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Actually Major League Gaming revelead false information all of a sudden yesterday, so we need to clarify. Our very own Marcus 'ThorZaIN' Eklöf has accepted GSL Code A status and will compete in GSL Code A in August 2011, however he will NOT compete at the upcoming GSTL for team F.United. We don't know what's about Naniwa, tho.
Mod Edit:
New information from Mouz Facebook
It's not a decision about ThorZaIN, more likely a decision from him. When we read this MLG newspost yesterday, the whole team including ThorZaIN never heard of it before, that he will compete in GSTL. Decision was made earlier that he will accept Code A status granted from his MLG Columbus placement and will travel to Korea in August to compete. Than this weird MLG post went online.
Source: http://www.facebook.com/mousesports/posts/10150203935430906
Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/mousesports/status/80907489977188352
Well thats a bummer.
Mod Edit 2
On June 15 2011 19:45 Thorzain wrote:
To clarify things: I will most likely play GSTL in F.United.
What happened was that I wasn't informed about me playing in the GSTL in the first place until I saw the official GOMTV news. When I saw the news I asked my team about permission and they didn't know about it as well. As long as I wouldn't be representing WMF i was allowed to play.
I sent a mail to GOMTv asking them about that and they said I would be able to represent mouz (shirt etc).
This morning when I woke up I saw this thread with the rather misformulated mousesports-tweet. What they meant was more likely that I'm not confirmed to play in the GSTL yet. However, now when I've cleared things out I will almost certainly still be playing it.
Mod Edit 3
We're pleased to say, that we've worked on a good deal with MLG and GOM, so ThorZaIN is able to compete in GSTL. Although he will travel to Korea in August, all matches from F.United will be postponed, so "white dude" ThorZaIN will be ready to rock some Koreans. Thanks to MLG and GOM who have been very cooperative on this matter and sorry from all parties involved for the rather unnecessary buzz about it.
UPDATE
On June 16 2011 00:11 mouz.MaX wrote:
Sorry for the inconvenience we've caused for the community as well as for GOM/MLG. We are delighted to get a chance to compete in Code A and the GSTL. Seems like the mistake was mainly on our site. Again big thanks to Lee Chen for being so cooperative and helpful all the time.
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don't understand why he wouldn't
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On June 15 2011 17:05 Itsmedudeman wrote:
don't understand why he wouldn't
hours of sitting in the studio while not training I would guess
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What? Why would you not?
Looks like We Made Fox needs some more members.
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that only says that he won't play for F.United
could be that he has already made an arrangement to team up with one of the Korean pro teams other than WeMade such as IM or something and therefore will play for them in the GSTL
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Hmm, that sure is strange that MLG would release information like that without checking with the players/teams.
I think it's the right descision for ThorZain though - If he's serious about making it in Code A, he has to spend his energy there, and not spending it in a teamleague where he was very very little to gain, personally and professionally
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Hmmm sounds wierd, well every one maybe team maybe doesnt want their players to compete for other teams?
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On June 15 2011 17:06 Tofugrinder wrote:hours of sitting in the studio while not training I would guess
If thorzain didnt get to play they'd be stupid, seriously.
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On June 15 2011 17:07 ELA wrote:
Hmm, that sure is strange that MLG would release information like that without checking with the players/teams.
I think it's the right descision for ThorZain though - If he's serious about making it in Code A, he has to spend his energy there, and not spending it in a teamleague where he was very very little to gain, personally and professionally
Thing is Mr Chae released the same information saying the 3 pro gamers that got a seed would join up with We Made Fox so maybe some mis communication?
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On June 15 2011 17:07 sc2olorin wrote:
that only says that he won't play for F.United
could be that he has already made an arrangement to team up with one of the Korean pro teams other than WeMade such as IM or something and therefore will play for them in the GSTL
This seems probable, seeing as mousesports was clear that he wasn't competing for F.United, rather than not competing in the GSTL at all.
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Maybe he found another team since they said 'Not competing in F.united' as opposed to the whole GSTL?
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Aww and here I was looking forward to seeing all-killing some Koreans.
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On June 15 2011 17:06 Tofugrinder wrote:hours of sitting in the studio while not training I would guess
I doubt thorzain is one to train 15 hours a day (no one does this) and could spare some time for this
it's good stage/experience time as well so it's not like you're getting nothing out of it
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sadface.
hopefully mousesports has their own partnership in mind!
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That's pretty unfortunate, at least he will still be participating in Code A. Possible as well that he may assist with another team in the GSTL, but I don't think that is the case. The only thing I can think of why he isn't participating in the GSTL is a schedule conflict.
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=[ maybe thorzain doesn't want to show off his builds where it doesn't count? take that back, really doubt that's the reason.
probably just a time conflict and he can't attend, would like updates though
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Maybe thorzain's management don't want a mouz player to play for a rivaling team or vice versa. Fully understandable imo.
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He is still sponsored by mouz, we don't know what they had to say about the deal ...
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I guess it would be undesirable if one of the sponsors of mouz was a competitor of one of the sponsors of the Korean team (ex. Coke vs. Pepsi) but otherwise, I can't imagine Thorzain playing on a Korean team would be anything but great publicity.
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I just realized GSTL will be every thursday and friday<_<
Anyways he is a player that is very good at preparing for matches.Maybe he feels like team league is a waste of time and would rather practice.If that's so i can understand.
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perhaps he thinks time spent training for GSL will be more beneficial than time spent trying to win for F.united at GSTL
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I don't get it ... It's good opportunity to play, but obviously maybe if his team doesn't want him to play, I couldn't blame him or mouz for it
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Maybe mouz didnt get that Thorzain would represent mouz and play as a mercenary for F.United....
He would still wear his mouz uniform... Sadly this decision would hinder the amount of time that Mouz and its sponsors would be shown in GSL. Its like they are forfeiting showing mouz logo one day, every week.
Dont get the new management of mouz at all
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Well this really sucks. Why wouldn't he do it since he is already going to be there? Mouseports doesn't want him to be associated in any way at all with any other team?
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Conflict of sponsors maybe? thats my best guess.
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NOOOOOOOOOO!
This makes me cry tears of sadness ;_;
I was really looking forward to seeing him in the GSTL
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Mousesports should definitely try to make a deal with some team participating in GSTL, letting Thorzain go to Korea just for Code A is wasteful, he could get much more exposure in GSTL.
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Kinda sucks for now, but seems like MLG/GSL/players/players' management need to clarify a lot of issues for now. I'll wait for updates. They may decide to eventually allow the deal to go through. *shrug* PEOPLE POWER! WE WANT TO SEE IT MOUZ!
But either way, I'm actually really hoping that WeMadeFOX expands though, so that we may get to see them actually be a viable stable team into the long run.
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Who else is in Wemade fox?
Lyn/moon/naniwa(maybe)
???
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im interested to see what happens here, as they specify not playing for fox team, but dont say he wont be playing at all, all the Koreans rate him as one to suceed in Korea, so maybe a Korean team who have similar/same sponsers as Mouz will be having Thorzain in their team, bound to release a statement soon!!
