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Is it fair to use a second monitor set up so that it magnifies the minimap portion of your main monitor running sc? Is the benefit from doing this negligible? Am I going to be / should I be banned? lol, I hope not.
Had been thinking about this concept the other day and yesterday I found a free program that let me pull it off pretty easily - desktop zoom 3.5. I used windowed mode to create the window around the minimap and then went through the options of desktop zoom to make it stop auto-minimizing (beware, the program resets each time you run it - save the config)
Screenshots below from a 4v4 this morning (I have 9,000 minerals because the game was over for a couple of minutes, lol)
small
http://postimage.org/image/efywzslg/
big shot
http://postimage.org/image/eh2lw4g4//
program from cnet:
http://download.cnet.com/DesktopZoom/3000-2072_4-10496377.html
EDIT: windows 7 has a built in program: "Magnifier"
Has anyone else thought of a way that a 2nd monitor can benefit playing SC?
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I think someone had already posted about it and I think the answer most TL'er gave as that it should not be allowed because it clearly helps you, but probably not bannable by B.net.
So, merely unethical.
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no, and i wonder why you cant answer this yourself.
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no need it when you pay attention to minmap anyways
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It isn't against the letter of the rules but it is against the spirirt. So don't do it.
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ps, those 2 pictures are identical.
Personally I havent tried this and see no reason to, just further distance to move my eyes and harder to get an overview quickly... Your eyes need to scan the whole minimap in under a second, and having it larger will only make that take longer I assume? It's already large enough that its hard to miss things if you actually watch it.
Do you feel that this actually helps you?
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On May 27 2011 22:03 green.at wrote:
no, and i wonder why you cant answer this yourself.
this.
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I doubt its illegal, but it is slightly unethical. And if you get used to playing like that you will have trouble if you ever participate in a LAN-event.
And in any competition it does give you an unfair advantage.
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If you have that kind of questions, you should always ask yourself : "Would they let me do this in a LAN tournament".
Would they let you bring a second monitor and plug it in before your games to do this? No.
Is it fair/ethical? No.
Will you get ban for it? No.
Will you get better playing like this? In fact you'll get worse, because I'll get used to having a stupidly big "mini"map.
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Having turned it on last night/this morning I don't really find myself looking away from the main monitor that often. The only thing is the alerts seem to be more noticeable out of my peripheral vision.
Other than that, I thought it was cool idea and didn't see a post about it when I searched the forums. Maybe someone can use the program in a non-sc setting.
edit: only difference between the two screenshots is the resolution.
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you couldn't do it on a LAN tournament so no point really.
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On May 27 2011 22:13 monkh wrote:
you couldn't do it on a LAN tournament so no point really.
I rebind my capslock to control (in both linux and windows) for all apps because it is 100x more ergonmic and lowers the risk of carpal tunnel. Does your argument also make this illegal?
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The intressting part is how this would affect minimap clicking, such as feedbacking ghosts by using the minimap. The reason to why most people said it was fair was due to the small size of the minimap compared to the gamemap made it hard to specificly click on unit on the minimap.
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I don't think you'd get banned for using something like this, as there's probably a dozen of reasons why someone could need a program like this.
But I personally wouldn't use it, not saying that it is cheating, it would just feel like cheating to me.
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Word, I only play a few games a day, all random team. Never played at a LAN but I can see you all's point in that regard. I was just thinking about how to utilize a second monitor and found the software to pull it off, so I posted the info.
The only real benefit is that it makes me feel like I got a command center going - extra nerd points. Otherwise do not worry, I will not be storming the grandmaster league anytime soon 8)
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I don't think there is anything wrong with it, I don't see how it would really be that big of an advantage since it doesn't actually display any new information and good players train themselves to constantly look at the minimap anyway. A-OK imo.
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On May 27 2011 22:10 lurked wrote:
If you have that kind of questions, you should always ask yourself : "Would they let me do this in a LAN tournament".
Would they let you bring a second monitor and plug it in before your games to do this? No.
Is it fair/ethical? No.
Will you get ban for it? No.
Will you get better playing like this? In fact you'll get worse, because I'll get used to having a stupidly big "mini"map.
well said, sir.
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Is it fair? Well no by definition it's not fair.
But is it cheating? Is having a 20foot monitor cheating?? :p
I actually think this is a really cool idea and I'm definitely going to set it up myself.
I don't actually think this will give you an advantage either it's just cool. When you're playing seriously at high speed you're so focused on one screen I don't see how glancing over to another screeen would help.
This is just on the same level as having a friend sitting behind you while you play who says things like "you've got 4 guys on gas".
Unfair yes, cheating no not really.
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On May 27 2011 22:10 lurked wrote:
If you have that kind of questions, you should always ask yourself : "Would they let me do this in a LAN tournament".
Would they let you bring a second monitor and plug it in before your games to do this? No.
Is it fair/ethical? No.
Will you get ban for it? No.
Will you get better playing like this? In fact you'll get worse, because I'll get used to having a stupidly big "mini"map.
Yeah this is exactly how it is. And it's not even close if it's a cheat or not imo
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I don't know if it's illegal. But it is defnitely not fair.
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