EPTOn May 25 2011 03:07 multrak wrote:
There is a mature label posted up front. It's on the outside of the box.
There is a mature label posted up front. It's on the outside of the box.
No there's a T label and there's no need to be an ass about it.
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Longshank
1648 Posts
No there's a T label and there's no need to be an ass about it. | ||
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Jarky
Sweden26 Posts
A persons maturity can be reflected in his use of language. That's atleast something I've learned from meeting other people. And if we want e-Sports to grow we should present the scene more maturely. At the same time I like the chill attitude and the using of jokes during the commentating. So it's not like we have to choose one or the other. We can have both. | ||
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Mailing
United States3087 Posts
On May 25 2011 03:12 Firesilver wrote: But that's to play the game. Not to watch it, By that logic if Football could only be played 18+ then you'd be saying people can't watch who are under 18 for example. I can't see any harm in a special symbol showing if the show is going to contain alot of cussing or anything for that matter. It's not hard to do and just helps people choosing what to watch. So it's ok for kids to watch others having sex since they are not doing it themselves :3 | ||
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Firesilver
United Kingdom1190 Posts
On May 25 2011 03:15 Mailing wrote: So it's ok for kids to watch others having sex since they are not doing it themselves :3 I wish you could've posted a serious reply, That's obviously a different matter and not related what so ever. However as someone posted above me; This would also be a good thing for showing friends/family about Starcraft/eSports and would be great to be involving more people in it. | ||
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multrak
Canada5 Posts
On May 25 2011 03:12 Firesilver wrote: But that's to play the game. Not to watch it, By that logic if Football could only be played 18+ then you'd be saying people can't watch who are under 18 for example. I can't see any harm in a special symbol showing if the show is going to contain alot of cussing or anything for that matter. It's not hard to do and just helps people choosing what to watch. If you go into the situation knowing the content being reviewed/watched is mature, you should expect mature content? Amazing. | ||
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Soma.bokforlag
Sweden448 Posts
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Firesilver
United Kingdom1190 Posts
On May 25 2011 03:18 multrak wrote: If you go into the situation knowing the content being reviewed/watched is mature, you should expect mature content? Amazing. As someone else stated, It's a T label actually. But you're saying the content is "mature" and yet there is no complaint about that, The OP is saying about the actual casting/commentating being Mature and no warning when going to watch it. He's not saying anything about the game's ESRB rating at all. | ||
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Vipsanius
Netherlands708 Posts
I think that solution is too good. Streamers could write in their stream description: "I use mature language" or "I refrain from profane language" and the problem is solved. If a streamer does not write that, watch at your own peril. | ||
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
On May 25 2011 03:19 Soma.bokforlag wrote: does some far right christian boys still dont know all these words by age 8 in america? thats strange.. do they know theres an act called love making or do you not get to know about these things until after marriage? they do know all of them... but for some reasons parents here choose the least important things to worry about when parenting but please know that not all of US citizens are like this | ||
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multrak
Canada5 Posts
On May 25 2011 03:21 Firesilver wrote: As someone else stated, It's a T label actually. But you're saying the content is "mature" and yet there is no complaint about that, The OP is saying about the actual casting/commentating being Mature and no warning when going to watch it. He's not saying anything about the game's ESRB rating at all. Fine, it's Teen. Doesn't change much considering the situation. Perhaps I'll start a dildo review blog but ensure that I keep the language civil. After all, I don't want to offend any father's that may be reviewing the content with their small children. | ||
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JayJay_90
Germany1632 Posts
On May 25 2011 03:25 multrak wrote: Fine, it's Teen. Doesn't change much considering the situation. Perhaps I'll start a dildo review blog but ensure that I keep the language civil. After all, I don't want to offend any father's that may be reviewing the content with their small children. you just made my day :D | ||
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Craze
United States561 Posts
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On May 25 2011 03:21 Firesilver wrote: As someone else stated, It's a T label actually. But you're saying the content is "mature" and yet there is no complaint about that, The OP is saying about the actual casting/commentating being Mature and no warning when going to watch it. He's not saying anything about the game's ESRB rating at all. Starcraft 2 has a T rating. By all means play the campaign if you want to experience that T rating. Blizzard isn't responsible for what people say online. Tournaments and casted events have absolutely nothing to do with a game's age rating. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On May 25 2011 03:25 multrak wrote: Fine, it's Teen. Doesn't change much considering the situation. Perhaps I'll start a dildo review blog but ensure that I keep the language civil. After all, I don't want to offend any father's that may be reviewing the content with their small children. Somehow I don't think maturity is something you're qualified to discuss. On the subject of the, well subject. Swearing while as far as I'm concerned, irrelevant, doesn't add anything to a broadcast and usuall indicates a lack of diverse vocabulary on the part of the person using it. It doesn't have any place in broadcast sports, e or otherwise. | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
To be realistic about it, it would certainly be a possibility for NASL and MLG but I don't see how you can expect TLO and 2gd casting a Swedish event to adhere to and follow some american labeling system. Sweden and Swedish organisations(used as an example since it's the culture I know) will never allow any form of cencorship, ever. You can't force them to label their stream inappropriate for kids since they don't believe it is. | ||
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Vardant
Czech Republic620 Posts
On May 25 2011 03:27 Offhand wrote: Tournaments and casted events have absolutely nothing to do with a game's age rating. That's where you're wrong. The violence is still there. | ||
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Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
Also since some people are bringing it up as if it's some extreme: GSL already censors out the blood in their casts. I would prefer tournaments to be more or less PG, I think GSL has the occasional use of the word "damn" and that's about it. | ||
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Vardant
Czech Republic620 Posts
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On May 25 2011 01:16 Demonace34 wrote: Gretorp's sexual language should only be picked up by an adult minds filter of what is inappropriate. I doubt that at 12 or 8 years old I would of deciphered or did anything other than giggle when Gretorp keeps these sexual innuendos going. I mean I'm all the time watching old movies/tv shows I watched when I was younger, and discovering a big difference in experience, where I missed or just didn't understand all these jokes that were a bit cryptic(and sometimes even not so cryptic). This has mostly to do with sexual jokes. Violent stuff("x just got raped" etc) is however a different story, which I think commentators of big tournies should refrain from using(tbh I don't recall them using those kind of lines anyway), and I doubt it would make the viewing experience any worse for the rest of the viewers. For streams... Well I mean it might be a good idea, but for the most part I think you'll just see everyone tagging themselves with "I use mature language", better than being "PG language" and getting all hell loose on them when they swear after loosing to an allin. | ||
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Fission
Canada1184 Posts
I 100% agree. There's no reason why casters need to make crude, offensive, or vulgar jokes either - it doesn't add anything to the cast. Tastosis manages to be funny without resorting to that, I don't see why casters for large tournaments like NASL/IPL/GSL etc need to use that kind of language. Nobody (except for the parents) would even notice if they just used clean language, so why not do it? At the very least I would hope that some kind of rating system could be implemented. I find the hypocrisy in this thread a bit sickening, to be honest. On one hand, so many people on this forum are waving the "esports" flag around at every possible opportunity, doing their best to make "esports" big in the west, but when somebody comes around making a very minor and reasonable request (rating system) you all jump all over him. He didn't come here asking for parenting advice, that's his business. Your opinion of whether or not a 10 year old should hear crude sexual jokes and swearing is completely irrelevant, in fact. The fact is that the language IS a barrier of entry for some people, and that we might consider doing something about that. | ||
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