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On June 15 2011 17:06 Tofugrinder wrote:hours of sitting in the studio while not training I would guess
It's a few hours every day and the chance to play in a huge lan tournament against great players for great prize money. The F.United team is tiny anyway. In a best of 7, 4 people can play total, and they have like 5.
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On June 15 2011 17:35 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Who else is in Wemade fox?
Lyn/moon/naniwa(maybe)
???
SaSe if i remember correctly
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Im assuming the asked thorzain and he said yes (otherwise i dont think they would have posted it without some sort of conformation from the players) and then mouz sports saw some sort of conflict (potentially sponsors?) and revoked the decision.
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On June 15 2011 17:38 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 17:35 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Who else is in Wemade fox?
Lyn/moon/naniwa(maybe)
??? SaSe if i remember correctly
SaSe is not confirmed. It's Soccer, who was a member of the WC3 team.
However, I saw some post on PlayXP which was wondering about who the 5th player is, which makes me wonder if Soccer is active at all anymore in SC2. He tried to qualify for the last GSL though which was 1.5 or 2 months ago.
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Well that's unfortunate. Was really looking forward to seeing him play but whatever is best for him!
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On June 15 2011 17:40 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 17:38 Frankon wrote:On June 15 2011 17:35 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Who else is in Wemade fox?
Lyn/moon/naniwa(maybe)
??? SaSe if i remember correctly SaSe is not confirmed. It's Soccer, who was a member of the WC3 team. However, I saw some post on PlayXP which was wondering about who the 5th player is, which makes me wonder if Soccer is active at all anymore in SC2. He tried to qualify for the last GSL though which was 1.5 or 2 months ago.
Theres still another person to be released from MLG who is joining according to their statement. And yeh SaSe is going to Korea but he isn't confirmed to be doing any GSTL yet.
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PS. This needs to be in community news so people would know...
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Damn =( That makes me upset. I didn't think the GSTL could get better and then they made it happen. Now they're taking it away from us =(
At least he's still in Code A
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On June 15 2011 17:39 cheesemaster wrote:
Im assuming the asked thorzain and he said yes (otherwise i dont think they would have posted it without some sort of conformation from the players) and then mouz sports saw some sort of conflict (potentially sponsors?) and revoked the decision.
Yea, thats what most likely happened.
Now I'm more interested in the third player that MLG will announce to join Naniwa.
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Hmmm
MLG wrote: Team Dignitas NaNiwa and mousesports ThorZaiN have accepted Code A status and will be heading to Korea to compete as part of the League Exchange Program. They will also participate in the August GSTL, as a part of Korean pro team WeMadeFox. The third participating player will be announced shortly. Full expenses for all three players will be provided by the GSL. http://bit.ly/mEG1
I think this is the part that mouz objected. I think if he played as a merc for F.United it all would be good.
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On June 15 2011 17:07 ELA wrote:
Hmm, that sure is strange that MLG would release information like that without checking with the players/teams.
I think it's the right descision for ThorZain though - If he's serious about making it in Code A, he has to spend his energy there, and not spending it in a teamleague where he was very very little to gain, personally and professionally
He has everything to gain professionally. Not only will he be able to test his skills against the competitiors he is likely to go up against in GSL, but he will also be able to get used to playing on a GSL stage which will only increase his chances of succeeding.
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code a is much more important for a player as competent as ThorZaIN. gogo code s status!
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Oh my...... Sad face. Would been awesome to see him gstl owning it up.
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This is a really bad decision, whoever made it
so thorzain only has code A to compete and that is not much ..
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On June 15 2011 17:49 Frankon wrote:Hmmm Show nested quote +MLG wrote: Team Dignitas NaNiwa and mousesports ThorZaiN have accepted Code A status and will be heading to Korea to compete as part of the League Exchange Program. They will also participate in the August GSTL, as a part of Korean pro team WeMadeFox. The third participating player will be announced shortly. Full expenses for all three players will be provided by the GSL. http://bit.ly/mEG1 (bolded the important part) I think this is the part that mouz objected. I think if he played as a merc for F.United it all would be good.
F.united IS WemadeFox but with thorzain and nani as mercs.
http://www.gomtv.net/2011super1/news/65543
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On June 15 2011 17:49 Frankon wrote:Hmmm Show nested quote +MLG wrote: Team Dignitas NaNiwa and mousesports ThorZaiN have accepted Code A status and will be heading to Korea to compete as part of the League Exchange Program. They will also participate in the August GSTL, as a part of Korean pro team WeMadeFox. The third participating player will be announced shortly. Full expenses for all three players will be provided by the GSL. http://bit.ly/mEG1 (bolded the important part) I think this is the part that mouz objected. I think if he played as a merc for F.United it all would be good.
I was hoping that was the case, but
"Actually Major League Gaming revelead false information all of a sudden yesterday, so we need to clarify. Our very own Marcus 'ThorZaIN' Eklöf has accepted GSL Code A status and will compete in GSL Code A in August 2011, however he will NOT compete at the upcoming GSTL for team F.United. We don't know what's about Naniwa, tho."
But it's quite clear that there's a lot of things which need to be clarified... Who's the third player? Why are they only going in August and not July?
I'm gonna wait it out and see what happens. Either way hope F United/WeMadeFOX will continue to be active in some capacity.
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On June 15 2011 17:53 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 17:49 Frankon wrote:Hmmm MLG wrote: Team Dignitas NaNiwa and mousesports ThorZaiN have accepted Code A status and will be heading to Korea to compete as part of the League Exchange Program. They will also participate in the August GSTL, as a part of Korean pro team WeMadeFox. The third participating player will be announced shortly. Full expenses for all three players will be provided by the GSL. http://bit.ly/mEG1 (bolded the important part) I think this is the part that mouz objected. I think if he played as a merc for F.United it all would be good. I was hoping that was the case, but "Actually Major League Gaming revelead false information all of a sudden yesterday, so we need to clarify. Our very own Marcus 'ThorZaIN' Eklöf has accepted GSL Code A status and will compete in GSL Code A in August 2011, however he will NOT compete at the upcoming GSTL for team F.United. We don't know what's about Naniwa, tho." But it's quite clear that there's a lot of things which need to be clarified... Who's the third player? Why are they only going in August and not July? I'm gonna wait it out and see what happens. Either way hope F United/WeMadeFOX will continue to be active in some capacity.
It would be funny if the exchange program came as an unbreakable bundle. Code A + GSTL spot. Since mouz refused the GSTL apperance maybe Thorzain wouldnt get code A after all ;P
This would make a bit sense cause Koreans thought that the players that got the code A by their MLG performance might just lose in round 1 of code A and just pack up and leave... Gom gave them a chance at playing for the rest of the month (in GSTL) and now mouz says... Who needs it.
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If Mouz actually blocked this I think there would be a strong incentive for Thorzain to find another team
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Man this news sucks and really doesnt make much sense - at least until we get more information.
Playing in the GSTL would get him alot of games on a big stage and massively increase his fanbase, and provide exposure to Mouz.
Hope we hear the reasons behind this as I'm sure all fans foreigners and koreans alike were looking forward to one of the strongest foreigner's inclusion.
