Destiny released from Complexity - Page 43

On June 24 2011 00:40 coljbass wrote:
As I said above I have no context to his meaning so it is not quote mining it is quoting exactly what was said on several occasions over the last few weeks.

On June 24 2011 00:18 coljbass wrote:


I really don't understand what more we should have said or how it can be deemed unprofessional?

Destiny himself said he signed the contract, knew what he was signing and then broke the contract which is and I quote Destiny "A Douche Move".

This was not all about what he says or doesn't say on the stream. He did not want to be part of Complexity. We could have chosen to be dicks about it and hold him to the contract he signed and not let him play for anyone. He did not want to wear the tag, did not want to honor our sponsors and all of these things stem from him not wanting to be a part of a larger organization. We talked to him at length and at the end of the day I don't understand his reasons. We knew what we were getting when we signed him and really we were for the most part fine with who he is and what he does on his stream. Obviously we could not have racial comments etc but at the end of the day this was HIS decision and we allowed him to make his own choice and he CHOSE to leave. So even though the title of our release is we "released" him that simply means we allowed him out of his legally binding contract, which we certainly did not have to do.

I don't think anyone is the bad guy here. This is not a decision that had animosity on either side. We don't want a player that does not want to be part of us and he did not want to be part of us.

So end of the day, I am not sure how we could have handled this better. We wish Destiny nothing but the best.

On June 24 2011 00:53 iamthedave wrote:
I thought Destiny was in his mid-twenties?

On June 23 2011 23:42 Juanald wrote:



low tiered team? are you forgetting coL has CatZ, Drewbie, CruncheR and minigun? any tournament they enter they are considered favorites by most people if not top 3. think before you speak.

On June 24 2011 00:50 Zyphen wrote:
I honestly had no idea who the heck this guy was until I saw this thread and then visited his fan page out of curiousity. He's got a lot of highlight videos on youtube as well. I watched quite a few of them.

It seems Destiny gets his viewership by being graphically vulgar and exaggerated about everything he does (overlords being retard magnets, using banelings as an anal probe and roaches as a rape instrument, etc.). And he yells a lot. Why is anyone surprised he's popular? Don't fool yourself into thinking our demographic is really that much better than any other online jackassery out there. The internet attracts a cesspool of human filth. I even chuckled at some of his antics myself because I'm so desensitized to it all. Being edgy and vulgar is the norm now. I laugh at the whole freedom of speech and expression schtick. There's plenty of words in the English language this Destiny guy will never use because they're not "bad" or "controversial" enough. Don't give me this "restricting language is stupid" crap. It's just a tool to gain an audience. He goes out of his way to curse randomly or make an analogy that's not even somewhat accurate because he's trying to be Howard Stern or George Carlin (who are better at it). In some of his "normal" videos, he acts completely different. It's a character he projects because he knows the bm fans will eat it up.


Look at this ridiculous page count. We're in the 40s because a semi-pro left a team where he was probably the worst player. Good players have trouble getting this press. To be clear, I'm not mad at Destiny for any of this. He's making a good living off his stream and more power to him. I didn't know about it before and I don't care to follow it now.

I'm just sad at the realization of exactly how representative Destiny is of our demographic. He got an interview with Forbes? Really? This is the state of Esports in the US. Face it guys. Outsiders will always think of it as some kid shit with pimply faced nerds talking like they hard and trying to be cool. You want money to flow into this scene? You better start appealing to the 25+ demographic that actually makes bank. Chess is a lot less exciting but has gotten televised in the states due to the strength of the community. Esports is a series of bubbles as long as the current situation persists (at least in the West). Enjoy it while it lasts.

On June 23 2011 05:40 DavidMcF wrote:
No team will want Destiny - he can't be trusted to honour contracts or promote a good image for the team.

On June 24 2011 00:49 Rocor wrote:
Do you really think that someone who speaks without understanding, and who has no desire to represent the community which supports him, would ever honor a contract that he signed ?

I hope all the pro teams out there are taking notice of this.

On June 24 2011 00:51 p1cKLes wrote:
Well, this has turned into quite the sopoper. Days of our lives destiny addition. Look, these things happen. It's part of life. Sometimes there is miscommunications, second thoughts, lost in translation moments, etc.

I think complexity handled it well and was extremely generous as they had a binding “legal” contract and they could have held Destiny’s feet to the fire and if he decided to break that contract it could have easily resulted in a lawsuit, and I hate to say this, but no one wins in a lawsuit. Have you ever heard of a friendly lawsuit? No…because they don’t exist. So complexity did an amazing thing by releasing him of his contract when they clearly didn’t have to.

Destiny could have handled the initial signing of the contract slightly better than he did, but at the same time you can fault the guy, because he clearly admitted that he did the wrong thing. Anyone that admits publicly that he screwed up in my opinion is stand up move. So good on Destiny.

All the rest of the stuff in between doesn’t even matter at this point. What happen happened. Complexity did the right thing and Destiny did the right thing. I don’t think Complexity or Destiny has to entertain any of these comments in this thread and even more than that, hurts their image, because all it does is fuel the fire, which in turn spreads misconceptions, rumors, and results in Complexity and Destiny both looking worse than they really do.

If it were me, I would leave the announcement, but close this thread and be done with it.

We knew what we were getting when we signed him and really we were for the most part fine with who he is and what he does on his stream. Obviously we could not have racial comments etc but at the end of the day this was HIS decision and we allowed him to make his own choice and he CHOSE to leave. So even though the title of our release is we "released" him that simply means we allowed him out of his legally binding contract, which we certainly did not have to do.

On June 23 2011 17:50 Destiny wrote:

We should chat on stream sometime, bro, you sound like an intelligent figure.

I'm trying super super hard not to respond to some people in this thread, but posters like the aforementioned really make me wish it'd get locked so I don't get perm-banned from these forums.

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On June 24 2011 01:27 SnetteL wrote:
Nothing but respect for how complexity dealt with the issue, i fail to understand how people can bash on them in any way.

On June 24 2011 01:23 Dub_doubt wrote:
No one is going to sign Destiny now. It was unprofessional and he made his friends look bad. With Destiny's performance in the NASL open, he's destined to forever be a SC2 streamer and not a serious contender at any pro event.