....
On the other hand it pretty much depends on what you do too, really. I mean if your work afterwards will be something on the internet etc. etc. you pretty much have good possiblities to pick your work up after u stop being a pro gamer. Best of luck to you!
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You also have to consider that a lot of players may forego University in favor or practice, leaving them even less prepared for a career post-gaming.
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From what i have heard allot of progammers like Idra, make most their living from sponerships and advertising (on streams and such). So i think the question really is, will E-sports gain a large enough fan base companies will be more willing to sponer players for larger amounts of money. That is how it is in other sports. As for the matter of what will they do after the retier? I think options are seeming limited as they have spent many years not in a work force and being educated. And i dont think E-sports will grow to the point anytime soon that progameers will be putting that on their SCs. How ever i belive that many progamers will have more success than most sports people, as they not only have huge personal drives to achive but (not to be condisending to sports players) are equipt with big ass brain. It all depends on growth and sponsors.
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On July 04 2011 22:09 Rannasha wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 22:05 HuskyMUDKIPZ wrote:On July 04 2011 22:01 DrN0 wrote: I am afraid job prospects following being a pro gamer are terrible. You cant really be putting pro gamer on a cv as it does very little, as for education becoming a pro gamer can be very rewarding but it is extremly time intensive, if you want to become a good one you really will have no chance for studying. However, their level of qualifications depends entirely on what time they left school or college. Also there are little or none retirement possibilities, I am afraid pro gamers prospects are bleak at best. Thats not to say it shouldnt be done, it is highly rewarding often and can be very fun. I definitely disagree with the bolded statement. Being able to say that you put 12 hours a day of work in to something for however long with very little breaks definitely shows persistence, an amount of work ethic, and other things. That's 100% going to depend on the employer (or whoever will be reading the CVs). Such a person may just as well think "oh, he's been wasting his time playing videogames instead of doing something productive." Yeah therein lies the problem; most people see video games as a hobby, not a profession. Whilst it does require a lot of dedication, it is hard to convince people that it should be considered a profession.
and @Hashmeister; aha I am just a rookie with no intention of playing sc2 professionally, I just brought this up because I thought it was interesting
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My opinion is deffinatly not. Unless you are a boxer or flash you won't make enough money to support yourself or your family when you get older. No offense but I don't see sc2 being a carreer any time soon and I think its a good thing
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Pro gaming is a terrible career choice, I wanted to be pro when I was a kid but once I got into college and realised how satisfying studying something is I could no longer see the appeal. I don't know what to think of pro gamers, are they nerdy guys who just couldn't be fucked to find a real job and get a degree, or are they serious athletes who are giving something back to the community. I think the first one is more accurate, then again I don't know these people on a personal level.
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On July 04 2011 22:11 Hashmeister wrote: I think progaming as a career is very, very risky! It goes without saying, that in the first place you need to have a lot of talent for the game and currently (for your status) being a very good player already. But competitive gaming is very hard: the only way u can REALLY start to make money is if you win a lot of major tourneys. and as u can c, most of the other progamers have a lot of trouble with that and theres no like"ultimate players" who keep winning all of them. There are just so many factors.
And besides that, What are you gonna do (like a poster here said before) after you get a little older/Starcarft 2 finishes and a new one comes out/ etc.? The retirement possiblities are pretty limited and im sad to admit, that if you go to a job application afterwards and the man there asks you "what you've been doing for the past couple of years" it still is perceived as a rather "not good thing" to say "i was a pro gamer". This has been discussed here a lot too....
On the other hand it pretty much depends on what you do too, really. I mean if your work afterwards will be something on the internet etc. etc. you pretty much have good possiblities to pick your work up after u stop being a pro gamer. Best of luck to you!
Well actually this statement is slightly false. The main income of a progamer is usually not tournament winnings: It comes from sponsorship money, coaching, streaming and all sorts of other commitment (like bogging about products, commercials etc). However, you could argue that in order to really get your name out there in order to get a good contract you would need to win tournaments but this is also not the case; destiny being one example.