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I was really looking forward to seeing him. Bummer.
So this FOX team is going to have 4 people?
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interesting
then who will?
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Damn was looking forward to seeing him in the GSTL
Hopefully he practices harder for Code A 
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Why do people assume it's mouz that objected to this? Might as well have been Thorzain for whatever reason.
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i really hope naniwa does..
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title is wrong, they say he wont compete for F.U., not that he wont compete in general
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On June 15 2011 17:40 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 17:38 Frankon wrote:On June 15 2011 17:35 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Who else is in Wemade fox?
Lyn/moon/naniwa(maybe)
??? SaSe if i remember correctly SaSe is not confirmed. It's Soccer, who was a member of the WC3 team. However, I saw some post on PlayXP which was wondering about who the 5th player is, which makes me wonder if Soccer is active at all anymore in SC2. He tried to qualify for the last GSL though which was 1.5 or 2 months ago.
SocceR just recently won the StarsWar6 Wc3 tournament so I doubt he has been playing much Sc2 at all lately.
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On June 15 2011 18:12 alepov wrote:
title is wrong, they say he wont compete for F.U., not that he wont compete in general
Well all other teams have their own players to promote.
FXO already stated that they will not be using mercenaries.
Thorzain only chance to play in GSTL was play as merc in Fox United
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On June 15 2011 18:14 Kentakky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 17:40 pdd wrote:On June 15 2011 17:38 Frankon wrote:On June 15 2011 17:35 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Who else is in Wemade fox?
Lyn/moon/naniwa(maybe)
??? SaSe if i remember correctly SaSe is not confirmed. It's Soccer, who was a member of the WC3 team. However, I saw some post on PlayXP which was wondering about who the 5th player is, which makes me wonder if Soccer is active at all anymore in SC2. He tried to qualify for the last GSL though which was 1.5 or 2 months ago. SocceR just recently won the StarsWar6 Wc3 tournament so I doubt he has been playing much Sc2 at all lately.
Pretty sure he has, there is little money left to earn in wc3.
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On June 15 2011 18:14 Kentakky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 17:40 pdd wrote:On June 15 2011 17:38 Frankon wrote:On June 15 2011 17:35 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Who else is in Wemade fox?
Lyn/moon/naniwa(maybe)
??? SaSe if i remember correctly SaSe is not confirmed. It's Soccer, who was a member of the WC3 team. However, I saw some post on PlayXP which was wondering about who the 5th player is, which makes me wonder if Soccer is active at all anymore in SC2. He tried to qualify for the last GSL though which was 1.5 or 2 months ago. SocceR just recently won the StarsWar6 Wc3 tournament so I doubt he has been playing much Sc2 at all lately.
Well they seem to practice for what's coming up and the GSL qualifiers are coming this weekend (last we heard)... and I guess he can fill in if they need a player. *shrug*
Oh speaking of which and off topic, but I just realized Moon's going to Dreamhack which means he probably won't be qualifying for the GSL (unless they changed the date without announcing).
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Thorzain wtf man, I thought you would get used to playing live in korea and own up the GSTL.
Then you do this
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I don't care as long as wemadefox still in.
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On June 15 2011 18:24 skullhoof wrote:
I don't care as long as wemadefox still in.
There might be a possibility that they wont be... They need at least 5 players. Since mouz doesnt allow Thorzain to play for them they would have tough time getting those 5 players required.
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sad, but...
On June 15 2011 17:07 sc2olorin wrote:
that only says that he won't play for F.United
could be that he has already made an arrangement to team up with one of the Korean pro teams other than WeMade such as IM or something and therefore will play for them in the GSTL
hopefully that's what they mean :/
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On June 15 2011 18:26 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 18:24 skullhoof wrote:
I don't care as long as wemadefox still in. There might be a possibility that they wont be... They need at least 5 players. Since mouz doesnt allow Thorzain to play for them they would have tough time getting those 5 players required.
did you take MLG's third player into acct?
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On June 15 2011 18:23 HeIios wrote:Thorzain wtf man, I thought you would get used to playing live in korea and own up the GSTL. Then you do this
I honestly don't think its Thorzain I mean why compete in GSL Code A, but scared to play in GSTL doesn't make sense. Maybe Mouz has something planned for GSTL this season maybe a merge with another team? who knows i wish they would explain this decision a lil bit better.
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On June 15 2011 18:28 zaii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 18:26 Frankon wrote:On June 15 2011 18:24 skullhoof wrote:
I don't care as long as wemadefox still in. There might be a possibility that they wont be... They need at least 5 players. Since mouz doesnt allow Thorzain to play for them they would have tough time getting those 5 players required. did you take MLG's third player into acct?
Isnt he already on FXO and playing in GSTL?
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On June 15 2011 18:33 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 18:28 zaii wrote:On June 15 2011 18:26 Frankon wrote:On June 15 2011 18:24 skullhoof wrote:
I don't care as long as wemadefox still in. There might be a possibility that they wont be... They need at least 5 players. Since mouz doesnt allow Thorzain to play for them they would have tough time getting those 5 players required. did you take MLG's third player into acct? Isnt he already on FXO and playing in GSTL?
No.. MLG didn't announce the third player yet.
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Hmm.. sounds like he's not interested in staying there if he gets eliminated and doesn't want to bind himself to play for F United. Bummer. We'll see how GSL/MLG/FOX deal with this.
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It would be sick if this was because IM will pick Thorzain.
I don't think this is the reason though, but one can dream.
edit: nvm, just read what was written on facebook.
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What a stupid decision. It's a great opportunity to grow as a player if he were to compete in GSTL.
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talk about jumping into conclusions -_-
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looks like there is not any decision at all, just that they haven't had any contact with F.united.
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How can GomTV announce this wihtout even speakign with Thorzain or Mousesport first?
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if he wasnt contacted yet, ok, i get it.
if he changed his mind and wont compete live on television, well that's just... dumb. especially for him, with MLG being his first LAN event and all...
GSTL is such a big experience for any player...
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What, MLG didn't feel like informing Thorzain about adding him to F.United's roster? Seems like bad organization to me. I wonder if Naniwa knew beforehand, and if he's going to play with WMF.
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Communication ftw ! xD T_T
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Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...
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This F. United seems like a silly idea anyway... It's not like they'll be able to compete with a solid team that knows its members inside out.
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They said August 2011, but they must mean July, no? GSL Code S/A is every other month, the next one wouldn't be until September I think.
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I hope at least Naniwa is still playing.
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ThorZain. Please compete in the GSTL. Pretty please.
GoMTV and/or MLG should be more careful releasing things like this though. They look like amateurs now.
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Probably sponsor problems. My bet is that he will play for another team though.
EDIT
And then I read that facebook thingy = )
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On June 15 2011 18:48 snotboogie wrote:
I hope at least Naniwa is still playing.
As mouz said, the Code A spot for Thorzain seems to be in August. I wouldn't be surprised if Naniwa will go there at the same time as they were at the same MLG to earn this spot.
GSTL starts next week.
