EPTGomTV caster: "Growth of e-sports" - Page 19
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Crebstar
United States151 Posts
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Trowa127
United Kingdom1230 Posts
'I have provided “opportunity” through “system”, and “opportunity” is all that I can provide. Creating “results” is not my job but up to the players themselves, through their will and amount of practice. ' | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:06 Aurdon wrote: They still just don't get it. Sure they have tons of tournaments during the year, but they only run one tournament at a time. There is ONLY GSL there. There are no smaller cups. There are no other big tournaments. There is no other way to compete for those months that you are in Korea except to play in GSL tournaments. If you get eliminated early, you just have to sit on your hands and wait for the next tournament. If you are in the foreigner scene and get elimated from NASL, you can compete in MLG. If you get eliminated from Dreamhack, you can compete in craft cups. There are MORE opportunities to compete in the foreigner scene. If you want people to compete in Korea, grow the scene beyond GSL tournaments. Stop pretending your mentioned tournaments take turns every other week, and foreigners wouldn't have ample time between every event. If you would actually take a total prize/time quota EU/NA is not really above GSL is it? | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:06 Aurdon wrote: They still just don't get it. Sure they have tons of tournaments during the year, but they only run one tournament at a time. There is ONLY GSL there. There are no smaller cups. There are no other big tournaments. There is no other way to compete for those months that you are in Korea except to play in GSL tournaments. If you get eliminated early, you just have to sit on your hands and wait for the next tournament. If you are in the foreigner scene and get elimated from NASL, you can compete in MLG. If you get eliminated from Dreamhack, you can compete in craft cups. There are MORE opportunities to compete in the foreigner scene. If you want people to compete in Korea, grow the scene beyond GSL tournaments. this is factually incorrect, there are a number of tournaments outside gsl -every month SK runs a 16-32 man champions trophy -fxo has its koth every month or so -csn ran some tournaments just recently -there were the tournaments a couple months ago, ygosu and danawa -lg is putting on another tournament, regional qualifiers are almost over | ||
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Xkalibert
United States1404 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:06 Aurdon wrote: They still just don't get it. Sure they have tons of tournaments during the year, but they only run one tournament at a time. There is ONLY GSL there. There are no smaller cups. There are no other big tournaments. There is no other way to compete for those months that you are in Korea except to play in GSL tournaments. If you get eliminated early, you just have to sit on your hands and wait for the next tournament. If you are in the foreigner scene and get elimated from NASL, you can compete in MLG. If you get eliminated from Dreamhack, you can compete in craft cups. There are MORE opportunities to compete in the foreigner scene. If you want people to compete in Korea, grow the scene beyond GSL tournaments. What's preventing Foreigners living in Korea to compete in NASL, IPL, and other small online tournament? and Also MLG and Dreamhack tournament can be attended by People who are competeing in GSL. MC, Bomber, MMA, Losira, Jinro and Huk. Suck it up and take the risks(money, time, commitment) to get bigger reward(pride, honor, prestige and fame). | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15728 Posts
This post completely alleviates that fear, and I am very excited to see how things continue to develop  Props, GSL, continuing to lead the industry. | ||
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ahx
Canada132 Posts
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
.Secondly, thank you very much for your concern for non-Korean players playing in Korea and with the development of professional SC. Keep up the good work with the GSL! | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:06 Aurdon wrote: They still just don't get it. Sure they have tons of tournaments during the year, but they only run one tournament at a time. There is ONLY GSL there. There are no smaller cups. There are no other big tournaments. There is no other way to compete for those months that you are in Korea except to play in GSL tournaments. If you get eliminated early, you just have to sit on your hands and wait for the next tournament. If you are in the foreigner scene and get elimated from NASL, you can compete in MLG. If you get eliminated from Dreamhack, you can compete in craft cups. There are MORE opportunities to compete in the foreigner scene. If you want people to compete in Korea, grow the scene beyond GSL tournaments. How about i dunno. training? You got this whole korean ladder and maybe its not the top pro's that use their best strategies you will get better. | ||
zere