The problem with progaming and the reason I would never want to be one (not that I could) is what comes afterwards. A lot of people give up studies and jobs to get enough time to practice and even though this might work out while they are still earning money from playing they could end up in a horrible life after they stop playing being in mid/late twenties without education, a time when things like settling down and starting a family is more important.
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On July 04 2011 22:22 Jhax wrote: Pro gaming is a terrible career choice, I wanted to be pro when I was a kid but once I got into college and realised how satisfying studying something is I could no longer see the appeal. I don't know what to think of pro gamers, are they nerdy guys who just couldn't be fucked to find a real job and get a degree, or are they serious athletes who are giving something back to the community. I think the first one is more accurate, then again I don't know these people on a personal level.
Or you know, they love gaming? Stupid post.
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On July 04 2011 22:09 Rannasha wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 22:05 HuskyMUDKIPZ wrote:On July 04 2011 22:01 DrN0 wrote: I am afraid job prospects following being a pro gamer are terrible. You cant really be putting pro gamer on a cv as it does very little, as for education becoming a pro gamer can be very rewarding but it is extremly time intensive, if you want to become a good one you really will have no chance for studying. However, their level of qualifications depends entirely on what time they left school or college. Also there are little or none retirement possibilities, I am afraid pro gamers prospects are bleak at best. Thats not to say it shouldnt be done, it is highly rewarding often and can be very fun. I definitely disagree with the bolded statement. Being able to say that you put 12 hours a day of work in to something for however long with very little breaks definitely shows persistence, an amount of work ethic, and other things. That's 100% going to depend on the employer (or whoever will be reading the CVs). Such a person may just as well think "oh, he's been wasting his time playing videogames instead of doing something productive." Who cares about random people reading the Curricula Vitae of progamers. Chances are they will be employed by the gaming industry or sponsors. Chances are there are potential employers among starcraft fans.
Everyone here on teamliquid.net should know it takes exceptional individuals to compete on the top level.
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On July 04 2011 22:28 Sleec wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 22:22 Jhax wrote: Pro gaming is a terrible career choice, I wanted to be pro when I was a kid but once I got into college and realised how satisfying studying something is I could no longer see the appeal. I don't know what to think of pro gamers, are they nerdy guys who just couldn't be fucked to find a real job and get a degree, or are they serious athletes who are giving something back to the community. I think the first one is more accurate, then again I don't know these people on a personal level. Or you know, they love gaming? Stupid post. A lot of people love gaming. I'm a little inclined to associate this reason with his first suggestion. Most people who enjoy gaming and have the skillset to go into progaming choose not to because they have better life prospects through another path.
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Depends on where you live. Earning 500 Euro's in Britain, or 500$ in America may not be a lot, but in places like Brazil, Peru, Eastern Europe, it's VERY good pay.
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pro gaming is a passionate career, not a suitable.
it's like pro any sport, tons of risk and only the best are rewarded
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Is it any more ridiculous than becoming being a beauty queen and then making a career switch to Governor of Alaska?
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You may consider playing other games after SC2. That will help your sustainability, since I'm sure there will be other competitive games being released. Hell, you may even count on Starcraft 3 in 10 years. :D It never hurts to have secondary skills, and with the pro scene being what it is, if you manage to get on a team and become sponsored, you'll have opportunities to network with large corporations.
I think if you're going to be mentioning this to a potential employer, you're going to have to dress it up a bit better than just "I was a pro gamer". I'd drop gamer from your descriptions and just say 'player', since gamer may not give off impression you want. Someone who doesn't know about the scene is going to bring it up (if they're worth anything at interviewing), and it's probably best to talk a little bit about the industry, and then tell them how you fit in as a player. For instance, you're usually being sponsored by large companies, playing in large tournaments with thousands of spectators, with plenty of money on the line.
Instead of trying to explain the mechanics of the game and all of the different strategies, I'd give an estimate of how much I 'needed' to train in order to remain competitive. Name dropping some of the sponsors for you and the tournaments should also catch the attention -- For example, people know of Intel worldwide, so if you happened to place 3rd, 2nd, or even take 1st at IEM, people will know it's not just some no-name community tournament. What employers are going to be able to relate to most in this scene are the business aspects and money. At least tell them about the money and the business, and it's hard to say it was a negative thing on your resume.