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On June 15 2011 18:51 (Max 20 chars) wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 18:48 snotboogie wrote:
I hope at least Naniwa is still playing. As mouz said, the Code A spot for Thorzain seems to be in August. I wouldn't be surprised if Naniwa will go there at the same time as they were at the same MLG to earn this spot. GSTL starts next week.
They were supposed to compete in the GSTL August not this GSTL?
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This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.
Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August.
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Oh, maybe that got wrong a bit in the end. We don't have any problem with our players competing in other teams which are set up for a special tournament (F.United for GSTL in this case; MorroW in the World All-Star team before). We just meant the fact, that ThorZaIN was announced for GSTL, which really surprised us and we haven't been contacted before neither bei MLG nor GOM officials or press coordinators or anyone else.
Official mouz response.
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Communication error/fail for the win. ><.
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On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
F.U doesnt play untill week 6.
That could work. If he's going to Korea in August and F.U doesn't play in GSTL for this long, they could still make everything work.
As long as Thorzains wants to.
And i'd love to see him compete in the GSTL.
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On June 15 2011 18:51 (Max 20 chars) wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 18:48 snotboogie wrote:
I hope at least Naniwa is still playing. As mouz said, the Code A spot for Thorzain seems to be in August. I wouldn't be surprised if Naniwa will go there at the same time as they were at the same MLG to earn this spot. GSTL starts next week.
The team dosent play till 6'th week into the tournement tho
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There could be any number of reasons, please don't jump to conclusions. He could be busy with a family member's wedding, or any other normal real life situation making him unavailable.
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On June 15 2011 18:46 Frankon wrote:
Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...
How's this relevant?
GOM have so far done almost flawlessly in terms of communication... the only complaint I've heard from players is that GSL releases their maps a bit late. But I think this has been rectified.
On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.
Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August.
The next GSTL takes place over 3 months and 1 week. The final is in early October actually. So far they haven't announced the title for this GSTL.
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They said ThorZain won't play for WeMadeFox, however it is still possible that he will play for another team, for one reason or another? Maybe he doesn't want to stay in Korea for extra 5 weeks, if he drops out of Code A.
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huh did I miss something?
what is F.united o.0
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On June 15 2011 19:09 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 18:46 Frankon wrote:
Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...
How's this relevant? GOM have so far done almost flawlessly in terms of communication... the only complaint I've heard from players is that GSL releases their maps a bit late. But I think this has been rectified. Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.
Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August. The next GSTL takes place over 3 months and 1 week. The final is in early October actually. So far they haven't announced the title for this GSTL.
Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication?
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Thorzain is pretty good I don't think he'd do well in GSTL format. When he's prepared for his opponent he is a force to reckoned with, but when it comes to spontaneity there is still much to be desired from him.
Whatever his decision to not play may be, goodluck to him in the GSL.
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On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:
Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication?
Yes its bad, but that wasn't GOM. It was MLG that announced it, therefore blaming Goms communication seems a bit silly.
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On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 19:09 pdd wrote:On June 15 2011 18:46 Frankon wrote:
Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...
How's this relevant? GOM have so far done almost flawlessly in terms of communication... the only complaint I've heard from players is that GSL releases their maps a bit late. But I think this has been rectified. On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.
Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August. The next GSTL takes place over 3 months and 1 week. The final is in early October actually. So far they haven't announced the title for this GSTL. Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication?
It is. But I don't see how it should be an issue which we should make into a bigger deal than it is.
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On June 15 2011 19:16 Dustus wrote:
Yes its bad, but that wasn't GOM. It was MLG that announced it, therefore blaming Goms communication seems a bit silly.
GOM also did announce it, even a few hours earlier than MLG in the GSTL newspost.
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Sounds like bad communication indeed, but even so... why would you not? You're there, you might as well play.
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I just read through the twitter/facebook links, and to clarify:
Mouz and ThorZain weren't aware of any plans for GSTL / F.United to occur.
They are not against it; they are not saying it won't happen; just that no one ran it by them.
I guess GOM are making the opportunity available publicly before privately, which is a bit strange.
Krzysztof Narloch yet your clarification caused a bit of uproar. [...]
mousesports Oh, maybe that got wrong a bit in the end. We don't have any problem with our players competing in other teams which are set up for a special tournament (F.United for GSTL in this case; MorroW in the World All-Star team before). We just meant the fact, that ThorZaIN was announced for GSTL, which really surprised us and we haven't been contacted before neither bei MLG nor GOM officials or press coordinators or anyone else.
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On June 15 2011 19:16 Dustus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:
Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication? Yes its bad, but that wasn't GOM. It was MLG that announced it, therefore blaming Goms communication seems a bit silly.
they did announce it go check gom out
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On June 15 2011 19:23 jaycee wrote:I just read through the twitter/facebook links, and to clarify: Mouz and ThorZain weren't aware of any plans for GSTL / F.United to occur. They are not against it; they are not saying it won't happen; just that no one ran it by them. I guess GOM are making the opportunity available publicly before privately, which is a bit strange. Show nested quote +Krzysztof Narloch yet your clarification caused a bit of uproar. [...]
mousesports Oh, maybe that got wrong a bit in the end. We don't have any problem with our players competing in other teams which are set up for a special tournament (F.United for GSTL in this case; MorroW in the World All-Star team before). We just meant the fact, that ThorZaIN was announced for GSTL, which really surprised us and we haven't been contacted before neither bei MLG nor GOM officials or press coordinators or anyone else.
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Hmm... they do say that Thorzain likely won't accept in their 1st response. Not sure though. I guess it's worth the wait to see if he accepts.
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Ok pls. some moderator change the thread title.
Thorzain will most likely play in GSTL.
On June 15 2011 19:18 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 15 2011 19:09 pdd wrote:On June 15 2011 18:46 Frankon wrote:
Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...
How's this relevant? GOM have so far done almost flawlessly in terms of communication... the only complaint I've heard from players is that GSL releases their maps a bit late. But I think this has been rectified. On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.
Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August. The next GSTL takes place over 3 months and 1 week. The final is in early October actually. So far they haven't announced the title for this GSTL. Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication? It is. But I don't see how it should be an issue which we should make into a bigger deal than it is.
If it happened once it would be overlooked. But it happened the second time.
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On June 15 2011 19:29 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 19:18 pdd wrote:On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 15 2011 19:09 pdd wrote:On June 15 2011 18:46 Frankon wrote:
Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...
How's this relevant? GOM have so far done almost flawlessly in terms of communication... the only complaint I've heard from players is that GSL releases their maps a bit late. But I think this has been rectified. On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.
Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August. The next GSTL takes place over 3 months and 1 week. The final is in early October actually. So far they haven't announced the title for this GSTL. Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication? It is. But I don't see how it should be an issue which we should make into a bigger deal than it is. If it happened once it would be overlooked. But it happened the second time.
When did it happen a first time?
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probably because Mouz and Thorzain were a bit putout at not being advised or spoke to regarding this, and MLG most likely auto assumed(wrongly by look of it) that Thorzain would play in the GSTL for that team after accepting the Code A invite and advised GOM of this, so not really GOM's fault they just assumed that MLG had already spoke to Mouz and Thorzain.
