[June] SC2 General Discussion - Page 2

On June 06 2011 11:00 Vansetsu wrote:
So... I have kind of felt this way since the roach got +1 (4) range buff. Zerg played correctly at the highest mechanical and strategical level is very strong. In particular against a Protoss. Discluding early to maybe mid game, I feel like even the best Zerg can generate too much income and and can either re-macro strong unit compositions too fast or stockpile and do other things.

I tried to think of a solution for this for a long time, and finally I think I may have come up with a feasible concept - Charging resources for every creep tumor put on the map (initial tumor possibley being free), and maybe charging a slow mineral rate, ala an scv repairing something, for overlords dropping creep. I have no idea what the amounts charged would be, maybe something like 25m?

Creep is free vision, free expansion denial, and free speed advantage. I think forcing the Zerg to passively spend a little of the massive amount of excess minerals they can macro up in SC2 and making creep something of "resource based value" to attack would maybe make the PvZ match up a tad bit more balanced (before the roach range increase, stalkers could harass roaches without speed and kite with good micro ect.) It also makes a stockpiled zerg a little more accountable for how he chooses to engage with units, even if they are in a "throw away army". However, I'm not sure how this would adversely effect TvZ, as creep is often quickly and easily destroyed... but it's something I have been thinking about a lot.

I'd love to hear some intelligent, non bias feedback on the idea. (if that's possible )

On June 06 2011 13:23 RM_12 wrote:
Why aren't top Protoss players using Phenix's PvT?

I recently played PvT when i was behind after his fast expo but i was able to keep colosus alive forever because of phenix in my unit mix, and he couldn't win any engagement, eventually loosing while 1 base up over me ^^. You usually go zealot-sentry-stalker-colosus and tech to templar but if you add 1 stargate and keep making phenix you suddenly win every engagement.

You can kill vikings without suiciding your stalkers to marauder ball, and kill medivacs. Also phenixes attacking vikings allow you to move forward with colossus to deal demage and not die in few viking shots. It's much easier to micro, and terran can't go marines (you have ever growing colossus count) and if they don't transition out of marauder ball you have the ability to add VR's and roflstomp Terran even harder.

Srsly they are not expensive and you don't even need to micro them, just a move and control ground battle with FF while your Phenixes just kill anything above the ground.

So i wonder, what is the biggest weakness of incorporating phenixes into standard chargelot-sentry-stalker-colosus that pro's don't use it?

On June 06 2011 13:23 RM_12 wrote:
Why aren't top Protoss players using Phenix's PvT?

I recently played PvT when i was behind after his fast expo but i was able to keep colosus alive forever because of phenix in my unit mix, and he couldn't win any engagement, eventually loosing while 1 base up over me ^^. You usually go zealot-sentry-stalker-colosus and tech to templar but if you add 1 stargate and keep making phenix you suddenly win every engagement.

You can kill vikings without suiciding your stalkers to marauder ball, and kill medivacs. Also phenixes attacking vikings allow you to move forward with colossus to deal demage and not die in few viking shots. It's much easier to micro, and terran can't go marines (you have ever growing colossus count) and if they don't transition out of marauder ball you have the ability to add VR's and roflstomp Terran even harder.

Srsly they are not expensive and you don't even need to micro them, just a move and control ground battle with FF while your Phenixes just kill anything above the ground.

So i wonder, what is the biggest weakness of incorporating phenixes into standard chargelot-sentry-stalker-colosus that pro's don't use it?

On June 06 2011 04:09 euroboy wrote:
This popped up in my mind yesterday.

Do anyone have an explanation for the login procedure? You know when you type your password and login, you are face with a "Enter" screen with your profile in it. Why is this? Has Blizzard something planned for this screen? How does it look on the SEA server where you can play on both SEA and NA? Or is it just a remnant from the Guest login screen?

On June 06 2011 19:52 grs wrote:
It shows your last login time, so it might be for you to check if someone else might have logged into your account in between your last session and your current one.

On June 06 2011 21:51 Rambowjo wrote:
Hi, I want to participate in the tournament Husky and Day9 are arranging, but I need a North American copy of SC2. Could a kind American look into where I can get it the cheapest? My idea was to order it to a friend in America and then he could give me the serial key.

My apologies if there's a megapost about this somewhere, I couldn't seem to find it.

On June 06 2011 23:01 FinnGamer wrote:

You can get a copy via amazon for 35$ but the shipping will be exspensive http://www.teamliquid.net/store
It's probably best to buy it on a gamekey site

On June 07 2011 02:18 GoodLuckHF wrote:
I just had the idea of tech labs and reactors being able to be built on either side of the barracks/factory/starport. This would eliminate the possional imbalance that, for example, made jinro lose his reactor in the GSL. What do you guys think?

On June 07 2011 04:22 CosmicSpiral wrote:


How is a bad decision by Jinro equivalent to "positional imbalance"? He took a risk by leaving his add-on on the outside of his wall and paid for it.

On June 07 2011 04:45 BlasiuS wrote:


because in a different spawn location, the add-on would be on the inside of the wall, not the outside.