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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
June 12 2011 13:12 GMT
#241
if you want to critisize tasteless, why do you write about him in third person instead of adressing him directly?

Also, tasteless stated multiple times (i think) that he does not read teamliquid anymore, so the odds of him reading or caring about this thread are at about 0,0001%.

And i disagree with everything you said
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Me1234
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany219 Posts
June 12 2011 13:12 GMT
#242
agreeing a bit with 1

but disagree with the other points

I liike tasteless how he is

Please do not change!
Uhm?
Moda
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway60 Posts
June 12 2011 13:18 GMT
#243
If tasteless started to force himself to sound proffesional then I wouldnt watch him anymore, he needs to be himself and to be natural when he casts. Thats why we love tastosis, because they are two strong personalities that we love and know, they shouldnt change a thing.
dat microwave
HaeHei
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom162 Posts
June 12 2011 13:19 GMT
#244
disagree with all above tasteless is fine with artosis they are perfect tbh plus tasteless has more experience at casting than artosis so i dunno what your talking about plus whats wrong with sex? lets be honest that its a human nature thing soo ye.... i personally don't really care they are funny and ya know sex isn't really bad if they swore or anything i would probs be like hmmm... shouldn't do that but everything is fine love gay for tasteless tbh nom nom nom nom nom nom nom
Humans are weak. For every cure found, another disease is uncovered. It's a game of chase.
Zedex
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom310 Posts
June 12 2011 13:19 GMT
#245
Another very important piece of constructive criticism:
Tasteless, stop being so sexy. It makes everyone else look bad.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 13:25:36
June 12 2011 13:23 GMT
#246
Jesus fucking Christ, another random internet hero giving "constructive criticism" with a sad attempt at sounding like he knows fuck all.

Yeah, agree OP. For the growth of e-sports let's remove everything that makes it worth anything. Tasteless? Pah, why would we want to have a commentator who has been loved for years? He's not professional enough?

I swear, if e-sports ever becomes what this stupidly vocal minority wants it to be I'll start muting streams, watching with music on and sure as fuck won't be giving any money to it. If you want your grand parents to cast games just ask them, I sure as hell don't want them.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 12 2011 13:25 GMT
#247
Starcraft 2, a family program where two people mercilessly slaughter each others forces with warriors and war machines.

What, did I fall asleep and wake up in The Running Man world?

Seriously, I don't care what Tasteless says and I don't expect anything extremely classy from someone named.. .. .. Tasteless.
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garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
June 12 2011 13:29 GMT
#248
On June 12 2011 22:23 vyyye wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ, another random internet hero giving "constructive criticism" with a sad attempt at sounding like he knows fuck all.

Yeah, agree OP. For the growth of e-sports let's remove everything that makes it worth anything. Tasteless? Pah, why would we want to have a commentator who has been loved for years? He's not professional enough?

I swear, if e-sports ever becomes what this stupidly vocal minority wants it to be I'll start muting streams, watching with music on and sure as fuck won't be giving any money to it. If you want your grand parents to cast games just ask them, I sure as hell don't want them.

Amen. Thanks for voicing my displeasure.

I thought I'd seen it all with the caster threads. But Tasteless? Really?
#TeamBuLba
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1092 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 13:30:09
June 12 2011 13:29 GMT
#249
My only criticism could be that they(taistosis) are too Korean focused (hardly there fault) and that he is too damn sexy.
tablet
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 13:31:19
June 12 2011 13:30 GMT
#250
On June 12 2011 15:08 pc_room_freak wrote:
inexperienced as a caster?


Are we talking about the Tasteless who was one of the first big foreign casters in BW and SC2 and has done more casting in high level tournaments than pretty much everyone else combined? Of course not counting Artosis but anyways.
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karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
June 12 2011 13:31 GMT
#251
On June 12 2011 22:23 vyyye wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ, another random internet hero giving "constructive criticism" with a sad attempt at sounding like he knows fuck all.

Yeah, agree OP. For the growth of e-sports let's remove everything that makes it worth anything. Tasteless? Pah, why would we want to have a commentator who has been loved for years? He's not professional enough?

I swear, if e-sports ever becomes what this stupidly vocal minority wants it to be I'll start muting streams, watching with music on and sure as fuck won't be giving any money to it. If you want your grand parents to cast games just ask them, I sure as hell don't want them.


Chill out. The criticism isn't that bad and he even says he has no problem with the relaxed comical part of the casts. This thread is bad but some of the defensive fanboys are even worse.
Papulatus
Profile Joined July 2010
United States669 Posts
June 12 2011 13:33 GMT
#252
I'm really confused with this OP. I have noticed tasteless do none of these in a bad way. Everything seems to fix together perfectly with his casting. His laid back nature is what makes him significantly better than Day9's really excited super serious casting.

I can't stand Day9's casting >.>
4 Corners in a day.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 13:38:42
June 12 2011 13:35 GMT
#253
On June 12 2011 22:31 karpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 22:23 vyyye wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ, another random internet hero giving "constructive criticism" with a sad attempt at sounding like he knows fuck all.

Yeah, agree OP. For the growth of e-sports let's remove everything that makes it worth anything. Tasteless? Pah, why would we want to have a commentator who has been loved for years? He's not professional enough?

I swear, if e-sports ever becomes what this stupidly vocal minority wants it to be I'll start muting streams, watching with music on and sure as fuck won't be giving any money to it. If you want your grand parents to cast games just ask them, I sure as hell don't want them.


Chill out. The criticism isn't that bad and he even says he has no problem with the relaxed comical part of the casts. This thread is bad but some of the defensive fanboys are even worse.