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On July 04 2011 22:31 Maenander wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 22:09 Rannasha wrote:On July 04 2011 22:05 HuskyMUDKIPZ wrote:On July 04 2011 22:01 DrN0 wrote: I am afraid job prospects following being a pro gamer are terrible. You cant really be putting pro gamer on a cv as it does very little, as for education becoming a pro gamer can be very rewarding but it is extremly time intensive, if you want to become a good one you really will have no chance for studying. However, their level of qualifications depends entirely on what time they left school or college. Also there are little or none retirement possibilities, I am afraid pro gamers prospects are bleak at best. Thats not to say it shouldnt be done, it is highly rewarding often and can be very fun. I definitely disagree with the bolded statement. Being able to say that you put 12 hours a day of work in to something for however long with very little breaks definitely shows persistence, an amount of work ethic, and other things. That's 100% going to depend on the employer (or whoever will be reading the CVs). Such a person may just as well think "oh, he's been wasting his time playing videogames instead of doing something productive." Who cares about random people reading the Curricula Vitae of progamers. Chances are they will be employed by the gaming industry or sponsors. Chances are there are potential employers among starcraft fans. Everyone here on teamliquid.net should know it takes exceptional individuals to compete on the top level. And what about those people who seek employment from somebody who doesn't appreciate progaming then? What if they want to enter a large law firm or investment bank. In fact, what if they simply wanted to be a vet or salesman? Is progaming likely to get you an interview after the application process? As big as the Starcraft or competitive gaming community is, the world is bigger, and at the end of the day, progaming restricts your later career prospects immensely. I would even say that your options in the game industry are limited. Does being an ex-progamer qualify you to make code, write opinion articles or be a manager? Many ex-progamers go on to be commentators but this market is quite full and will only get more so, and not to mention that games are restricted by their popularity lifespans.
IMHO, it is not the wisest career choice. Some people may say that progamers are passionate about the game but come on, heaps and heaps of people here and elsewhere are passionate about the game just as much. At the end of the day, it depends on your other prospects. Not to generalise, but if you are from a country with low average earnings and cost of living, then the monetary lure of international events might even be worth it. That's one of the reasons why there is some much footballing (not handegg) talent emerging out of South America and Africa and so few coming out of the English junior ranks. Progaming might be lucrative for some people and it might be unnecessarily risky for others.
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You should ask someone that actually is a progamer instead of people that are clearly not there, because all you will get is "I don't know but it sounds utterly stupid to be a progamer. Yea sure I cheer for them and I watch SC2 24/7 but I still think they are stupid lol, I mean they just play all day long n stuff" or other uneducated stuff.
You won't get good answers if you randomly ask people that aren't involved. Why should you ask a secretary if it's worthwile writing books? You either get a stupid answer or no answer. Don't tink that just because you're on teamliquid and watch starcraft all day you know what's behind the curtains, especially moneywise. Someone like SirScoots or IdrA(for western) or Bisu/Flash(for Koreans) etc could give you a solid answer, but someone like RandomGuyPlayer4201 or KeksX can't.
So I don't get why you would open a thread instead of approaching these people directly.
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As tyCe said, it's not a wise career choice. You have to give up so much of your life to be a progamer that you won't have any work experience/formation to go on for the rest of your life with tranquility.
@Greatness R$ 500,00 is not near good. With this pay you will have to live in a shack, in a bad neighborhood, with no broadband and no practice environment near you. Especially to be a programer, that you have to give ups lots to achieve.
Let's remeber that 99% of the progamer population in the post career won't be employed by sponsor or by the game developers, won't be coaches or will found a team, and must find another means to live. It's just not viable unless you are the best (Flash, Jaedong, rly good Counter Strike players).
Unfortunetly, as trancey said you do it because you are passionate about it, but it is not profitable.
When I was 16 I had the dream of becoming a CS pro. I am sure any teenager that likes SC2 wants to be a pro, but we must face reality.
