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Ksyper
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Bulgaria665 Posts
June 09 2011 00:55 GMT
#81
In BW workers mined 8 minerals per trip, in SC2 they mine 5 minerals per trip, how did blizzard not anticipate that that would bloat the worker numbers, wtb 250 supply!
Nuttyguy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom1526 Posts
June 09 2011 00:57 GMT
#82
On June 09 2011 09:44 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 07:51 Horse...falcon wrote:
New Terrain Mechanics

BIGGER ROCKS!

MORE HITPOINTS AND ARMOR FOR ROCKS!

ROCKS REGENERATE at 5.0HP/s!

ROCKS EXPAND LIKE CREEP!



GOLD ROCKS!

XEL NAGA ROCKS!


MUST SACRIFICE CC BEFORE CLOSE MINING

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lol MMA
countwaltz
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 01:00:49
June 09 2011 00:59 GMT
#83
misread - sorry
Whether you are reckless or brave choose the style that suits you best.
MERLIN.
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada546 Posts
June 09 2011 01:02 GMT
#84
Root member today in Teamliquid told me they are thinking of making bunkers be able to lift off with marines in them... Awesome. Like a orbital bunker, imagine a battle with flying attack buildings. ; )
"A bullet to the head will solve your problems."
Whynaut
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada367 Posts
June 09 2011 01:03 GMT
#85
On June 09 2011 09:40 MuteZephyr wrote:

I still remember that BNet poll on whether or not people like rocks and where. The survey result was a resounding "FFFFUUUUU ROCKS" and Blizz chose to spite everybody and release their new set of maps with even more rocks.

EDIT: LOL, no technology for cross-region... Everybody knows that's a huge pile of crap. WC3 and BW were not beamed in from the future. Blizz should just come out and say they want the extra money, they're not fooling anybody.


Cross region play via centralized B.net servers != Cross region play via distributed p2p connection.

BW technology is better in terms of latency, but is nearly impossible to prevent piracy. This is especially relevant since Blizzard tied the SC2 CD to a B.net account, rather than limiting the number of installs. If they were to implement cross server play via p2p tech, parallel ladders (not requiring massive server farms) would quickly spawn (see BW), which would bypass the B.net infrastructure (and hence the 1 account per CD verification). Enforcement is probably something Blizzard can't deal with (see all piracy, anywhere). This would essentially mean that Blizzard would have given away SC2 for free. Surely you don't hold them to that standard?


FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 09 2011 01:06 GMT
#86
On June 09 2011 07:51 Horse...falcon wrote:
New Terrain Mechanics

BIGGER ROCKS!

MORE HITPOINTS AND ARMOR FOR ROCKS!

ROCKS REGENERATE at 5.0HP/s!

ROCKS EXPAND LIKE CREEP!



Spat my water out at the thought of bigger rocks x__x
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
June 09 2011 01:07 GMT
#87
On June 09 2011 09:52 Elefanto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 09:40 MuteZephyr wrote:
On June 09 2011 07:51 Horse...falcon wrote:
New Terrain Mechanics

BIGGER ROCKS!

MORE HITPOINTS AND ARMOR FOR ROCKS!

ROCKS REGENERATE at 5.0HP/s!

ROCKS EXPAND LIKE CREEP!


This genuinely made me lol

...though knowing Blizzard's Browder's (EDIT) love of rocks I wouldn't be surprised -_-

I still remember that BNet poll on whether or not people like rocks and where. The survey result was a resounding "FFFFUUUUU ROCKS" and Blizz chose to spite everybody and release their new set of maps with even more rocks.

EDIT: LOL, no technology for cross-region... Everybody knows that's a huge pile of crap. WC3 and BW were not beamed in from the future. Blizz should just come out and say they want the extra money, they're not fooling anybody.


Rocks are David Kims fetish.
I don't know why browder always gets the whole shitstorm, because everytime i hear / read something from him it's very reasonable and open minded.
I think it's a bit unfair that he always gets called out D:


He is the one who does more interviews, the community of course, instead of being happy that he is open with us, direct the collect nerd rage against him. Well, I guess that comes from being the guy who does interviews.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
June 09 2011 01:09 GMT
#88
Pretty pleased with all of his answers. NOthing stood out as unreasonable or nonsensical.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
June 09 2011 01:10 GMT
#89
On June 09 2011 09:52 Elefanto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 09:40 MuteZephyr wrote:
On June 09 2011 07:51 Horse...falcon wrote:
New Terrain Mechanics

BIGGER ROCKS!

MORE HITPOINTS AND ARMOR FOR ROCKS!

ROCKS REGENERATE at 5.0HP/s!

ROCKS EXPAND LIKE CREEP!