Sorry, bud. You got it all wrong. I'm not defending Tasteless, he hardly needs it. Just voicing my opinion on the absolutely ridiculous trend of "X is hurting e-sports we need to appeal more to soccer moms".

Edited out needless frustration. You're still being silly.
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 13:44:43
June 12 2011 13:39 GMT
#254
On June 12 2011 15:08 pc_room_freak wrote:
I'm a big fan of tastosis, but does anybody else find tasteless slightly inexperienced as a caster?

I don't know about him being commentator in bw, but from the gsl's i noticed he's

1.) overly repetitive in diction- for example
"he's so SOLID", "he's playing so GOOD", "it's going to be so COOL". I don't understand why he can't use... more descriptive words whenever he's trying to add something to the cast. Not only that, he just constantly overuses these words, making him sound like a broken record sometimes. It's weird since he seems quite articulate in casual settings.


You cast about 5 hours of content a week and sound fresh and different all the time. kthx.

2.) cuts Artosis off too frequently, at the wrong times
-only to add "he's so GOOD"
Artosis is the commentator, let him get technical with his part, and cut him off when u have to (ie when something happens on the map).


You cast 5 hours a week and not cut off your partner 100% of the time. kthx.

3.) needs to be more PROFESSIONAL
-I'm not even talking about the eating and drinking during matches. i don't think this "relaxed mindset" during casting is so detrimental to the event,,, but..

- Please don't mention "sex" on-air again, or at least not say the word so downright. Esports is still largely unaccepted in society, even in korea (i'm a korean, so i know). If you don't act to the bare minimum on one of esports premier events, how do you expect people to start taking this sport seriously?


You do realize that he curbs 95% of who he is, have you seen his appearance on SotG? Jesus man.


I know i might come off sounding too critical, but i realized Tastosis is and will most likely be the "voice" of starcraft 2 (for the foreigners, at least). Both casters are very likable, and i would like nothing more than the very best, since i'm one of those people who watches GSL's due to entertainment value i get from listening to you guys.

Thanks


It's not that you come off sounding too critical, it's that you come from a perspective that just has no idea.

This post reminds me of TotalBiscuit's ridiculous rant about idra's casting, except TotalBiscuit is a full-time caster and radio personality as his career, and at least has that as the backing for what he is saying (even if the motivation behind his stupid post on reddit was because he was just very salty towards EG as a whole still).

Also this doesn't deserve it's own topic, there is a place where you can give feedback about this sort of thing on gomtv.net. thx
srsly
cybiz
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland194 Posts
June 12 2011 13:51 GMT
#255
On June 12 2011 22:29 baldgye wrote:
My only criticism could be that they(taistosis) are too Korean focused (hardly there fault) and that he is too damn sexy.

Uhhh... You realize they're casting (mostly) Korean games, right? Right?
Lathund
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden95 Posts
June 12 2011 13:59 GMT
#256
On June 12 2011 20:45 ChickenLips wrote:
If there was one thing I could change about Tasteless it would be his repeating of Artosis. He does it very frequently, just straight up repeating what Artosis says ASAP

Artosis: "This doesn't look good ... "
Tasteless: "This doesn't look good ... "

Artosis: "Zerg's in trouble ... "
Tasteless: "Zerg's in trouble! "


This is really the only negative thing I have to say about his casting. Some other very, very minor stuff as well, but noone's perfect. There are far more things I love about his casting, especially together with Artosis, so it's not like I really care.

KUTGW Tasteless, don't listen to the haters!

btw the OP should check out TLO and 2GD casting the Swedish WCG qualifiers if he thinks Tasteless is inappropriate. Most hilarious cast ever, and very un-PC. Put a funny German and a funny Englishman who lacks a filter of any kind together in an impromptu cast, and inappropriate hilarity will ensue.
stOrpse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States175 Posts
June 12 2011 14:05 GMT
#257
What the fuck are you talking about? All those little things that Tasteless and Artosis do are what make them the most interesting casting archon to watch.
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
June 12 2011 14:08 GMT
#258
On June 12 2011 22:23 vyyye wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ, another random internet hero giving "constructive criticism" with a sad attempt at sounding like he knows fuck all.

Yeah, agree OP. For the growth of e-sports let's remove everything that makes it worth anything. Tasteless? Pah, why would we want to have a commentator who has been loved for years? He's not professional enough?

I swear, if e-sports ever becomes what this stupidly vocal minority wants it to be I'll start muting streams, watching with music on and sure as fuck won't be giving any money to it. If you want your grand parents to cast games just ask them, I sure as hell don't want them.


I'll jump on this bandwagon and agree with everyone that disagrees with this thread. Watch thebest vs markineking and come back to this thread about lack of professionalism. They singlehandely saved one of the worst games in the history of sc2 and made it into recommendable games for the casting only.

How you can complain about someone being stagnant with their dictionary is just funny. Do you have any idea how hard it is to change constantly the words they use with so many hours they have to commentante? Sure he keeps saying this and that is "such a technical xxx", but that's just the way he is. He can't really change himself to satisfy people at every turn.

Watch moletrap and doa commentating code a, and then come back to this thread to complain about people cutting off each other aswell. Sure Tasteless do it from time to time, but at least they can adapt to it and even make "conch" jokes about it. In other duo casts it just ends up akward.
I speak fluent sarcasm.
davsp
Profile Joined July 2009
Philippines62 Posts
June 12 2011 14:11 GMT
#259
The only thing I hate about them is that they oftentimes interrupt each other in the middle of their sentences... otherwise they're really the most entertaining casting duo to watch.

Though I am really wishing the Plott brothers would do one together ;/
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
June 12 2011 14:12 GMT
#260
I think Tastosis have the best chemistry of a any caster duo out there, so I have a hard time taking your feedback seriously.
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