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ThatGuyDoMo
Australia516 Posts
I feel kinda sorry for Destiny, not in the loss of CoL, but that he is teamless atm and I hope he gets picked up by somebody. I guess his personality is an issue for a lot of people. Oh well, GL DESTINY! stick it to 'em. I wish you happier days! Now get back to what you do best | ||
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r4pture
United States397 Posts
This entire threads gone off topic to beating the dead horse on the way he talks. Heres an idea: if you don't like it, don't watch it. Also, try noo to be a prick and insult people who do. Of course, people can't manage that, they need to judge a man they don't know and insult a stream they don't watch (or secretly do). Such is the internet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | ||
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StrangrDangr
United States291 Posts
infrequent use of strong language There is nothing infrequent about his strong language. | ||
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zerglingrodeo
United States910 Posts
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OsoVega
926 Posts
On June 23 2011 12:54 Bean5487 wrote: someone better go look up the statute of limitations on a breach of contract Why? Complexity released him of all contractual obligations. | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
 i always liked his random vulgarity. ah well, he'll be around still, right? | ||
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badcnr
Canada116 Posts
On June 23 2011 15:08 Zirith wrote: First from my perspective, I was raised well enough to know that when speaking in a public forum you don't fucking swear(I said speaking) and words such as n***er should never be used. Quite frankly it disgusts me when people use that type of language, I almost immediately lose all respect for them if they just throw words like that around. Sure you can try to find loop holes by saying "it really does not have meaning when I say it." But if you have to find a loop hole in the first place then you are doing something wrong. In terms of gaming, if people are being ass hats in some form of voice chat(xboxlive, vent, etc) I just mute them, or block communication in sc2. I like to think that the people I play with are not mindless losers that just think what they want to think and don't give a fuck if some one else does not like it. That being said, in some ways Destiny does fall into the type of person I just described, therefore, I avoid him. As for you, it is rather unfortunate that you have been desensitized by your online social circles, and it is perfectly fine if you do not care, but please do not endorse such childish behaviour. I dont think this is the place to talk about the language problems. Since you brought up i think it is more childish to not understand the words and the context they are used in. It is fact that people understand more with tone and body language then the words its self. I was brought up to understand words before you say them and how they are bad. I was also taught respect. I also suppose that you were taught that if you cant say nothing nice to not say anything at all but obviously you dont think that is appropriate. So lets stop the hate and start share some love.... makes the world a better place. | ||
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kethers
United States719 Posts
On June 23 2011 14:59 NeXiLe wrote: I'm mostly amazed at the number of people offended by his language. I don't understand how you can be a gamer yourself, use the internet often and NOT come across this sort of thing on a daily basis. Do you enable the profanity filter on everything as well? Why does everyone think it's about the language? I have never mentioned I was once offended about the language, people seem to be putting words in my mouth. The thing that I don't like as much is his unwillingness to budge on his principles despite people being offended by his language, but that doesn't mean I disagree with his language, if you can understand that. If you've had a career before, you would understand that things don't always fit into a little niche you've made for yourself. Take an example from recent news (maybe a bit old) of a top designer from DIOR being terminated from his employment: Galliano is accused of berating people in a Paris cafe with anti-Semitic comments in February. If convicted, he could face six months in prison and hefty fines. The British designer was fired from Dior after reports that he yelled ethnic slurs at some customers in a cafe and told a woman that he loved Hitler, and that her parents most likely had been gassed to death. **note: I'm not implying that this guy's remarks and Destiny's are comparable or anything about jail/fines, I want to just emphasize that there are certain things that are accepted as sensitive subjects, or are, as InControL calls "lightning rod" words** In the real world, even if Galliano states that he didn't mean it in that way, and his best friend is Jewish, does he get a pass? If he tells people to just get a thicker skin because it happened 50 years ago and Jewish people of this generation can't identify with those that were in the Holocaust would they understand? No. No he doesn't. Welcome to the real world. **note: ONCE AGAIN I'm not implying that this guy's remarks and Destiny's are comparable or anything about jail/fines, I want to just emphasize that there are certain things that are accepted as sensitive subjects, or are, as InControL calls "lightning rod" words** If Destiny isn't looking to be anything more than just a normal guy who streams for a job as income and doesn't care about hurting potential sponsorship opportunities, then that's fine, I can respect that as well. | ||
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thesundowners
Canada40 Posts
On June 23 2011 15:17 danbel1005 wrote: Agree 100% sir. Game is Rated T. ![[image loading]](http://www.esrb.org/images/ratingsymbol_t.gif) + Show Spoiler + "Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language." How could someone who is aware of what a T-Rated game means, make a complain about language usage of a random dude on Internet. COMMON!!! There is a HUGE difference between the odd "shit" or "fuck" thrown around by a video game character and the offensive and downright hateful shit you hear on his stream sometimes. | ||
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Aui_2000
Canada435 Posts
On June 23 2011 15:21 zerglingrodeo wrote: Here's what esports doesn't need: players that are both terrible at the game and open heteronormative misogynists. Good riddance Destiny. I hope you don't make any other team. yea destiny is hurting ESPORTS ... | ||
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425kid
416 Posts
The target audience of esports has to be the 16-25 male demographic, that spends a lot of time online. The /b and reddit demographic, and destiny hits that audience perfectly. Which is shown by his extreme popularity streaming. He is a huge asset for any team. They instantly gain thousands of fans and followers just by having destiny wear their tag and having him joke around with their players on skype | ||
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NoobieOne
