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On May 27 2011 22:16 Griffith` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 22:13 monkh wrote:
you couldn't do it on a LAN tournament so no point really. I rebind my capslock to control (in both linux and windows) for all apps because it is 100x more ergonmic and lowers the risk of carpal tunnel. Does your argument also make this illegal?
Keybinds for SC2 are saved on Bnet. Are you sure LANs force you to use stock keybinds otherwise?
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You probably wont be banned, but manipulating gameplay in any way that the game on it's own doesnt allow you to I consider cheating.
So stop it.
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On May 27 2011 22:16 Griffith` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 22:13 monkh wrote:
you couldn't do it on a LAN tournament so no point really. I rebind my capslock to control (in both linux and windows) for all apps because it is 100x more ergonmic and lowers the risk of carpal tunnel. Does your argument also make this illegal?
You can do THAT on a LAN tournament though.
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Do whatever you want. If you were ever going to play at a LAN, the question is pretty god damn obvious.
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This is like when people were asking if they could get banned using timers for queen injects. Do people really think Blizzard can monitor things outside the game that don't directly affect anything in game?
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You can train yourself to stare at the thing or just get an outrageously large monitor.
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It's not fair that people like MC and Idra get to play at a higher level than me.
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On May 27 2011 22:16 Griffith` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 22:13 monkh wrote:
you couldn't do it on a LAN tournament so no point really. I rebind my capslock to control (in both linux and windows) for all apps because it is 100x more ergonmic and lowers the risk of carpal tunnel. Does your argument also make this illegal?
Do you use Capslock that much?
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It's definately ok on ladder, not possible on LAN and imo cheating in onlinetournaments.
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It's fair, don't let any of these dumdums tell you otherwise. They're too lazy to go get a second monitor
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On May 27 2011 23:12 Hawk wrote:
It's fair, don't let any of these dumdums tell you otherwise. They're too lazy to go get a second monitor
I second this. It's perfectly fine, and you're most likely not going to be playing some hardcore LAN tournament to worry about anyways. I don't think it's particularly useful (more screen distance to travel to see the enlarged minimap, + it's right next to the normal one) but that's as far as my "complaint" would go.
It's similar to playing with or without widescreen, which IIRC was shown to display more on the screen. I don't have widescreen. But I'm not gonna go kicking and screaming IT'S UNFAIR just because people do.
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id feel cheap using something that isnt allowed at lan events on ladder and id always feel better thinking my and my opponent were on an even playing field. makes it feel more fun for me personally
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On May 27 2011 23:12 Hawk wrote:
It's fair, don't let any of these dumdums tell you otherwise. They're too lazy to go get a second monitor
I agree. Some people seem butthurt about it - also doesn't seem you care about LANs, so screw them 
On May 27 2011 22:21 boombtz wrote:
The only real benefit is that it makes me feel like I got a command center going - extra nerd points. )
Hell yeah lol.
Gonna try out the program myself.
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It's cheating, and don't let any dumdums tell you otherwise.
You're modifying your playing experience in a way that gives you an advantage and that the designers didn't intend. It's cheating regardless of how acessible it is to other players.
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On May 27 2011 22:16 Griffith` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 22:13 monkh wrote:
you couldn't do it on a LAN tournament so no point really. I rebind my capslock to control (in both linux and windows) for all apps because it is 100x more ergonmic and lowers the risk of carpal tunnel. Does your argument also make this illegal?
I should try this because I have the Steel Series 7G keyboard and my control button literally shoots out many times when playing a game, often when I'm in a rush and I have to actually stop and put it back on, such a pain! lol
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It's going to make a negligible difference imo, doesn't really matter.
But yeh it's not really in the ~spirit~ of things I guess.
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How is this not fair? How is using your resources available to get every advantage unfair?
Is it unfair that I have a superior mechanical keyboard and a better mouse than people I ladder against? No it's not. They have the same capacity as I (as a player of the game) to go buy the superior product to help improve their game. This is the exact same reasons.
Is it unfair that I can change my in game settings to help me view cloaked units better, while someone else must play on low in ordre to play? No it isn't, because they can go buy a better computer in order to do the same thing.
This is exactly the same reasoning and thought process. It is FAIR because I am the one playing the game against my opponent. This may help play the game, but it doesn't play the game for me. Its the same reasoning and logic of a new mouse/keyboard. They help improve playing the game but they don't play the game for you. You still have to go out and play the game in order to get results.
Now, is it unethical? Who dictates ethics, the community or the TOS/game itself? Is this cheating? No it is using resources available to the user. I don't view that as unethical at all.
You can't use this at LAN tournaments? What about ones where you BYOC and there is no limit on monitors/space. If the tournament doesn't explicitly say you can not have more than one monitor, then you are welcome to bring two and use this program.
Is it unethical in the community sense? That's for the community to decide. One isn't required to say GG after every game, and they don't have to say GL HF GG, etc in the beginning of the game. It is in their best interest to, because when invites go out for tournaments, they are more likely to choose players without a bad rep. EX: CombatEx. Why doesn't he get invited to any lower tier tournaments? Probably his reputation, however he plays the game according to the rules setforth by Blizzard and Battle.net and he has success with them.
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Seems fair to me, why wouldnt it be?
If that isnt fair then using a large monitor isnt fair either? Makes no sense.
On May 27 2011 23:18 GagnarTheUnruly wrote:
It's cheating, and don't let any dumdums tell you otherwise.
You're modifying your playing experience in a way that gives you an advantage and that the designers didn't intend. It's cheating regardless of how acessible it is to other players.
Modifying your playing experience so that it gives you an advantage? Uhh, by that definition having a good keyboard or being well rested is cheating as well. Or having better sound/video settings or better computer.
Pretty simple definition of cheating: breaking the rules of the game. ie. looking at your opponents screen/maphack etc.
I dont think there is a rule of how clear the minimap should be.
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