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Zhypher_Bronzer
Profile Joined February 2011
United States24 Posts
May 21 2011 03:33 GMT
#221
im gold and beating diamonds xD i hate locked ladder
Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12238 Posts
May 21 2011 03:34 GMT
#222
On May 21 2011 12:22 Feito wrote:
So does this mean our MMR is locked as well?


No.
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tsarnicky
Profile Joined May 2011
104 Posts
May 21 2011 03:35 GMT
#223
altho i don't think i have this bug, over the last few days i've been matched up with altern hi bronze and hi plat (i'm in hi gold) so, those bronz ppl prolly have this bug, thanks for the post: i was wondering what was happening
good macro... all is good... perfect -oGsMC
Schoenhole
Profile Joined March 2011
United States88 Posts
May 21 2011 03:37 GMT
#224
This explains a lot, I was trying to lower my rank to plat so I could start playing terran (as I was growing tired of toss/zerg) and I couldn't understand why they were matching me against silver/gold when I was still in masters.
(╮°-°)╮︵┳━┳ tables don't like to be flipped
DiDigital
Profile Joined February 2011
75 Posts
May 21 2011 04:05 GMT
#225
On May 21 2011 03:31 SDream wrote:

2) Bonus pool is still increasing at the same pace, normally, that also means that GM players are still being kicked from GM league as soon as they reach 181 bonus pool. But they cannot get into another league after that!


I wonder if that is why the GM page bugged out and why there was the creation of a second GM division...

If demotion was broken but promotion still worked then we would see this behavior. Also the natural quick fix would be to disable promotion until a true solution was found.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25996 Posts
May 21 2011 04:36 GMT
#226
It seems that there are new leagues as well obviously to accommodate placement players. Went 4-1 in placement 2v1 and needed one more game to get to rank 1 Diamond in the league everybody else in there had barely played, so there ARE new leagues being made. Once placed we played high diamonds (we were favoured), and mid golds (they were favoured apparently), which is a bit strange to me.

Obviously team modes skew things about MMR wise, but it's still a bit weird at the moment.

I got my account back off my friend, who had me placed bronze 1v1 and I got up to silver in relatively few games, then the patch hit and I've been stuck there ever since. Even tested it by getting a masters friend to win a ton of games on the trot and no change. Then I screwed around to try and even it out by tanking games and bringing my MMR back down a bit, mass collosus drops and ridiculous things, and still no change.

Really badly worded, but might well be my first post. Great community here from a long time lurker!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12238 Posts
May 21 2011 04:38 GMT
#227
Okay I re-read the OP and it's pretty wrong. If leagues are locked, they're locked for everyone. Also, the blue post linked in the OP does not address whether the leagues are locked or not, and it would take a pretty enormous leap to reach that conclusion. Please fix it.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12238 Posts
May 21 2011 04:43 GMT
#228
On May 21 2011 13:36 Ubertron wrote:
It seems that there are new leagues as well obviously to accommodate placement players. Went 4-1 in placement 2v1 and needed one more game to get to rank 1 Diamond in the league everybody else in there had barely played, so there ARE new leagues being made. Once placed we played high diamonds (we were favoured), and mid golds (they were favoured apparently), which is a bit strange to me.

Obviously team modes skew things about MMR wise, but it's still a bit weird at the moment.

I got my account back off my friend, who had me placed bronze 1v1 and I got up to silver in relatively few games, then the patch hit and I've been stuck there ever since. Even tested it by getting a masters friend to win a ton of games on the trot and no change. Then I screwed around to try and even it out by tanking games and bringing my MMR back down a bit, mass collosus drops and ridiculous things, and still no change.

Really badly worded, but might well be my first post. Great community here from a long time lurker!


League locks have never affected initial placement, so no surprise there.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25996 Posts
May 21 2011 04:46 GMT
#229
Well yeah obviously I worded that badly but my point being that there is physical space for people moving around league to league if there is space for placement players.

