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On May 24 2011 14:08 Phanekim wrote:
has anyone considered the possibility that idra's been busy lately and probably doesn't even care about this tournament?
imho he played like complete garbage. i wonder if the lag and the lesser prestige of this tournament in his eyes played a factor.
Pretty sure idra would care about a 6k top prize, god idra fanboys are just as bad as MC's
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On May 24 2011 14:13 Dommk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 14:08 Phanekim wrote:
has anyone considered the possibility that idra's been busy lately and probably doesn't even care about this tournament?
imho he played like complete garbage. i wonder if the lag and the lesser prestige of this tournament in his eyes played a factor. Or maybe, just maybe....xiaOt played better than him.
Blasphemy. How can you even suggest such a thing?
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Lol, i highly doubt that his team mate is twice as good as idra...
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On May 24 2011 14:08 Phanekim wrote:
has anyone considered the possibility that idra's been busy lately and probably doesn't even care about this tournament?
imho he played like complete garbage. i wonder if the lag and the lesser prestige of this tournament in his eyes played a factor. Would be really unprofessional and weak from Idra, so... I hope not?
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On May 24 2011 14:05 Mailing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 14:01 Dommk wrote:On May 24 2011 13:34 Mailing wrote:
How can you go from
"Thank you, every game was strenuous. The thought I had in my heart was to take every game seriously."
To
"My practice partner is 2x better than him"
If his zerg partner was 2x better than idra, and idra almost beat Xaiot, why isn't this chinese zerg showing us all how to play and not making the top 4 protoss players?
Seems like he super contradicted himself there... Probably because he was playing with latency (China->NA) and his Zerg partner wasn't invited. Haven't seen the games, probably wasn't as close as the translation makes it out to be if Idra lost 200 supply to 130 -__- Zerg always hit 200 when a protoss is around 140-150, roach supply is meaningless especially when sentries are in play.
A) That would mean a minimum 50 roaches to be even.
B) Most toss players are at 160-170 supply, 130 is quite behind. IdrA didn't take advantage of it.
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On May 19 2011 02:45 Tael wrote:
Q: For this tournament the Chinese players have been performing very well, but winning against marineking (direct translation is "mountain buns:, after searching baidu, I am pretty sure this is marineking) sparked the most attention, what do you see with this?
山寨 : slang for counterfeit/fake
包哥 : Brother Bao (Boxer)
山包 : Foxer
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All four of the semifinalists are Protoss? Really? I was looking forward to an epic final four showdown in Shanghai, not the same match-up over and over.
Three Chinese players made it to the finals, so they I guess they will get more international fans as a result. (Trying to look on the bright side here  )
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There's no one more upset about XiaoT vs Idra than I am. Idra coming to shanghai was all I could ever talk about to my friends last week. However it was clearly Idra's own fault for losing both games. First game, I really feel like there was no need at all to tosh rush even if it was laggy, and second game, Idra's unit composition was pretty shit compared to XiaoT's. The game would have looked a lot different I feel if Idra opted for more broodlords and hydras.
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United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On May 19 2011 03:10 cyclone25 wrote:xiaOt: "I feel like XiGua is two times better compared to Idra. Playing with Idra I do not feel any pressure at all." Rofl at that :D I remember watching IdrA's stream when he was playing in Korea and he said that xiaOt is one of the cheesiest players on the server. He indeed went for a 4gate and lost -.- Now xiaOt trash talks him back 
Pretty sure XiaoT ripped IdrA apart this time round. The Chinese SC2 scene only just got underway, check the channel NeoTV at www.Youku.com for all of their competitions. They currently have a HUGE offline LAN going on to select the final qualifiers for the WCG2011.
Welcome back Toodming, F91, Legend and co from SCBW :D
China is on the rise: SCBW: Korea (China is the best after Korea) Wc3: China, Dota: China, SCII: ?? Who will it be?
