EPTMagnifying the mini map on a 2nd monitor - fair? - Page 6
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
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Roxy
Canada753 Posts
thx  I have my second monitor to the right of my playing screen.. I'm repositioning my new "megamap" next to my mineral/gas/supply counter edit: is there a way to make my mineral/gas/supply count get reposted above the regular minimap as well? displayed as always on top or something? but same size? re-edit: im idiot... just read post on last page | ||
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2904 Posts
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:08 Odien wrote: I don't think it's illegal unless it's some sort of .dll injection.. but then again, technically speaking.. it is a '3rd party program' which is against Blizzard's TOS. Blizzard has and will ban you even if you use macros on a keyboard endorsed by Blizzard themselves. | ||
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Fyrewolf
United States1533 Posts
Starcraft 2 does not have this option in the game currently. Therefore, it should obviously be unethical, unfair, and bannable. Period. | ||
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Roxy
Canada753 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:32 Fyrewolf wrote: You're using 3rd party software. Starcraft 2 does not have this option in the game currently. Therefore, it should obviously be unethical, unfair, and bannable. Period. Isn't it third party software to say.. overlay the score in a tournament series? Fits the same criterea everyone has listed as far as modification goes So does that giant thread about changing the colors prominance of units in the game. Its not like this is giving any new informaiton, it is just displaying it differently and this is an option that SHOULD be in the game anyways | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32049 Posts
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reapsen
Germany559 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:06 Bambipwnsu wrote: Hey, if you don't care about this, then you wont mind if I place your mineral count to the left center.....and your gas to the right center on a 24 inch screen. Hey don't worry its only an eye motion? I have already discussed this in my previous post why centralized information is an advantage. I watch my mineral count..I might miss that drop coming. You look at your mineral count...oh hey you saw my drop coming. With a 2nd monitor only displaying the minimap, you wouldn't even need to move your eyes to catch a drop. It is directly in the peripheral vision as a HUGE red blob. Secondly, with this magnifying tool it has just been shown that you can have it directly in your main screen, therefore you can rearrange and magnify as you wish. Do you want everyone to be doing this at tournaments? multiple magnifying tools everywhere on the screen to rearrange the whole UI...are you kidding me? I don't get what you define as "peripheral vision". The minimap and mineral values, which are on my main screen are not in my peripheral vision, but a zoomed minimap on a second screen is? Okay?! Its like saying picking the color brown would be unfair, because its harder to see on the minimap (given that you don't have the color override enabled). Basically it all comes down to your ability to multitask between different sources of information. I can only come back to the example with the two persons sitting right next to me, where one constantly looks at the minimap and the other at the minerals. One might argue that i´ll never miss a drop this way. But is it really advantageous to have two guys constantly talk to you? I'd say no. If my multitasking is bad or my mechanics are bad, some drops still might do terrible damage and i lose games. Same thing with that zoomed minimap thingy. | ||
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Griffith`
714 Posts
On May 27 2011 22:28 Ichabod wrote: Keybinds for SC2 are saved on Bnet. Are you sure LANs force you to use stock keybinds otherwise? You can't rebind modifier keys in the game. | ||
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djcube
United States985 Posts
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JustinHit
United States196 Posts
Not everyone is blessed with great eye sight and if you have terrible eye sight, go right ahead. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On May 27 2011 22:16 Griffith` wrote: I rebind my capslock to control (in both linux and windows) for all apps because it is 100x more ergonmic and lowers the risk of carpal tunnel. Does your argument also make this illegal? You can still rebind your capslock to control ingame, so it is still ok to do it. | ||
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rawbertson
Canada95 Posts
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Leeto
United States1320 Posts
That's actually a really cool use of the second monitor. It never would have crossed my mind to do something like that. It doesn't really make a big difference (you should be minimap-aware anyways), but if it helps him, then great. It's the same argument as having a timer go off every 40 seconds to inject larva and stuff. If you go to a lan, don't do it. If you're sitting at home, do what you want. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10325 Posts
Not that it's necessarily even a benefit though. | ||
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Fyrewolf
United States1533 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:44 Roxy wrote: Isn't it third party software to say.. overlay the score in a tournament series? Fits the same criterea everyone has listed as far as modification goes So does that giant thread about changing the colors prominance of units in the game. Its not like this is giving any new informaiton, it is just displaying it differently and this is an option that SHOULD be in the game anyways The score overlay isn't for the players playing in the game. It's the viewers that see that, and they aren't the ones playing. Viewers also get to see through fog of war. Saying a feature should be in the game is meaningless. It simply isn't in the game. Unless it gets put into the game in the future, you'll just have to deal with what you have. | ||
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TedJustice
Canada1324 Posts
It's fine for casual ladder play imo. | ||
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fraktoasters
United States617 Posts
Should we users from adjusting brightness on their monitors? Having two monitors period? Putting a piece of paper on their screen? Playing music in the background? The only thing this changes is how the game is displaying on his monitors, which is insane to think is wrong. | ||
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
1. It's not banable. There isn't even a way to fucking detect this. 2. It wouldn't be allowed at a LAN 3. Do it if you want, don't expect it to matter. | ||
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Bambipwnsu
Canada698 Posts
On May 28 2011 04:03 reapsen wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 28 2011 03:06 Bambipwnsu wrote: Hey, if you don't care about this, then you wont mind if I place your mineral count to the left center.....and your gas to the right center on a 24 inch screen. Hey don't worry its only an eye motion? I have already discussed this in my previous post why centralized information is an advantage. I watch my mineral count..I might miss that drop coming. You look at your mineral count...oh hey you saw my drop coming. With a 2nd monitor only displaying the minimap, you wouldn't even need to move your eyes to catch a drop. It is directly in the peripheral vision as a HUGE red blob. Secondly, with this magnifying tool it has just been shown that you can have it directly in your main screen, therefore you can rearrange and magnify as you wish. Do you want everyone to be doing this at tournaments? multiple magnifying tools everywhere on the screen to rearrange the whole UI...are you kidding me? I don't get what you define as "peripheral vision". The minimap and mineral values, which are on my main screen are not in my peripheral vision, but a zoomed minimap on a second screen is? Okay?! Its like saying picking the color brown would be unfair, because its harder to see on the minimap (given that you don't have the color override enabled). Basically it all comes down to your ability to multitask between different sources of information. I can only come back to the example with the two persons sitting right next to me, where one constantly looks at the minimap and the other at the minerals. One might argue that i´ll never miss a drop this way. But is it really advantageous to have two guys constantly talk to you? I'd say no. If my multitasking is bad or my mechanics are bad, some drops still might do terrible damage and i lose games. Same thing with that zoomed minimap thingy. There is a difference between having a fly in your peripheral vision and having a huge red balloon. Which are you likely to react to? Do you think its fair if you were playing a shooter game and i just made your character 10x more large. Easy to spot much? You agree with me in saying that hey, you might not miss a drop this way. Then, you go on to say oh its not an advantage by comparing it to something completely different. First off how can you even compare these two things. Im comparing measurable visuals and you talk about having people give you audio feedback? Can u imagine someone reading out to you "two thousand, three hundred and twenty five minerals and five thousand one hundred seventy six gas", even if you repeated this without wasting a single breath would it be as efficient as reading numbers. So of course its not advantageous to have someone constantly talk to you. And, noone complains about map colors because everyone can change their minimap colors. It is hardcoded into the game. | ||
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