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LeBroom
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany67 Posts
June 12 2011 12:05 GMT
#221
Tasteless sucks, I can't stand em. All these bad jokes and this senseless bullshit blablabla. 90% of his talking has nothing to do with the game. I hope he gets fired in the future.

User was temp banned for this post.
Demonzii
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands180 Posts
June 12 2011 12:06 GMT
#222
Tastosis is fine. Make a poll and see what happens, but they shouldn't change @ all. I dont think its Tasteless, but you being to annoyed @ how he casts. Its not a shame to have that, you might enjoy other casters more then i do. But tastosis (to me) Is the best casting duo atm
HoCRonin
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark23 Posts
June 12 2011 12:07 GMT
#223
[/QUOTE]I don't understand how this thread managed to get further than this post. Tasteless, if you're ever looking to change something about the way you cast, it should be CASTING MORE GAMES.[/QUOTE]


My thoughts excatly. If you think you can do better and be more entertaning then apply to gomtv. I belive there is a job opening.
http://www.gomtv.net/2011super1/news/65501
StavrosHL
Profile Joined December 2010
Greece128 Posts
June 12 2011 12:12 GMT
#224
i can see haters for tasteless like i can see fans for husky. anyway some ppl do not deserve to watch casts by tasteless and artosis. its a matter of quality and sc2 insight. so simple. OP n others show total ignorance when saying like ''tasteless slightly unexperienced caster''.
oic. at least the portion of them is like 10 to 500.
Ejohrik
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden219 Posts
June 12 2011 12:14 GMT
#225
I have already posted a rant about not enjoying Tastosis casts much, but I feel I should actually specify what bugs me about each specific caster:

Tasteless jokes a little too much. I trust his knowlege of the game, and of the korean scene in general.I would like to hear more of it. He states the obvious a little too much. He could show more passion for the matches. It's often Artosis being excited and Tasteless just saying "Yeah", in a common voice.

Artosis also jokes too much. I sometimes feel his knowlege of the game is a little overrated. I don't like when he criticizes the players' choices instead of explaining them. He states the game is over way to fast. I feel that any caster should always wait for the gg before making assumptions.
holycrapitsTony
Profile Joined October 2010
United States330 Posts
June 12 2011 12:17 GMT
#226
Only a few other people touched on it, but I'm gonna bring it up again. What does you being Korean have anything to do with your knowledge of esports? If esports weren't socially acceptable, then they wouldn't be aired on television and people wouldn't be attending these events. Don't be silly.
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mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
June 12 2011 12:32 GMT
#227
On June 12 2011 15:30 Melange wrote:

Here we go again, why the exclusion? Do we want kids' moms to cut them off from anything SC2 related because a pair of casters talked about sex? Is this the kind of impression we want to be giving to the public?


They actually should be excluded as long the current integrity of the casting remains.

Their mom will ban them from watching or playing SC2. In the future one or all of them will get around to watching it when they are old enough to use their own judgement. They'll shrug when the majority of games don't have a sex joke that could make them uptight and accept the scene for what it is, a less uptight version of competitive sports.


The OP has a point that TAsteless should offer better insight into his thought process when he ends up interrupting Artosis only to point out something amusing (which is a coin flip in the chuckle inducement because of the poor timing) or only to say something really simple like GOOD. He needs to take a breath and offer better commentary then. The rest of his casting is fine.

Besides people should be less concerned about what Tasteless' casting is doing for the image of professionalism with esports than the reliance of ID tags for players.

Our gamer mentality to refer people by their ID instead of their name is far more damaging. It would be preferable if the ID and names were interchangeable in usage but if I had to fall back on one to lend some more professionalism to the scene I would have to be forced to use a person's name.

ID tags regardless of how you came up with them originally are filtered through the bias of what viewers know. A friend of mine has had a noticeable dislike for Marinekingprime primarily because of his ID. Whenever he makes mistakes he'll call him out on it with far more enthusiasm than other players.

Lot's of people held their nose when a guy decided to call himself Alicia and they still do.