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On June 15 2011 19:30 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 19:29 Frankon wrote:On June 15 2011 19:18 pdd wrote:On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 15 2011 19:09 pdd wrote:On June 15 2011 18:46 Frankon wrote:
Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...
How's this relevant? GOM have so far done almost flawlessly in terms of communication... the only complaint I've heard from players is that GSL releases their maps a bit late. But I think this has been rectified. On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.
Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August. The next GSTL takes place over 3 months and 1 week. The final is in early October actually. So far they haven't announced the title for this GSTL. Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication? It is. But I don't see how it should be an issue which we should make into a bigger deal than it is. If it happened once it would be overlooked. But it happened the second time. When did it happen a first time?
World Tournament... Western teams got a message from gom less than a week before it started...
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im getting kinda sick of these rumours, noone knows nothing for sure but states a lot..
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On June 15 2011 19:31 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 19:30 pdd wrote:On June 15 2011 19:29 Frankon wrote:On June 15 2011 19:18 pdd wrote:On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 15 2011 19:09 pdd wrote:On June 15 2011 18:46 Frankon wrote:
Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...
How's this relevant? GOM have so far done almost flawlessly in terms of communication... the only complaint I've heard from players is that GSL releases their maps a bit late. But I think this has been rectified. On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.
Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August. The next GSTL takes place over 3 months and 1 week. The final is in early October actually. So far they haven't announced the title for this GSTL. Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication? It is. But I don't see how it should be an issue which we should make into a bigger deal than it is. If it happened once it would be overlooked. But it happened the second time. When did it happen a first time? World Tournament... Western teams got a message from gom less than a week before it started...
1. It was 3 weeks notice before departure and it was their first venture to reach out to the foreigners.
Quoting from Xeris's post.
The fact that GOM notified foreign players basically three weeks before they would need to actually go to Korea leaves teams and organizations a VERY limited time to make accommodations.
2. The players who were invited all ended up arriving anyway and it wasn't a very big deal. Just a lot of inconvenience to the managers of the team.
3. Dreamhack also has its fair of setbacks with almost half of the Koreans invited not going although they had pre-announced them as invited. No one's blaming them for jumping the gun on the announcement. (I'm aware that they weren't announcing false information when they made the announcements, but the point is things like these happen and there's still time to rectify it... no need to make a big deal about it).
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To clarify things: I will most likely play GSTL in F.United.
What happened was that I wasn't informed about me playing in the GSTL in the first place until I saw the official GOMTV news. When I saw the news I asked my team about permission and they didn't know about it as well. As long as I wouldn't be representing WMF i was allowed to play.
I sent a mail to GOMTv asking them about that and they said I would be able to represent mouz (shirt etc).
This morning when I woke up I saw this thread with the rather misformulated mousesports-tweet. What they meant was more likely that I'm not confirmed to play in the GSTL yet. However, now when I've cleared things out I will almost certainly still be playing it.
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mouz should really get someone with full control over the english language to do their fb for them
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On June 15 2011 19:40 pdd wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 15 2011 19:31 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 19:30 pdd wrote:On June 15 2011 19:29 Frankon wrote:On June 15 2011 19:18 pdd wrote:On June 15 2011 19:12 Nerdslayer wrote:On June 15 2011 19:09 pdd wrote:On June 15 2011 18:46 Frankon wrote:
Looks like for once Xeris was right about communication skills of GOM...
How's this relevant? GOM have so far done almost flawlessly in terms of communication... the only complaint I've heard from players is that GSL releases their maps a bit late. But I think this has been rectified. On June 15 2011 18:57 Nevarix wrote:
This is GSTL August. F.U doesnt play untill week 6.
Edit: To clarify, next GSTL is GSTL August. The finals are in August, hence GSTL August. The next GSTL takes place over 3 months and 1 week. The final is in early October actually. So far they haven't announced the title for this GSTL. Making an announcement that Thorzain will play in the F.United team in the GSL without even speaking to thorzain or his team isnt that bad communication? It is. But I don't see how it should be an issue which we should make into a bigger deal than it is. If it happened once it would be overlooked. But it happened the second time. When did it happen a first time? World Tournament... Western teams got a message from gom less than a week before it started... 1. It was 3 weeks notice before departure and it was their first venture to reach out to the foreigners. Quoting from Xeris's post. The fact that GOM notified foreign players basically three weeks before they would need to actually go to Korea leaves teams and organizations a VERY limited time to make accommodations. 2. The players who were invited all ended up arriving anyway and it wasn't a very big deal. Just a lot of inconvenience to the managers of the team. 3. Dreamhack also has its fair of setbacks with almost half of the Koreans invited not going although they had pre-announced them as invited. No one's blaming them for jumping the gun on the announcement. (I'm aware that they weren't announcing false information when they made the announcements, but the point is things like these happen and there's still time to rectify it... no need to make a big deal about it).
lol
3 weeks notice to decide whether or not your entire team wants to go to south korea for over a month at a chance to win some money by playing the best people in the world is a very big deal, only the players who ACCEPTED the invites ended up arriving, and it's still a huge hassle for them
also, the koreans dreamhack had invited accepted the invite then backed out, they didn't jump the gun, it's 100% the fault of the koreans, that's not a fair comparison at all
@thorzain YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Update - Nuke thread of Mod to update first page please?
mousesports
We're pleased to say, that we've worked on a good deal with MLG and GOM, so ThorZaIN is able to compete in GSTL. Although he will travel to Korea in August, all matches from F.United will be postponed, so "white dude" ThorZaIN will be ready to rock some Koreans. Thanks to MLG and GOM who have been very cooperative on this matter and sorry from all parties involved for the rather unnecessary buzz about it.
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On June 15 2011 19:45 Thorzain wrote:
To clarify things: I will most likely play GSTL in F.United.
What happened was that I wasn't informed about me playing in the GSTL in the first place until I saw the official GOMTV news. When I saw the news I asked my team about permission and they didn't know about it as well. As long as I wouldn't be representing WMF i was allowed to play.
I sent a mail to GOMTv asking them about that and they said I would be able to represent mouz (shirt etc).
This morning when I woke up I saw this thread with the rather misformulated mousesports-tweet. What they meant was more likely that I'm not confirmed to play in the GSTL yet. However, now when I've cleared things out I will almost certainly still be playing it.
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Sweeet, very kind of GOM.
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On June 15 2011 17:35 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Who else is in Wemade fox?
Lyn/moon/naniwa(maybe)
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Soccer !!!! Why does everyone forget about soccer.... he was top 3 night elf in wc3 and he plays very well at sc2 too (protoss)...
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Sorry for being really ignorant, but what is F.United?
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Phew, glad that all got sorted out. Guess title and op should be edited. Thorzain fighting!
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On June 15 2011 19:45 Liquid`Ret wrote:
mouz should really get someone with full control over the english language to do their fb for them
Almost Hot_Bid level of trollness...
To the guys who didnt get it... Team Liquid hired Bumblebee from mouz (their best manager for sc2)
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thanks for clearing that up t-zain, good luck in korea!
