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Lingy
Profile Joined December 2010
England201 Posts
June 12 2011 10:35 GMT
#181
You should commentate then
there is a reason why people like him so much hedidn't just get there through luck
Hydraliskuuuuhh
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
June 12 2011 10:36 GMT
#182
The only thing tasteless does wrong really is when he refers to his producers as just having told him something.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
June 12 2011 10:40 GMT
#183
Speak ill of any part of the casting Archon and you will be crucified.
Joking aside, Tasteless does know when he interrupts Artosis. He actually apologizes each time this happens. And when it happens, it's usually because something important just occurred in the game.
Gnax
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden490 Posts
June 12 2011 10:44 GMT
#184
On June 12 2011 19:36 ComusLoM wrote:
The only thing tasteless does wrong really is when he refers to his producers as just having told him something.


That's not wrong. Conan O'Brien does that too.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
June 12 2011 10:47 GMT
#185
Sex sells! Literary, so let Tasteless speak his mind.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
Theo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States151 Posts
June 12 2011 10:47 GMT
#186
Can I have everything I want? Um Excuse me Tasteless, Can I have everything I want??
Frog? No. HIPPO
Okiesmokie
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada379 Posts
June 12 2011 10:48 GMT
#187
On June 12 2011 19:36 ComusLoM wrote:
The only thing tasteless does wrong really is when he refers to his producers as just having told him something.

Clearly you've never seen tasteless try and act like he came up with things that the producers are telling him. He should stick to giving them credit
sc2guy
Profile Joined November 2010
291 Posts
June 12 2011 10:52 GMT
#188
The only thing I want him to improve, is stop calling player A as player B, race A as race B, unit A as unit B...

I wonder if anybody else notice he makes these kind of mistakes very frequently
✿◕‿◕✿ Taeng
hookyelyak
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Egypt184 Posts
June 12 2011 10:56 GMT
#189
tastless is so good no need to improve
life.parting.mkp.hero.rain.
Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
June 12 2011 10:58 GMT
#190
Tastosis are doing EVRYTHING right. Don't you dare bring up your criticism for either of them.
GurZtly
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria148 Posts
June 12 2011 11:01 GMT
#191
Tasteless is a great caster and the perfect addition to artosis. I mean yeah, there are several fails within one show where he talks about strategy things and gets some parts wrong, but thats totally okay, cause one second later he tells an awesome joke and i cant stop laughing
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
June 12 2011 11:01 GMT
#192
i think you're retarded, but maybe your sex point makes some sense
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
MuATaran
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada231 Posts
June 12 2011 11:04 GMT
#193
There is a reason we all love Tastless so much, he is funny, he doesnt try to act like he is a main stream type caster (baseball, hockey etc.) and we all love Artosis as well but when Tastless has something to say he is gonna say it. As for the sex being mentioned once I dont really think that is a big deal, if he started talking about it every other game then I would say that he talks about it a little much but as is I think it is fine.
"Our Banshees will blot out the Sun! ... Then we shall Stim in the Shade." - Doa
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
June 12 2011 11:07 GMT
#194
They have their flaws, but for me thats a part of who they are. I do not want 2 robots up there.
Dead girls don't say no.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
June 12 2011 11:10 GMT
#195
Tasteless is doing fine, the only thing that could improve perhaps would be to have some more quality insight from time to time like artosis does. The little tricks they sometimes tell like how to split probes against hellions or whatever.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 12 2011 11:10 GMT
#196
how is the word 'sex' offensive? oh americans..
Gackt_
Profile Joined March 2010
335 Posts
June 12 2011 11:10 GMT
#197
it takes time to get used to tasteless but when u do u will realize that his commentating is pretty solid and he brings in alot of fun to the whole show...tasteless is more of a show/comedian than a commentator but he is capable of doing his job really well thnx to artosis they synch rly good together, they are pretty much the major reason why i watch gsl at least..
XenoX101
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 11:14:08
June 12 2011 11:13 GMT
#198
This is ridiculous, the posters in this thread I mean. OP has mentioned some entirely valid points in a completely friendly tone and how do people respond? By flaming him as a person and ignoring or completely disregarding his points, or making straw man arguments.

Just for reference, here are some paraphrased stupid things people have said in this thread

Irrelevant points:

I prefer tasteless over any other caster

The OP does too, but this isn't what is being discussed

If people didn't like his casting he wouldn't be getting jobs

Again, this isn't about whether people like his casting, the OP has explictily said he is a big fan of Tastosis. It is about whether these particular words and behaviours of tasteless could be improved upon and whether they are bad for esports, he can be liked as a caster while still having these faults and having them affect esports.

This is just bitching

Do you search for things that annoy you just to post threads about them?

Sigh..


Strawman arguments

They don't need to be perfect

Nobody said anything about perfect, and I highly doubt it takes someone perfect to improve on the points made by the OP.

This represents a small niche of people trying to force casters to perform how they see fit

No, if this were the case then he wouldn't be asking for other people's opinions, he is making suggestions not demands.

He is who he is

But is it affecting esports? You haven't responded to the main contention of this thread.


Please think a bit more before you post.

And personally, I think this is a bit of a grey area in that Tasteless is promoting esports with his character but admittedly detracting a little with it as well in some of the things he says. I do think he should make an effort to improve as a caster, but I think all casters should keep trying to improve themselves. These are some good points that I feel would help Tasteless' casting career and esports as a whole, particularly his slightly lacking vocabulary when describing players and the sex remarks.


uzas
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia52 Posts
June 12 2011 11:14 GMT
#199
I completely disagree. Hes just fine. What do you want a robot casting? Get real.
MaGariShun
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria305 Posts
June 12 2011 11:17 GMT
#200
I hope he doesn't change one bit. The "unprofessionalism" is what makes him so good. Look at NASL: I personally dont like the casts at all, they're generic, boring and way to formal. Incontrol is such a genious entertainer, but he's held back by being "professional" (with some moments of glory in between). Tastosis actually say that a player is bad, that he will get stomped and that he will lose, if it looks bad (NASL casts are always like "he's such a great great player" regardless of who plays).
The random banter when nothing happens is far better than some "minerals being mined" cast that just states the obvious over and over again.
Them calling games over when they aren't just builds up excitement.

I feel that all this "professionalism" is way over board. If SC2 is to be established as an ESPORT, it will be established in our current generation. My dad and his generation will never be interested in SC2, but that is not a bad thing. I just feel that changing the SC2 scene into something "adult" when the majority of the crowd is exactly not that is a bad thing (don't have the illusion the older crowd will be converted). I wouldn't watch a SC2 TV channel when all they do is bringing boring NASL like casts
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