HoN Developer: Pirates killed LAN - Page 40

On June 24 2011 01:50 lorkac wrote:


A.) I'm glad you agree that file sharing is illegal.

B.) You seeing a reason for LAN does not counter Blizzard's reason for not having LAN. Both reasons can exist without either being wrong. In other words--you don't actually have a good reason for why not having LAN is wrong other than you feel like it.

C.) I don't believe in cutting people's rights. I'm simply saying that I'm the type of person who believes in treating people exactly like you yourself are treated--and that I'm glad that Blizzard isn't me. If you read my post you'd see that I said it was a good thing that Blizzard wasn't like me. I come from a country where if homeless people showed up on your property and built a shack while you were off in the beach, the law of the land would not kick them out and tell you to just accept your new neighbors. I come from a country where laws are broken daily in front of police officers who feel that those laws being broken in front of them are harmless unless they feel its not. I come from a country where the firefighters can choose to not show up to a fire unless it's big enough to worry about. I hated that.

I moved to the US and I hear that laws are only going to be pushed if the perpetrator is rich enough/poor enough? I think that is bullshit. So stop with your privileged mindset that punishment is only something corporations should get because they deserve it and that everyone in your class/age/economic/social bracket is a saint that is simply doing what he can to get by. It's favoritism and its no different than my neighbor's house burning down because the fire marshal wanted to take a shower before he left the station and so they left half an hour after they were called in.

Just because you think something is harmless does not make it so.

D.) As someone who knows people who work in the airport. I find it offensive that you would rather they "don't mind" that people stole their planes and crashed it into buildings. I find it offensive that you think they should just "calm down" after they are given such immense government pressures to control their passengers. That you would think that riding a plane is this easy thing that you deserve to have and that its not one of the most expensive things to drive *IN THE WORLD.* After 9/11 airports had a hard time making enough money to pay for the fuel to transport people--let alone make a profit. They can't afford to be known as the plane that terrorist hijacked, or that had a shoe bomb explode. It's their right to worry about those kinds of things as business owners.

When business owners are being abused by "fringe groups," it is within their right to get pissed off and try to make a safer product.

C.) Did you read that post you linked about the music industry? It only became a problem *because* DJ's decided to upload the content without paying the producer of the music. In essence, the Music Companies only got upset when radio hosts decided to act *EXACTLY* like pirates do now. They didn't mind having music on the radio. It's cheaper for them to have it on the radio. They mind when people don't pay for the music they made because that is *stealing.*

C) ]I don't believe in cutting people's rights. Like the right of privacy maybe? I'm simply saying that I'm the type of person who believes in treating people exactly like you yourself are treated--and that I'm glad that Blizzard isn't me. If you read my post you'd see that I said it was a good thing that Blizzard wasn't like me. I come from a country where if homeless people showed up on your property and built a shack while you were off in the beach, the law of the land would not kick them out and tell you to just accept your new neighbors. I come from a country where laws are broken daily in front of police officers who feel that those laws being broken in front of them are harmless unless they feel its not. I come from a country where the firefighters can choose to not show up to a fire unless it's big enough to worry about. I hated that. That sucks, but it doesnt mean it should go from one extreme to another.

I moved to the US and I hear that laws are only going to be pushed if the perpetrator is rich enough/poor enough? I think that is bullshit. So stop with your privileged mindset that punishment is only something corporations should get because they deserve it and that everyone in your class/age/economic/social bracket is a saint that is simply doing what he can to get by. What privilege did I say individuals should have? I said the mustnt be allowed to put viruses and fish for people, the same way individuals cant It's favoritism Like the way airport staff should have rights normal people dont have aka body scanners and TSA agents? and its no different than my neighbor's house burning down because the fire marshal wanted to take a shower before he left the station and so they left half an hour after they were called in.

Just because you think something is harmless does not make it so.

D.) As someone who knows people who work in the airport. I find it offensive that you would rather they "don't mind" that people stole their planes and crashed it into buildings. I find it offensive that you think they should just "calm down" after they are given such immense government pressures to control their passengers. That you would think that riding a plane is this easy thing that you deserve to have and that its not one of the most expensive things to drive *IN THE WORLD.* After 9/11 airports had a hard time making enough money to pay for the fuel to transport people--let alone make a profit. They can't afford to be known as the plane that terrorist hijacked, or that had a shoe bomb explode. It's their right to worry about those kinds of things as business owners.
Here i just find amazing you are concerned about the company not making money instead of the usual argument of safety of people but whatever I guess.

...werent we talking about LAN in this thread?

On June 23 2011 15:15 karpo wrote:



http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/10/an-inconvenient-truth-game-prices-have-come-down-with-time.ars

Games were not cheaper before. Especially when taking inflation in account.

On June 23 2011 15:37 dudeman001 wrote:

His example is extreme, but the underlying action is the same. I said it before and I'll say it again, pirating is taking a product that cost people money to make, with the expectation of profit, and offering no just compensation. It really is the equivalent of stealing.

On June 24 2011 02:53 lorkac wrote:
I've decided that it's silly trying to show pirates that what they're doing is harmful and it's shocking to me how a site like TL can have people this disrespectful to ESports. It's just frustrating and sad.

On June 24 2011 03:08 latan wrote:


That doesn't mean they couldn't be even cheaper now. The industry has grown a lot there's is a lot, more competition now, technology costs are cheaper.

On June 24 2011 02:57 Exe_adrian wrote:
Why do they always blame pirates? I mean one of the main reason why I like playing Starcraft and HoN is because of the amazing matchmaking system. I just push a button and in one minutes I've already got a match on my hands against players of similar skill to mine.

Can such a feature be available on LAN? I don't know, maybe not.

And on that note I wish developers would stop taking out LAN just because of pirating. It's a stupid reason, games will get pirated no matter if they have LAN or not.

On June 24 2011 03:31 Mallard86 wrote:
Most people who choose to obtain a product via piracy would not have opted for the legitimate course had piracy not been an option. The piracy argument is more or less crap.

On June 23 2011 12:52 pirates wrote:
I didn't kill LAN.

On June 23 2011 21:02 TheSubtleArt wrote:

I'd disagree. From a business standpoint facilitating piracy really offers no benefit; it's equivalent to making a product and giving it away for free. On top of that the scope of piracy is pretty huge, and Starcraft isn't something that benefits much from other merchandise (except for the occasional blizzard strategy book very few people buy). If it does, I highly doubt it's enough to compensate for losing millions of potential purchases.
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On June 24 2011 03:31 Mallard86 wrote:
Most people who choose to obtain a product via piracy would not have opted for the legitimate course had piracy not been an option. The piracy argument is more or less crap.

On June 24 2011 03:23 Kazeyonoma wrote:


Unless you work in the industry you have no basis for this. the cost of game development isn't just "cheaper now", you still have to pay developers, develop the product, pay for advertising, etc. People swear just because computers are faster, that making a game from scratch is somehow "magically cheaper".

On June 23 2011 07:10 mdma-_- wrote:
that still doesnt explain why they cant allow people to play each other in lan with the necessecity of being logged into bnet/whatever online client.

cheap excuse just to blame it on pirates tbh

On June 24 2011 03:08 latan wrote:


That doesn't mean they couldn't be even cheaper now. The industry has grown a lot there's is a lot, more competition now, technology costs are cheaper.