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On June 15 2011 19:50 AxionSteel wrote:
Sorry for being really ignorant, but what is F.United?
Fox United(WeMadeFox + Thorzain/Naniwa)
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On June 15 2011 19:50 AxionSteel wrote:
Sorry for being really ignorant, but what is F.United?
It's the name of the combined WeMadeFOX and MLG players team. No idea what the F stands for. Probably FOX/Foreigners.
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On June 15 2011 19:45 Thorzain wrote:
To clarify things: I will most likely play GSTL in F.United.
What happened was that I wasn't informed about me playing in the GSTL in the first place until I saw the official GOMTV news. When I saw the news I asked my team about permission and they didn't know about it as well. As long as I wouldn't be representing WMF i was allowed to play.
I sent a mail to GOMTv asking them about that and they said I would be able to represent mouz (shirt etc).
This morning when I woke up I saw this thread with the rather misformulated mousesports-tweet. What they meant was more likely that I'm not confirmed to play in the GSTL yet. However, now when I've cleared things out I will almost certainly still be playing it.
Awesome. Would love to see you compete in the GSTL if it works out :D.
Not to mention seeing you in code A :D. Best of luck in Korea Thorzain .
Btw, you winning the TSL was probably one of the most awesome SC2 moments for me yet :D!
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On June 15 2011 19:45 Thorzain wrote:
To clarify things: I will most likely play GSTL in F.United.
What happened was that I wasn't informed about me playing in the GSTL in the first place until I saw the official GOMTV news. When I saw the news I asked my team about permission and they didn't know about it as well. As long as I wouldn't be representing WMF i was allowed to play.
I sent a mail to GOMTv asking them about that and they said I would be able to represent mouz (shirt etc).
This morning when I woke up I saw this thread with the rather misformulated mousesports-tweet. What they meant was more likely that I'm not confirmed to play in the GSTL yet. However, now when I've cleared things out I will almost certainly still be playing it.
very very good!. thanks and good luck marcus!
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On June 15 2011 19:45 Thorzain wrote:
To clarify things: I will most likely play GSTL in F.United.
What happened was that I wasn't informed about me playing in the GSTL in the first place until I saw the official GOMTV news. When I saw the news I asked my team about permission and they didn't know about it as well. As long as I wouldn't be representing WMF i was allowed to play.
I sent a mail to GOMTv asking them about that and they said I would be able to represent mouz (shirt etc).
This morning when I woke up I saw this thread with the rather misformulated mousesports-tweet. What they meant was more likely that I'm not confirmed to play in the GSTL yet. However, now when I've cleared things out I will almost certainly still be playing it.
Glad that got all cleared up can't wait to see how it turns out, GL!
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Glad this was all sorted out. Thanks for the post update!
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this was confusing....happy that it was only a misunderstanding.....i would have been so upset
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It was just a misunderstanding / miscommunication between us, the player and GOM/MLG on the other side. Everything is solved and ThorZaIN will definitely play the GSTL. No need to question the team or one of our managers.
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Man people were quick to bash mouz for "not letting" thorzain play in the GSTL lol.. quite funny when its just that they were never asked
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On June 15 2011 20:06 BigLighthouse wrote:
Man people were quick to bash mouz for "not letting" thorzain play in the GSTL lol.. quite funny when its just that they were never asked
It seems like a normal reaction given this:
however he will NOT compete at the upcoming GSTL for team F.United.
It was just poorly worded and it's fixed now. Edited all the responses into the OP. Show's over.
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GOM/MLG should have contacted mouz.
But mouz should have contacted GOM for information before posting to the public.
All this didnt really need to happen.
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On June 15 2011 20:06 BigLighthouse wrote:
Man people were quick to bash mouz for "not letting" thorzain play in the GSTL lol.. quite funny when its just that they were never asked
Based on the all info available at the time mouz wasnt letting him play...
It was later fixed by mouz managers with following posts
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On June 15 2011 19:45 Thorzain wrote:
To clarify things: I will most likely play GSTL in F.United.
What happened was that I wasn't informed about me playing in the GSTL in the first place until I saw the official GOMTV news. When I saw the news I asked my team about permission and they didn't know about it as well. As long as I wouldn't be representing WMF i was allowed to play.
I sent a mail to GOMTv asking them about that and they said I would be able to represent mouz (shirt etc).
This morning when I woke up I saw this thread with the rather misformulated mousesports-tweet. What they meant was more likely that I'm not confirmed to play in the GSTL yet. However, now when I've cleared things out I will almost certainly still be playing it.
Thank god, I cannot wait to see you play in Korea!!! looking forward to you rocking those koreans!!!!
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I love how committed GOM is to expanding the foreign scene. I get more impressed by them every day (especially compared to, say, KESPA).
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Thankfully they should be able to work this out. It would have been disappointing not to see Thorzain have a chance to all kill a Korean pro team. 
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yay good new in the end! gogo TZ show those korean who's boss!
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Lol the title of this thread took a 180 degree change. Foreigners rejoice!
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Excellent, glad its sorted out
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I went from worried, to sad, to hopeful and finally happy again all in five minutes of reading this thread. Thorzain fighting~
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i cant blame GOM/MLG for getting ahead of themselves and putting the word out there before contacts were made with Mouz and ThorZain respetively. big news are hard to manage, it was like bringing MKP or MVP to next MLG, only the other way around: some gsl/mlg official just couldnt resist the inner nerd and went on to hype ppl
im so glad ThorZain will be in GSTL
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I hope Thorzain does well in GSTL and GSL August! Maybe he'll even surpass Jinro's accomplisments when he gets into Code S.
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Thorzain better start practicing after match ceremonies.
On June 15 2011 20:50 Beyonder wrote:Happy everyone came together to creat this situation. Awesome from all parties involved, very excited about the GSTL !
This would sound so bad a hour ago ^^
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Thank God it was just a misunderstanding.
Looking forward to this a lot!
GoGo God of Thunder!
Smack some Koreans around with your hammer.
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Thank you Thorzain
Thank you Mouz
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Yes, that's awesome! ThorZain hwaiting!
EDIT: Are Thorzain and Naniwa going to be playing in the upcoming season of GSTL or the one after?
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On June 15 2011 21:14 snotboogie wrote:
Yes, that's awesome! ThorZain hwaiting!
EDIT: Are Thorzain and Naniwa going to be playing in the upcoming season of GSTL or the one after?
The upcoming season, but it's a different format then it has been in the past. It has a round robin pool play section that's broadcast every thursday and friday, but the F.United games have all been organized to be 6 weeks in and later so that thorzain and naniwa going over lines up with code-a play.
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gomtv are fucking awesome
they are bending over backwards to accommodate the foreign scene and promote sc2 in general
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very good news that he is playing. happy about this indeed!
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On June 15 2011 21:36 Dingobloo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 21:14 snotboogie wrote:
Yes, that's awesome! ThorZain hwaiting!
EDIT: Are Thorzain and Naniwa going to be playing in the upcoming season of GSTL or the one after? The upcoming season, but it's a different format then it has been in the past. It has a round robin pool play section that's broadcast every thursday and friday, but the F.United games have all been organized to be 6 weeks in and later so that thorzain and naniwa going over lines up with code-a play.