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On July 04 2011 22:58 KeksX wrote: You should ask someone that actually is a progamer instead of people that are clearly not there, because all you will get is "I don't know but it sounds utterly stupid to be a progamer. Yea sure I cheer for them and I watch SC2 24/7 but I still think they are stupid lol, I mean they just play all day long n stuff" or other uneducated stuff.
You won't get good answers if you randomly ask people that aren't involved. Why should you ask a secretary if it's worthwile writing books? You either get a stupid answer or no answer. Don't tink that just because you're on teamliquid and watch starcraft all day you know what's behind the curtains, especially moneywise. Someone like SirScoots or IdrA(for western) or Bisu/Flash(for Koreans) etc could give you a solid answer, but someone like RandomGuyPlayer4201 or KeksX can't.
So I don't get why you would open a thread instead of approaching these people directly. They probably have better things to do than answer my questions, and even if they did bother noticing they may take it as an insult. Just because people on these forums aren't progamers doesn't mean they know absolutely nothing about it...
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Slim to no chance of sustaining a good career off progaming for all the reasons stated.
The money's so top heavy in most cases that being an average pro nets you nearly nothing to live on. You have to be good for a team to sign you, be good to win tourneys, be good to rack up sponsors, so it's just one vicious circle: you win or you fade into obscurity.
Post-career wise, I guess if you really put in the effort you can go through some sort of continuing education program? Not everyone is of desirable quality to be picked up back in the industry after they retire. Some progamers just don't make good commentator material, for instance. But you'll definitely be behind the curve, and I'd think putting video gaming on a resume is just asking to be stigmatized in most cases.
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being a professional gamer or anything related to this field is being treated with the same bias that professional sportsmen underwent during the early days, it will change as the decades go by with subsequent generations growing up gaming. It is also strongly dependent on the country's interest and culture, for example only certain sports are popular in certain countries. Korea has pretty much established esport as a legitimate industry you can work in for a long time.
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People care about careers and money too much. We only live once so do what you want.
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On July 05 2011 00:07 Lennon wrote: People care about careers and money too much. We only live once so do what you want. If I could rep you or give you karma for this post i would x100. Total truth. You get 1 shot at this thing called life, might aswell do what you love.
People think I'm crazy cuz I wanna be a pro mma fighter, but i put in the time/work and ill do as much as i can to get there (sacrificing social life/going to school for now/etc)
It's all about enjoying life.
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yeah its a semi-all in build. hard to transition out of.
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I don't get why all these people are posting here yet none of them are professional gamers....
It's like trying to really explain what a lawyer or a teacher does and all their perks and responsibilities without ever being a lawyer or teacher.
Professional gaming is a unique career so honestly, you should go ask/e-mail/pm a professional gamer. Everyone here has speculations and assumptions that might or might not be correct.
On July 05 2011 00:07 Lennon wrote: People care about careers and money too much. We only live once so do what you want.
Wait until you get a family and say that. You have to sacrifice many things in life to be a responsible adult raising a family and making enough to support a family.
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Right now?
No - what i did 13 years ago was want to go pro at quake ... its a lot better now but what i accomplished was dropping out of uni and then teaching myself what i would of learnt there on the job instead - but without a degree and being surrounded by people who were into it. I don't regret anything i did, but i'm a strong willed asshole (probably in part because of my choices)
One thing for sure: while young take HUGE risks because you have time to recover. When you hit 25 you will begin to realise that you need to 'cash in on your potential' by the time your 30 your thinking about retirement 
But the more threads like this and the less likley it is to happen
THINK
Assume the role if you care, otherwise stop shitting in other peoples bathtub
Just because papers write inflamatory articles like this all the time doesn't mean that they are actually substantive. You start asking people to think about this instead of assuming that it is already the case and all of a sudden less people think pro gaming is viable which means that less people will have the chance.
The very fact you need to ask this question should of answered it for you.
Untill a pro gamer can make £50k a year there are better ways for dedicated talented people to make more money, with more job security than pro gaming currently.