I don't really know wtf the problem is, whether it's an intentional lock or some screwup as a result of other tweaks to the MMS. My initial thoughts were that it was to prevent people like that drop-hacker (sorry the name escapes me) flooding the higher leagues until they got a permanent fix, but that wouldn't really make sense proportionally. Anybody else got any theories on this?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 21 2011 04:49 GMT
#230
Well this is a bummer. I was going to mass team games this weekend to get all the pretty master stars. Yeah I have OCD about profile. :O
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 21 2011 04:52 GMT
#231
Well, this explains why I'm not being promoted into Plat despite rolling through several Plat players last night.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Divination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States139 Posts
May 21 2011 04:53 GMT
#232
Definitely bugged. Been rank 1 platinum playing high diamond/low masters players since my 5th game and I've probably played about 50 by now.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 21 2011 04:55 GMT
#233
On May 21 2011 13:49 crms wrote:
Well this is a bummer. I was going to mass team games this weekend to get all the pretty master stars. Yeah I have OCD about profile. :O

Yeah, same here. I finally can play with my friends on CN server, and we plan to spend our weekend at a local PC bangs to get ourselves in Master.
We were winning 70% for the last 15 games or so and still stuck in Plat. Well, hope that they will auto promote if our MMR is high enough once they sort this out.
Terran
Ameba-AZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States79 Posts
May 21 2011 04:56 GMT
#234
Finally it all makes sense...
I sometimes do something other then play Starcraft... Rarely.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12238 Posts
May 21 2011 05:01 GMT
#235
On May 21 2011 13:46 Ubertron wrote:
Well yeah obviously I worded that badly but my point being that there is physical space for people moving around league to league if there is space for placement players.

I don't really know wtf the problem is, whether it's an intentional lock or some screwup as a result of other tweaks to the MMS. My initial thoughts were that it was to prevent people like that drop-hacker (sorry the name escapes me) flooding the higher leagues until they got a permanent fix, but that wouldn't really make sense proportionally. Anybody else got any theories on this?


That's not how it works though. There is always "more room" for players. Leagues don't have quotas or anything. If your MMR falls within the range of a league, you get placed in that league. It's only league changes that are affected, not initial placement. But, players have to get placed after 5 games and go somewhere, or they'd be in the same situation as GM players who have fallen inactive who are literally in no league at all and not ranked anywhere. Even when the leagues were locked at the end of Season 1, players could still be placed in any league according to their MMR, they just couldn't change leagues.
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mewbert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States291 Posts
May 21 2011 05:14 GMT
#236
is there an eta for a fix..considering its been down since the 13th im not feeling hopeful and its just demotivating to ladder when its like this, rank 1 gold fighting high diamond
jere
Profile Joined September 2010
United States121 Posts
May 21 2011 05:23 GMT
#237
On May 21 2011 14:14 mewby wrote:
is there an eta for a fix..considering its been down since the 13th im not feeling hopeful and its just demotivating to ladder when its like this, rank 1 gold fighting high diamond



Just think of it this way the diamond players see your profile and see your are gold. What do they think? You get to troll them for free and fun.

Gold payer had some wins, got some Plat players and then the next match was vs Silver but Silver had 300 points on me and were as good or better than me. So even more info that league dose not matter.
Avi-Love
Profile Joined November 2003
Denmark423 Posts
May 21 2011 05:32 GMT
#238
It's pretty hilarious, I have around 1.4k points in my platinum division, playing only vs grandmasters now, I get SO much anger from people when they lose (OMFG HOW CAN I LOSE TO A PLATINUM NOOB?)
VPC
Profile Joined May 2010
United States135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 05:43:22
May 21 2011 05:43 GMT
#239
I miss the Warcraft 3 ladder

diddLY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States215 Posts
May 21 2011 05:59 GMT
#240
The MMR is still working as intended, so I'm assuming once ladder is fixed it will start to adjust everyone's league. So I wouldn't just stop playing the game because you can't get promoted/demoted.
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