Ah that's awesome. Thanks man.
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Sorry for the inconvenience we've caused for the community as well as for GOM/MLG. We are delighted to get a chance to compete in Code A and the GSTL. Seems like the mistake was mainly on our site. Again big thanks to Lee Chen for being so cooperative and helpful all the time.
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On June 16 2011 00:11 mouz.MaX wrote:
Sorry for the inconvenience we've caused for the community as well as for GOM/MLG. We are delighted to get a chance to compete in Code A and the GSTL. Seems like the mistake was mainly on our site. Again big thanks to Lee Chen for being so cooperative and helpful all the time.
You will be forgiven after Thorzain wins code A ;-P
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Go Thorzain!! Take it to them buddy!
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On June 16 2011 00:15 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 00:11 mouz.MaX wrote:
Sorry for the inconvenience we've caused for the community as well as for GOM/MLG. We are delighted to get a chance to compete in Code A and the GSTL. Seems like the mistake was mainly on our site. Again big thanks to Lee Chen for being so cooperative and helpful all the time. You will be forgiven after Thorzain wins code A ;-P
glad everything is worked out, can't wait to see Thorzain destroy!
EDIT: God damn misquote!
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reading this thread with all the edits made me confused, then upset, then relieved and then I laughed. I can't wait to see Thorzain at the GSTL :D
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Happy that he's still playing
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I am so happy that he is infact playing in the GSTL that Im going to harass my parents to buy a pass for GSTL (Im not sure how that works never bought one...and now with the new format...do I buy only for GSTL? Or do I have to buy a bigger one that has GSL and GSTL together? Got to check that out later!)....Im usually good at harassing in SC2 lets see if that translates into IRL ^^ lol
GL TZ and Nani....and tho WMF is in a really tough group, I hope our foreign duo can take a few matches for them....anybody knows who is the third foreigner?
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Glad that sorted its self out while I was in an exam :p. Can't wait to find out the 3rd player :D
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Just to clarify, Thorzain (and the other MLG guys) be playing with WMF as F.United while FXO will have a roster entirely on their own? Is this right?
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On June 16 2011 00:19 KobraKay wrote:
I am so happy that he is infact playing in the GSTL that Im going to harass my parents to buy a pass for GSTL (Im not sure how that works never bought one...and now with the new format...do I buy only for GSTL? Or do I have to buy a bigger one that has GSL and GSTL together? Got to check that out later!)....Im usually good at harassing in SC2 lets see if that translates into IRL ^^ lol
GL TZ and Nani....and tho WMF is in a really tough group, I hope our foreign duo can take a few matches for them....anybody knows who is the third foreigner?
I remember reading that MYMSase would be at the foreigner house this time around, although I haven't seen anything about him playing in gstl.
@poster above me: that's right, FXO has its own roster as a full team.
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On June 16 2011 00:23 Mazer wrote:
Just to clarify, Thorzain (and the other MLG guys) be playing with WMF as F.United while FXO will have a roster entirely on their own? Is this right?
Yes, that is correct
On June 16 2011 00:25 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 00:19 KobraKay wrote:
I am so happy that he is infact playing in the GSTL that Im going to harass my parents to buy a pass for GSTL (Im not sure how that works never bought one...and now with the new format...do I buy only for GSTL? Or do I have to buy a bigger one that has GSL and GSTL together? Got to check that out later!)....Im usually good at harassing in SC2 lets see if that translates into IRL ^^ lol
GL TZ and Nani....and tho WMF is in a really tough group, I hope our foreign duo can take a few matches for them....anybody knows who is the third foreigner? I remember reading that MYMSase would be at the foreigner house this time around, although I haven't seen anything about him playing in gstl.
But SaSe is there because of road to Korea or something right? Im talking about the third player from MLG Im not exactly sure but I believe SaSe is only going for GSL and not GSTL.
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On June 16 2011 00:25 KobraKay wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 00:23 Mazer wrote:
Just to clarify, Thorzain (and the other MLG guys) be playing with WMF as F.United while FXO will have a roster entirely on their own? Is this right? Yes, that is correct
Awesome, thanks.
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On June 16 2011 00:23 Mazer wrote:
Just to clarify, Thorzain (and the other MLG guys) be playing with WMF as F.United while FXO will have a roster entirely on their own? Is this right?
yes. 3 invitees from MLG (Thorzain, naniwa and another unannounced[unless it is sheth in that case he plays with fxo]) will play with FUnited. FXO is basically an invited team.
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This is awesome. Definately getting another GSL VOD ticket !
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I'm gonna buy the ticket this season for sure!
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btw GSTL is not free is it?
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On June 16 2011 00:26 Dac wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 00:23 Mazer wrote:
Just to clarify, Thorzain (and the other MLG guys) be playing with WMF as F.United while FXO will have a roster entirely on their own? Is this right? yes. 3 invitees from MLG (Thorzain, naniwa and another unannounced[unless it is sheth in that case he plays with fxo]) will play with FUnited. FXO is basically an invited team.
Don't forgett that by the Time F.United starts playing in teh GSTL is Week 6 of the tournament.
This is a week after MLG anaheim, so there might be anouther couple of foreginers to add to that roster.
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sounds like a sponsor problem. To me it sounds like they want to make sure he is representing the mouz brand and not WMF. Probably will be worked out by both parties I'm sure.
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On June 16 2011 00:36 Souljah wrote:
sounds like a sponsor problem. To me it sounds like they want to make sure he is representing the mouz brand and not WMF. Probably will be worked out by both parties I'm sure.
It is worked out.
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On June 16 2011 00:36 Souljah wrote:
sounds like a sponsor problem. To me it sounds like they want to make sure he is representing the mouz brand and not WMF. Probably will be worked out by both parties I'm sure.
you might wanna read the first post again and get updated
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On June 16 2011 00:11 mouz.MaX wrote:
Sorry for the inconvenience we've caused for the community as well as for GOM/MLG. We are delighted to get a chance to compete in Code A and the GSTL. Seems like the mistake was mainly on our site. Again big thanks to Lee Chen for being so cooperative and helpful all the time.
Thanks MaX. All good.
I think I caused some confusion too bcs I sent Thorzain an email about the GSTL piece which he evidently didn't get. Django, Marcus and I have all spoken now, so I believe we're squared away.
Net/net, Thorzain's playing in Code A and GSTL with F.United (and wearing the Mouz jersey!).
GLHF!
Lee
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Everything back to "fuck yeah!" then!
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On June 16 2011 00:28 zaii wrote:
btw GSTL is not free is it?
No. it was 5 bucks for 1 week tournament but with the new format i don't know. Maybe it's been mentioned somewhere but i missed it. Possible that they will just tie it with the GSL subscription though since GSTL basically replaces GSL on thursday and friday.
Whatever the pricing scheme, i'll just say that GSTL has always been the best value for money. If you can only pay for one Starcraft 2 tournament, go for GSTL.
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So problems solved? Then fuck yeah !!!
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On June 16 2011 01:01 FliedLice wrote:
Everything back to "fuck yeah!" then!