Write your own game ... it willl take you about as long ... remember a small game called warcraft / spear of destiny / wolfenstein. Sell it cheap and your market is billions.
response top below: How about people who have sat down and made the decision? If you want a yacht you probably don't want to be a pro gamer ... its all about what you want in life. I want to die comfortable and not leave my kids in debt.
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People who aren't pro-gamers should not be putting their opinions in this thread. Leave it to people employed or making a living on their own being a gamer.
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Look man if you really want to do it and it will make you happy just DO IT! If it doesnt work out thats cool go to school get a different job/career.
Just be realistic when you decide to stop if that time ever comes. If you spend 2 years and play 12 hours a day and cant get into masters then its time to stop
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On July 04 2011 23:02 pedrotrv wrote: Let's remeber that 99% of the progamer population won't be employed by sponsor or by the game developers, won't be coaches or will found a team, and must find another means to live. It's just not viable unless you are the best (Flash, Jaedong, rly good Counter Strike players).
The definition of Pro is getting paid, almost always by sponsors. You also don't necessarily need to be the best to get paid. Every player on EG is paid a salary and there's only 1 player on that team that you could consider one of the best.
Progaming isn't something that you should get into for the money, but if you really love SC2 then it's nice to know that if you put in the work to be the best then you'll get rewarded with a semi-decent income.
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It's probably sustainable for the tip top players until early-mid thirties, and probably even longer term for those few that are sought after casters.
That said, it is a SUPER short list. Probably 30-50 players on earth that can earn a decent living.
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The pros right now are living in the moment and that's all that matters. They'll ride the wave as long as they are still having fun and making money. I highly doubt any of them are dumb enough to not think long term.
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On July 05 2011 01:02 ak1knight wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2011 23:02 pedrotrv wrote: Let's remeber that 99% of the progamer population won't be employed by sponsor or by the game developers, won't be coaches or will found a team, and must find another means to live. It's just not viable unless you are the best (Flash, Jaedong, rly good Counter Strike players).
The definition of Pro is getting paid, almost always by sponsors. You also don't necessarily need to be the best to get paid. Every player on EG is paid a salary and there's only 1 player on that team that you could consider one of the best. Progaming isn't something that you should get into for the money, but if you really love SC2 then it's nice to know that if you put in the work to be the best then you'll get rewarded with a semi-decent income.
I'm sry, my sentence was incomplete. I meant in the post career.
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MC and Nestea have both made plenty of money from prize winnings. Destiny makes 35k ~ 40k a year streaming. Idra apparently also makes in that range with his team's salary and streaming. If you can achieve good results, land on a top team, or gain popularity some other way (casting, appearing on shows, etc), or a combination of those, you can certainly make a living off starcraft, but it may not be as big of an income as you can get from other jobs. Hell, even HD and Husky make enough from their youtube channels.
Whether or not you can find a job after you retire from progaming is up for debate and will probably depend on the employer. Some will consider the fact that a player became a top pro a testament to the players intelligence, perseverance, and work ethic, while others will think he's an anti social guy wasting his time playing computer games. One thing to consider, however, is that gaming is recieving more acceptance in Western culture and it seems to be a trend that will continue. As this trend progresses, listing "progamer" as an occupation on your CV will hold more and more importance to employers
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On July 04 2011 22:22 Jhax wrote: Pro gaming is a terrible career choice, I wanted to be pro when I was a kid but once I got into college and realised how satisfying studying something is I could no longer see the appeal. I don't know what to think of pro gamers, are they nerdy guys who just couldn't be fucked to find a real job and get a degree, or are they serious athletes who are giving something back to the community. I think the first one is more accurate, then again I don't know these people on a personal level. Mr. Chae (GOMtv) was a first generation SC pro. He now has GOMtv. Kiwikaki and a lot of players know how to play poker. Spades and a lot of people are into trading (stock, forex). A job and getting paid is not the only way you can survive. In this day and age, there're lots of way people can make money not by going to work 9 to 5. You can always open your own business. Yes, getting a job is easier and less risky, but on the financial standpoint, getting a job doesn't even make as good money as working for yourself.
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