United States1183 Posts
On June 23 2011 15:21 zerglingrodeo wrote: Here's what esports doesn't need: players that are both terrible at the game and open heteronormative misogynists. Good riddance Destiny. I hope you don't make any other team. Thats an awfully nice post you have there. Destiny has done more for ESPORTS than you ever would. He has 1000s of people watching his stream whenever its on and its on most of the time. I personally am not a fan of his stream but he has definitely been a great influence on the observing of the game. Destiny and Complexity broke up on a misunderstanding about the contract. Destiny never wanted to put that level of involvement into a team but if anyone who is bashing him for his lack of involvement of ESPORTS I challenge them to put 1/4 of the involvement to the scene that he does already. | ||
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Battleaxe
United States843 Posts
On June 23 2011 15:17 danbel1005 wrote: Agree 100% sir. Game is Rated T. + Show Spoiler + "Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language." How could someone who is aware of what a T-Rated game means, make a complain about language usage of a random dude on Internet. COMMON!!! While I understand you're agreeing with nexile, I don't see how what you're saying is relevant. SC2 single player and anything designed by blizzard (text/speech included) is rated "T" by the ESRB, but anyone who has played an online game in the last 5 or so years would have to come across the "Warning: Online interaction not rated by ESRB". It's the internet people, if you're too uptight to be able to handle the language that comes out from another player online, maybe you should be sticking to the single player, or away from that player, plain and simple. Back on topic, seems like a smart decision from both parties. Obviously they did not see eye to eye on certain issues, so they mutually parted ways. Best of luck to Destiny if/when he is approached by another team. | ||
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zerglingrodeo
United States910 Posts
On June 23 2011 15:27 NoobieOne wrote: Thats an awfully nice post you have there. Destiny has done more for ESPORTS than you ever would. He has 1000s of people watching his stream whenever its on and its on most of the time. I personally am not a fan of his stream but he has definitely been a great influence on the observing of the game. Destiny and Complexity broke up on a misunderstanding about the contract. Destiny never wanted to put that level of involvement into a team but if anyone who is bashing him for his lack of involvement of ESPORTS I challenge them to put 1/4 of the involvement to the scene that he does already. I am not saying that Destiny hasn't been 'involved' in esports. Sure, he has streamed a lot. I am saying that people like him (with constant exclamations of 'fag' and jokes about rape) are not what esports needs if it is going to grow. We all know the 'gaming dudes' who call each other 'faggots' all the time because they are immature children. We don't need those immature children representing professional gaming. | ||
Liquid`EliGE
United States527 Posts
On June 23 2011 15:21 zerglingrodeo wrote: Here's what esports doesn't need: players that are both terrible at the game and open heteronormative misogynists. Good riddance Destiny. I hope you don't make any other team. So much hate from your biased opinion :O | ||
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whersmyspacebar
United States220 Posts
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Topdoller
United Kingdom3860 Posts
As a player he has improved considerably but i think him leaving Complex game could be a bad move in the long run if he wishes to have any notable success in the game. Laddering will only get you so far before it become counter productive. For Steve to improve he really needs to decide does he want to stream for a living and be popular, or does he want to practice in a team environment day in day out and actually improve to the next level. At the moment his play is one dimensional and predictable, hence the poor display last night where the opposition clearly knew what he was going to do from the first second of the game and exploited it. He has the ability to get better but sometimes that simply isn't enough. | ||
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WwVudu
United States28 Posts
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badcnr
Canada116 Posts
On June 23 2011 15:26 425kid wrote: The fact that Destiny got an interview from Forbes shows that his language isn't hurting him. The only other pro sc2 player that might be able to do that is Idra. Nobody else has enough appeal to the mainstream. Destiny is not hurting the sc2 community in any way. He gets it more exposure, and shows that you can make a living off of it while not being top top level. Imo, guys in the "mainstream" sc2 community like incontrol should be promoting destiny. He has the personality the sc2 needs if it wants to stop being a niche game. The target audience of esports has to be the 16-25 male demographic, that spends a lot of time online. The /b and reddit demographic, and destiny hits that audience perfectly. Which is shown by his extreme popularity streaming. He is a huge asset for any team. They instantly gain thousands of fans and followers just by having destiny wear their tag and having him joke around with their players on skype Totally agree. I like only a few streams and they are pretty much all different. Day 9 , Djwheat, and Destiny and to be honest if it wasnt for those three i would have stopped watching SC2 long time ago. He provides the entertainment that the other two are missing. With out all three of those kinds of shows out there the whole of esports will start falling. For me at least. I watch tournments that has Destiny, regardless how far he gets. Those three are the main reason i would watch any tournment. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On June 23 2011 15:36 Topdoller wrote: I have been watching his stream for a long while and its biggest pull is his adult approach to the game and the Zerg is "underdog" mentality. Him and Idra re what you might call the bad boys of SC2 and this appeals to a lot of people. As a player he has improved considerably but i think him leaving Complex game could be a bad move in the long run if he wishes to have any notable success in the game. Laddering will only get you so far before it become counter productive. For Steve to improve he really needs to decide does he want to stream for a living and be popular, or does he want to practice in a team environment day in day out and actually improve to the next level. At the moment his play is one dimensional and predictable, hence the poor display last night where the opposition clearly knew what he was going to do from the first second of the game and exploited it. He has the ability to get better but sometimes that simply isn't enough. I have no problem with people enjoying his stream but "Adult approach"? Maybe we just use that word differently as to me acting adult or having a adult approach has to do with being rational, calm and civil - the total opposite of what i've heard on and of the stream. | ||
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