This genuinely made me lol

...though knowing Blizzard's Browder's (EDIT) love of rocks I wouldn't be surprised -_-

I still remember that BNet poll on whether or not people like rocks and where. The survey result was a resounding "FFFFUUUUU ROCKS" and Blizz chose to spite everybody and release their new set of maps with even more rocks.

EDIT: LOL, no technology for cross-region... Everybody knows that's a huge pile of crap. WC3 and BW were not beamed in from the future. Blizz should just come out and say they want the extra money, they're not fooling anybody.


Rocks are David Kims fetish.
I don't know why browder always gets the whole shitstorm, because everytime i hear / read something from him it's very reasonable and open minded.
I think it's a bit unfair that he always gets called out D:

He's the face of SC2 development, he's going to get shit even if his changes make the game perfect, a la "why didn't you do this earlier! grumblegrumble" People need to remember that Blizzard has a vast array of tools at their disposal to deal with game balance, more than any spectator, commentator or progamer. Blizzard also cares about their games and want to make them the best out there. Even so haters gonna hate, and anything Blizzard does will upset someone. They have their visions for SC2 and won't mess with it on a whim because of one person's input. But like Browder constantly kept saying: they accept feedback from everyone, just not everyone's feedback is important to developing the game.
Sup.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
June 09 2011 01:10 GMT
#90
I wonder if they'll give high ground a bonus to damage like in other games, but then revert back to BW vision conditions for balance
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
June 09 2011 01:10 GMT
#91
On June 09 2011 08:53 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 08:24 RuneZerg wrote:
"thats the first time ive heard that rushes are easy and safe" - Dustin Browder, never been 2 raxed :D


Didn't he call 2 Rax a trash strategy?


He said something about 2 rax and bringing all your scvs was trash and would be fixed if needed. That was back in January I believe.
MERLIN.
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada546 Posts
June 09 2011 01:13 GMT
#92
high ground didnt have bonus dmg in BW if I recall right, it was that ppl on low ground could shoot up with 33% miss rate, so hill was much safer to hold. Also the vision ideas a bad one, why have fog of war... it makes no difference.
"A bullet to the head will solve your problems."
Khanz
Profile Joined April 2010
France214 Posts
June 09 2011 01:14 GMT
#93
On June 09 2011 07:51 Horse...falcon wrote:
New Terrain Mechanics

BIGGER ROCKS!

MORE HITPOINTS AND ARMOR FOR ROCKS!

ROCKS REGENERATE at 5.0HP/s!

ROCKS EXPAND LIKE CREEP!



sir, you made my day ! I find the interviewers hard to follow sometimes, GOGO SEN !
Don't worry, zombies eat brains. You're safe
Ksyper
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Bulgaria665 Posts
June 09 2011 01:32 GMT
#94
Why are ppl talking about Idra in this thread, what did he say about this talk Sen had with blizzard?
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
June 09 2011 01:38 GMT
#95
On June 09 2011 09:55 Ksyper wrote:
In BW workers mined 8 minerals per trip, in SC2 they mine 5 minerals per trip, how did blizzard not anticipate that that would bloat the worker numbers, wtb 250 supply!


The income is the same, SC2 workers just mine faster. This is bad though because it flattens the income curve, so taking extra bases doesn't increase income until saturation. It's not really improved worker AI as such, its more to do with the fact that workers will return as soon as a worker arrives. Try lengthening the mining time and workers will start to glitch out.

The longer workers stay at a patch the more powerful expanding becomes, because now the amount of patches you have also becomes a resource.

There is a problem with double gas though. For a race like Zerg which is gas bound rather than mineral bound, it wastes a lot of supply mining gas.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
June 09 2011 01:41 GMT
#96
why the hell are the focusing so much on blizzard dota? do they really think it's gonna be big? there's like a dozen dota-like games already in the market, not to mention dota mods to existing games.

there's only a slim chance that they find the same amount of success as the first dota, dunno why they are focusing so much on just a mod
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
June 09 2011 01:50 GMT
#97
^ from the impression i got, they are not focusing that hard on it, when its ready its ready.... you act as if its the same ppl balancing sc2 are balancing blizzard dota . Also you opinion is only your opinion and does not represent everybody. I for one cant wait for blizzard dota.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
June 09 2011 01:53 GMT
#98
As far as the last question, goes Mid game upgrade (per refinery) that allows that Refinery to harvest vespene without units.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Coutcha
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada519 Posts
June 09 2011 01:56 GMT
#99
Need subtitle lol
This is what the world is for Making ELECTRICITY :D
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 02:05:21
June 09 2011 02:03 GMT
#100
oops - too many windows open
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
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