Germany1287 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:06 Aurdon wrote:There is ONLY GSL there. There are no smaller cups. There are no other big tournaments. There is no other way to compete for those months that you are in Korea except to play in GSL tournaments. This argument is being brought up so many times now, and it is shared by many teams, as we could recently see in these threads. And it is completely invalid. Some months ago, I mailed one of my EU guest passes to none other than Cella. Yes, it was a horribly high latency from KR. He then tried again, using a tunnel to play on EU, totally free of lag. Somehow it must be possible for these giant foreign powerhouse teams to spent 20 bucks per month. Missing out all the Zotac, Go4Sc2, Cyborg, Craftcup, Competo, TLOpen, 4pl, Gamecreds cups? No excuse anymore. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:22 Antoine wrote: this is factually incorrect, there are a number of tournaments outside gsl -every month SK runs a 16-32 man champions trophy -fxo has its koth every month or so -csn ran some tournaments just recently -there were the tournaments a couple months ago, ygosu and danawa -lg is putting on another tournament, regional qualifiers are almost over Not to mention iCCup have announced their new weekly tournament (a tournament where GOM helped them with networking within the scene) which will have $1300 in prizes for the first month. | ||
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WilliamDecker
Canada43 Posts
Your response was both diplomatic and encouraging. We are lucky as fans to have you listen to our concerns. As true fans we also appreciate the ability to listen to your concerns. At the very heart of what we love we are all the same. Our views on how things should operate will always be a debate. You are doing a great job and I'm thankful to have you, John, Tasteless, Artosis and others working very hard to make this all a reality. I appreciate everything you've done so far and wish you more success. Thank you for taking the time to address the foreign fans. Also be sure to take the time to understand the views of your true fans. Maybe a suggestion would be to e-mail fans (who are registered on GOMTV) and ask them questions on the tournament and how you could make it better. Sometimes the vocal minority is the voice that's heard the loudest. I have faith in your team to make the best decisions. Working with other foreign communities is a clear sign of your true intentions. Thanks again, William Decker | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On May 28 2011 03:22 Antoine wrote: this is factually incorrect, there are a number of tournaments outside gsl -every month SK runs a 16-32 man champions trophy -fxo has its koth every month or so -csn ran some tournaments just recently -there were the tournaments a couple months ago, ygosu and danawa -lg is putting on another tournament, regional qualifiers are almost over and the gainward tourney (I mention it because it had a pretty high prizepool iirc) | ||
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Voldron
Greece91 Posts
On May 27 2011 20:32 Vorlik wrote: I love you gom! Continue taking my money (= LoL... BUt i feel the same way :p | ||
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Tryxtira
Sweden572 Posts
I just want to start with telling you how grateful I am about you taking your time to type this long, clear and very informative thread. I do agree with you on almost every level. I believe that GOMTV is really doing their absolute best to be as awesome as possible and I have to say that the GSL has been handled in a almost perfect way from the very beginning. You have been very responsive to criticism and that's pretty much the best you can do. The only thing I want to try and add myself is about what you typed about that the Korean pros would go to NA. I believe this to be absolutely true, but that's because it is still impossible to compare the Korean scene and pros to the western ones. In Korea, from what I've understood, e-sports has been a socially and culturally accepted sport. This is not the case in the rest of the world. It's just now starting to get more and more press from the "normal" media. So what difference does this make? Well, a Korean SC2-pro who follow their dream and try to be the best in the world will get a lot of support from home and from friends. Them going over-seas is simply just cool and awesome. In the West, I don't believe this would be the case. Parents, family, friends would not have the same overall understanding for the dream as they would in Korea. I'm not saying this is a deciding factor, but I personally believe it's something to be taken into account! Once again, thank you for your awesome post! Tryx | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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fire_brand
Canada1123 Posts
Whoever it is it will be awesome! | ||
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Stiluz
Norway688 Posts
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
Edit: On 2nd thought EG has a lot going on in the US | ||
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dubRa
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