About time too~
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These upcoming GSL/GSTL are going to be super sweet. Be ready to take my money, GOMTV!
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America! Fuck Yeah!
Maybe that joke is dead now, if so I will secretely call F.United "Team America" only to myself.
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On June 16 2011 01:01 FliedLice wrote:
Everything back to "fuck yeah!" then!
Fuck Yeah!
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Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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Drop the hammer Thorzain!
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On June 16 2011 01:23 TheBanana wrote:
America! Fuck Yeah!
Maybe that joke is dead now, if so I will secretely call F.United "Team America" only to myself.
I will call it "Team Korean" :D
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On June 16 2011 01:05 dtz wrote:Whatever the pricing scheme, i'll just say that GSTL has always been the best value for money. If you can only pay for one Starcraft 2 tournament, go for GSTL.
I very much agree with this. GSTL is the one tournament I will never miss.
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On June 16 2011 01:32 skullhoof wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 01:23 TheBanana wrote:
America! Fuck Yeah!
Maybe that joke is dead now, if so I will secretely call F.United "Team America" only to myself.
I will call it "Team Korean" :D
You can't do that, that's preposterous. There are Koreans on the team.
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It's tempted to change F. United to F. United States or F. USA but that seems to have the opposite of the desired effect
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So everyone's happy now. I love these kinds of happy endings. ^_^
Also, F. (what does the F stand for anyway, Fox?) United needs a Liquipedia page, the GSTL4 page also shows WeMadeFOX participating, which is incorrect (and as we've seen from this episode, correctly showing who is representing what is actually big deal).
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hmm, maybe Free agents United ? but that should be FA United though.. either way, its great to see Thorzain in Korea! Especially in the GSTL.
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On June 16 2011 00:30 Aic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 00:26 Dac wrote:On June 16 2011 00:23 Mazer wrote:
Just to clarify, Thorzain (and the other MLG guys) be playing with WMF as F.United while FXO will have a roster entirely on their own? Is this right? yes. 3 invitees from MLG (Thorzain, naniwa and another unannounced[unless it is sheth in that case he plays with fxo]) will play with FUnited. FXO is basically an invited team. Don't forgett that by the Time F.United starts playing in teh GSTL is Week 6 of the tournament. This is a week after MLG anaheim, so there might be anouther couple of foreginers to add to that roster.
I hope you are right
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On June 17 2011 00:55 Dac wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 00:30 Aic wrote:On June 16 2011 00:26 Dac wrote:On June 16 2011 00:23 Mazer wrote:
Just to clarify, Thorzain (and the other MLG guys) be playing with WMF as F.United while FXO will have a roster entirely on their own? Is this right? yes. 3 invitees from MLG (Thorzain, naniwa and another unannounced[unless it is sheth in that case he plays with fxo]) will play with FUnited. FXO is basically an invited team. Don't forgett that by the Time F.United starts playing in teh GSTL is Week 6 of the tournament. This is a week after MLG anaheim, so there might be anouther couple of foreginers to add to that roster. I hope you are right
Unlikely, it would definitely take more than a week to figure out a) Who's taking the spots they got from Aneheim and b) Move the to Korea. It takes longer to plan a move within the same city, let alone to a foreign country with a large language barrier.
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Good news! Looking forward to see with my fellow swede and friend can do in the GSL/GSTL.
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Ready for Thorzain to bring the rain, aha.
His games vs Select were so gooooood at MLG, I think his style would be good in Korea.
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On June 16 2011 02:07 Saishuuheiki wrote:
It's tempted to change F. United to F. United States or F. USA but that seems to have the opposite of the desired effect
Why would it be F. United States or F.USA?
It doesnt make any sense, nor do u lol
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Ouf, confusion!
So, thorzain IS competing in the GSTL
And from what I understand, he's playing games on behalf of WeMadeFox, but he isn't wearing a WMF team shirt, he's wearing his mouz shirt (seems like mouz wasn't really ok with him running around in a WMF shirt, which turned out not to be an issue anyway?)
Edit: Ok, I'm entirely wrong. He's playing for F.United. Who and what is F.United?
Also, Thorzain's icon is 100% badass.
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Of course no team would accept one of it's players(employers) using another team shirt... now that they got the confirmation that thorzain would hear mouz colors they are fine with it.
excellent news! thumbs up for GSL, WMF, mouz and thorzain ;D
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glad to see how this whole thing turned out, can't wait to see "our" guys in the GSTL.
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On June 15 2011 19:50 Cosmos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 17:35 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Who else is in Wemade fox?
Lyn/moon/naniwa(maybe)
??? Soccer !!!! Why does everyone forget about soccer.... he was top 3 night elf in wc3 and he plays very well at sc2 too (protoss)...
I don't know if you knew about this but I figure it would be revelant to you~
SocceR recently won an online tournament! I was informed of this by the WeMade FOX manager through IM and I thought you might wanna know about it! :D
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I'm still hell-confused. What, exactly, is F. United? The first time I ever even heard of it was in the MLG post.. I get that it's affiliated with WMF, but is it actually a team or just a "friends of WMF" badge they made up on the spot to allow Thorzain and Nani to play?
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On June 17 2011 12:15 Belisarius wrote:
I'm still hell-confused. What, exactly, is F. United? The first time I ever even heard of it was in the MLG post.. I get that it's affiliated with WMF, but is it actually a team or just a "friends of WMF" badge they made up on the spot to allow Thorzain and Nani to play?
Fox United seems to be the old WeMade Fox Warcraft 3 team (Moon, Lyn, Soccer) combined with some foreigners from the GOM-MLG exchange program, hence the Fox "United."
I'll actually be highly interested to see if Fox United lets some mercenary foreigners or teamless Koreans to join.
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Wow I am really glad I just noticed this thread after everything is settled, otherwise that would have been depressing news. I can't wait to see him in the GSTL! Go Thorzain!
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Good call ThorZaIN! Kick ass.
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On June 15 2011 19:45 Thorzain wrote:
To clarify things: I will most likely play GSTL in F.United.
What happened was that I wasn't informed about me playing in the GSTL in the first place until I saw the official GOMTV news. When I saw the news I asked my team about permission and they didn't know about it as well. As long as I wouldn't be representing WMF i was allowed to play.
I sent a mail to GOMTv asking them about that and they said I would be able to represent mouz (shirt etc).
This morning when I woke up I saw this thread with the rather misformulated mousesports-tweet. What they meant was more likely that I'm not confirmed to play in the GSTL yet. However, now when I've cleared things out I will almost certainly still be playing it.
just want to mention you have an awesome icon!!!
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On June 16 2011 02:07 Saishuuheiki wrote:
It's tempted to change F. United to F. United States or F. USA but that seems to have the opposite of the desired effect
O.o wait what?
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That was a 180 degree turn of events I must say. I guess all's well that ends well.
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Happy he chose to participate. ThorZain fighting!!!
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THORZAIN AND NANIWA FOR LAST 5 WEEKS
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And the point of this bump was...?
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I like the bump, I was still thinking that Thorzain wouldn't compete
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EPT