Using actual names gives you a connection to the person's possible ethnic origin (which you can have an easier time identifying with), and allows you to speak about them in casual conversation without random jokes interrupting the flow of the conversation.
everytimee
Profile Joined May 2010
United States122 Posts
June 12 2011 12:32 GMT
#228
Watch things you like and don't try to change things you don't like. He shouldn't change for you and he has no responsibility to make e-sports mainstream. Your opinion is fine and so is the fact that you dislike how he casts and if there are enough people that share your opinion he will be forced to change his style or be fired. If he changes to satisfy people like you then people like me will be less satisfied so no matter what somebody is not going to be fully satisfied. Unfortunately it is you in this circumstance but you can realize that other people enjoy his casting alot and everything you see isn't going to be exactly what you want.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
June 12 2011 12:35 GMT
#229
To me the Tastosis combo keeps me tuned in. Even if the game is boring ill still watch it just because they are entertaining.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
June 12 2011 12:40 GMT
#230
On June 12 2011 15:22 hmunkey wrote:
Disagree with everything completely except maybe the sex thing. I can see GSL as being a family show, so talking about sex and using vulgarities is probably not the best idea. Also, while a stronger diction couldn't hurt, I don't really mind Tasteless being Tasteless -- that's what makes their casting duo so good.

This.

I've never noticed tasteless cutting off Artosis, and aside from his sex remark (i noted it too and thought it was too off-topic even for tasteless) everything else about them is perfect. They fill time when there is no action better than any other casting pair, something that is very hard to do because you can say "and they're massing up.... yep" only so much. Who gives a shit about using some of the same words, he's been using more every cast too. I think you're nitpicking on things that bother you particularly. go back and watch more casts, you'll notice tasteless introduces new vocabulary on the nerd world fairly often. I know i've had to google some of his words more than once =P
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LeLeech
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom211 Posts
June 12 2011 12:41 GMT
#231
Its a very good thing tasteless doesent read teamliquid. This thread is moot in that regard. Its more of a way for people to vent for whatever small frustrations they have with Nick. My thoughts.

Don't see this thread surviving the weekend.
LoL stream: ~190k viewers. SC2 stream: ~85k viewers. Really Blizzard?
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
June 12 2011 12:43 GMT
#232
I LOVE tasteless, he is awesome caster and he is good as it is. He does not have very good game and strategy knowledge, but that's why he is with artosis.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 12 2011 12:45 GMT
#233
I can't think of anyone worse than GSL being boring and mainstream. If it gets popular then great, but I wouldn't want that at the expense of changing Tastosis.
DMKraft
Profile Joined December 2010
476 Posts
June 12 2011 12:46 GMT
#234
Well nothing is perfect.

Except Tasteless and Artosis, they are.
DNA61289
Profile Joined August 2010
United States665 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 12:53:23
June 12 2011 12:51 GMT
#235
Never noticed any of the complaints the OP has made. I guess I'm lucky.
Although I want to get on the hate bandwagon aswell. Tasteless why are you acting like yourself?!?!?!!?
But yeah being a Korean gamer is very imba. If you're a non-korean gamer you have to balance your game playing with earning money and your real life. If you're Korean you just sit around playing games all day eating 2 cent ramyun and becoming gosu.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 12:55:07
June 12 2011 12:54 GMT
#236
On June 12 2011 21:07 Tolabakai wrote:
Show nested quote +
I don't understand how this thread managed to get further than this post. Tasteless, if you're ever looking to change something about the way you cast, it should be CASTING MORE GAMES.



My thoughts excatly. If you think you can do better and be more entertaning then apply to gomtv. I belive there is a job opening.
http://www.gomtv.net/2011super1/news/65501


Great argument... Criticism should always be countered with "you do better!".

Everyone can improve in what they do, be it work or hobby. As long as it's constructive and not offensive i really don't see a problem with providing some pointers.
zs3000
Profile Joined March 2010
United States43 Posts
June 12 2011 12:57 GMT
#237
How does this thread stay up on this forum, but others with more legitimate concerns or thoughts get banned so often?
www.justin.tv/zs3000
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
June 12 2011 12:59 GMT
#238
i dont even this thread.

Never noticed Tasteless cutting off Artosis.
They are the perfect combo, like steak and chips or sausage and bacon

DONT EVER CHANGE
Tehkilla
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden75 Posts
June 12 2011 13:07 GMT
#239
I kind of agree with the 1.

Not really so much with 2. and 3. tho
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
June 12 2011 13:10 GMT
#240
Tasteless has been casting since before 90% of the posters here even joined the scene. He's fine the way he is. Always has been.
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