EPTGomTV caster: "Growth of e-sports" - Page 20
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Fishriot
United States621 Posts
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Sporadic44
United States533 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:51 Fishriot wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like most Koreans are completely ignorant to how much SC2 has blown up outside of Korea? do you speak with koreans about the esports scene outside of their own country regularly? or are you completely ignorant to their perspectives? to answer your question more directly. they are fully aware of it obviously. we have koreans playing tournaments like IEM, dreamhack, NASL, the TSL, and now MLG. for fucks sake you just posted this on a thread made by someone affiliated with gomtv, and on the subject of global esports. use your brain man. | ||
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akomatic
156 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:18 rotegirte wrote: Stop pretending your mentioned tournaments take turns every other week, and foreigners wouldn't have ample time between every event. If you would actually take a total prize/time quota EU/NA is not really above GSL is it? Yes it seems like the prize pools are similar, and GSL does wthat they can to reduce transportation and living costs. The reason that feels most compelling to me is this: foreigners feel like there is easier money elsewhere. A top-tier foreigner can win many small purses in a month. But the World Championship showed that top foreigners could easily be knocked out in the first or second round in a Korean LAN setting. If foreigners believed that they had a good chance to go deep in the Super Tournament, I think we'd seem more of them over there. | ||
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Xanwi
United Kingdom114 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:51 Fishriot wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like most Koreans are completely ignorant to how much SC2 has blown up outside of Korea? Oh, the irony.  | ||
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mistgun_EU
309 Posts
i hope the foreign team is either Dignitas or Mouz | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:51 Fishriot wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like most Koreans are completely ignorant to how much SC2 has blown up outside of Korea? Oh, the irony. Rofl yeah. Troll? If not, yes it's just you. And still, compared to Korea, SC2 hasn't blown up that much. At least, Starcraft in comparison (Western starcraft 2 scene like USA is nothing compared to korea's BW/SC2 scene) | ||
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:03 0neder wrote: Amen. It's time someone stepped up if they REALLY want to be the best. So far it's just been hot air except from Jinro and HuK. So code A can be a crapshoot? So you keep playing until you succeed. I agree, i think if foreigners want it bad enough they will take a shot at code A. | ||
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10or10
Sweden517 Posts
... Oh, I just realized that this may be the reason, is it because gomtv subscribers demand it? Can someone who is a more frequent reader of the forums explain this... | ||
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provrorsbarn
Sweden766 Posts
On May 28 2011 04:13 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Rofl yeah. Troll? If not, yes it's just you. And still, compared to Korea, SC2 hasn't blown up that much. At least, Starcraft in comparison (Western starcraft 2 scene like USA is nothing compared to korea's BW/SC2 scene) Starcraft 2 is pretty damn big in Europe if you ask me (dunno about US)....of course its not as big as bw korea....but bw has been around alot longer. Juding by the fast growth of SC2 in Europe...it wouldnt suprise me that GSL would get alot more Europeans in their leagues or Europe will start they own league in the next year..... Oh and GSL is doing an amazing job... | ||
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10or10
Sweden517 Posts
On May 28 2011 04:24 provrorsbarn wrote: Starcraft 2 is pretty damn big in Europe if you ask me (dunno about US)....of course its not as big as bw korea....but bw has been around alot longer. Juding by the fast growth of SC2 in Europe...it wouldnt suprise me that GSL would get alot more Europeans in their leagues or Europe will start they own league in the next year..... Oh and GSL is doing an amazing job... I guess he's pointing to the difference when comparing korean bw scene vs the current state of sc2 in the west. It's still a huge difference in price money and event scale. | ||
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Laneir
United States1160 Posts
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cyberspace
Canada955 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:39 Hall0wed wrote: That Anon fnatic member has to be TT1, he is just an angry person so don't mind him. TT1's reply had nothing BM or angry in it. The anon fnatic member he is referring to is Fams. He's just some random dude that writes random articles and posts in SC2 General for more views. | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
I think the teamleague formate is alot more entertaining to watch enjoyment-wise although it does make some matchups not happen that would be interesting (MVP vs. NesTea, etc). I think more foreign teams should be looking for have their players in Korea for GSL and GSTL as a team, to compete with the best on the biggest stage. In my opinion Players in Korea make a bigger name for themselves playing in GSL / GSTL then playing in NASL/IPL, etc just because GSL and GSTL is much more competitive and is backed by Blizzard and a major broadcasting company (Gom) aswell as much more competition. I myself would love to go to Korea if I was able to, just the experience would make me jump at the chance, playing with all of my idols, learning a new culture and just experiencing a change. Although it most likely wont happen because I am mid-high masters and don't have a competitive practice schedule that some people are able to "inherit" from teams, etc. I definitly think anyone who has the chance should go live there for a few seasons. Look at Jinro, Huk, Ret and TLO. They are absolute beasts now. | ||
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
This part is so true, of course they would, it just go to show overall how much more commited koreans are to starcraft. I really hope more foreigners will follow their dreams and try to acheive greatness in the GSL. | ||
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cheesemaster
Canada1975 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:51 Fishriot wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like most Koreans are completely ignorant to how much SC2 has blown up outside of Korea? lol seriously? of course they do, but right now korea still has a much larger esports fan base than the west. What is the most youve seen on a tournament stream for a western tournament, probably 60k for the TSL finals, GSL posts much higher numbers than these everyday, I know that they have gotten 400k viewers on stream alone for a finals (cant remember exactly where i read that ><) thats not including viewrers on anibox though just korean and foreign streams. E sports may be getting bigger and bigger outside of korea, but it is no where near reaching the point of esports in korea yet, look at NASL they post 10-15k viewers , that really isnt that many in the whole scheme of things esports potential is huge in the west, its just not getting the numbers yet. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
On May 28 2011 04:28 10or10 wrote: I guess he's pointing to the difference when comparing korean bw scene vs the current state of sc2 in the west. It's still a huge difference in price money and event scale. Yeah, I think that's what provrorsbarn understood but just disagreed with. I forget, sorry for a bit of ignorance, I live in USA where eSports is probably way behind Europe. USA is too stubborn and feels too superior to try new things from other countries, always looking down at things like eSports. And well, actually the prize money in foreign countries is probably about the same, if not bigger. In BW the prize money is much much less than NASL for example, or other leagues which are having a standard of $50,000 first prize. But if you compare SC2 in foreign nations with SC2 in Korea, it's about the same. But anyways, when you say pri[z]e money you probably just mean finance, right? In which case is right of course, since BW pros get paid so much ^_^ | ||
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
On May 27 2011 20:01 ceciljacobs wrote: it's gotta be dignitas. naniwa has talked about spending time on korea, select *is* korean and I think sjow mentioned it in the past at some point. i couldn't see it being any other team. Yeah, it would be awesome and I think they might do pretty well | ||
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Moosy
Canada396 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
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Crisco
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