And I believe XiaoT when he says that Xigua is 2x better than IdrA when in practice. Chinese players work out BO's to the last mineral and plan for all forseeable outcomes. They pretty much copied the Koreans to the last probe in BW, and  Pj even took a game off Stork. I think that's pretty impressive tbh. (Lovett also took a game off a Korean. Forgot who though :p)
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On May 24 2011 14:48 JesusOurSaviour wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 03:10 cyclone25 wrote:xiaOt: "I feel like XiGua is two times better compared to Idra. Playing with Idra I do not feel any pressure at all." Rofl at that :D I remember watching IdrA's stream when he was playing in Korea and he said that xiaOt is one of the cheesiest players on the server. He indeed went for a 4gate and lost -.- Now xiaOt trash talks him back Pretty sure XiaoT ripped IdrA apart this time round. The Chinese SC2 scene only just got underway, check the channel NeoTV at www.Youku.com for all of their competitions. They currently have a HUGE offline LAN going on to select the final qualifiers for the WCG2011. Welcome back Toodming, F91, Legend and co from SCBW :D China is on the rise: SCBW: Korea (China is the best after Korea) Wc3: China, Dota: China, SCII: ?? Who will it be? And I believe XiaoT when he says that Xigua is 2x better than IdrA when in practice. Chinese players work out BO's to the last mineral and plan for all forseeable outcomes. They pretty much copied the Koreans to the last probe in BW, and Pj even took a game off Stork. I think that's pretty impressive tbh. (Lovett also took a game off a Korean. Forgot who though :p)
lots of players are amazing in practice, people start recognizing you when you actually do something with that.
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United States4053 Posts
两个档次 should mean "on two different levels," meaning that he thinks XiGua's gameplay is a tier above IdrA's.
An interesting interview, and good to see the Chinese scene picking up again.
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There is a suprising amount of arrogance in these interviews.
I'd like to see these players come out andp lay in some foreign (or korean) tournies so we can see if they are really as great as they talk/played this tourny.
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Quick Americans, we need to send our letters to statemen and Congressmen and let mobilize Sc2 programs in Junior High school and High school so we can take down China In the future. We can't let them humiliate us, they even beat us in gold medal counts Summer Olympics in 2008.
/joke
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On May 24 2011 15:02 Xkalibert wrote:
Quick Americans, we need to send our letters to statemen and Congressmen and let mobilize Sc2 programs in Junior High school and High school so we can take down China In the future. We can't let them humiliate us, they even beat us in gold medal counts Summer Olympics in 2008.
/joke
Send in Phelps, he will restore our honor and beat the chinese at sc2!
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On May 24 2011 14:54 infinitestory wrote:
两个档次 should mean "on two different levels," meaning that he thinks XiGua's gameplay is a tier above IdrA's.
An interesting interview, and good to see the Chinese scene picking up again.
我觉得西瓜比Idra要强2个档次。
He's saying that XiGua's gameplay is two tiers above Idra's.
I kind of like the arrogance though, gives flavor to the scene. Also, look at the players they beat to get there. Only 6 Chinese in the Ro32 (compared to say, 12 Koreans) and now there are 3 in the semi-finals. Lag or no lag, I'd say a bit of arrogance is deserved here.
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On May 24 2011 14:22 Dracid wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 02:45 Tael wrote:
Q: For this tournament the Chinese players have been performing very well, but winning against marineking (direct translation is "mountain buns:, after searching baidu, I am pretty sure this is marineking) sparked the most attention, what do you see with this?
山寨 : slang for counterfeit/fake 包哥 : Brother Bao (Boxer) 山包 : Foxer
haha mountain buns~ that's so cute :3 it's my new pet name for MKP <3's
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On May 19 2011 04:09 FrostShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 03:51 sesmc wrote:On May 19 2011 03:39 FrostShadow wrote:On May 19 2011 03:10 parazice wrote:
war3 = china
dota = china
sc2 =??? Warcraft 3 was not China. Grubby/Moon were the best, and they were Eu/Kor. China started to dominate once everyone else left the scene. (And korea never got behind wc3 like they did bw, so that's not a fair comparison.) These chinese players seem somewhat uninformed on how good their internet it, among other things. (MorroW is not some North American scrub, lol) You must've never heard the name Sky~~ go check wcg hall of fame. "Dominate: to tower above; overlook; overshadow: A tall pine dominated the landscape. " China had great players. Sky, infi, fly, 000. Having great players is not the same as dominating. Korea dominated brood war. No single nation dominated wc3. I never said China wasn't good. I said they didn't dominate, and this is true.
I think he took issue with what you said about China starting to dominate after everyone else left the scene, which if not carefully read could imply that Chinese WC 3 was only any good because no one else played it. Obviously, that's not true because WC 3 was the premier competitive RTS in Europe until SC 2, and Moon was the highest paid pro-gamer around 2008. I also don't think the Chinese would agree that Grubby and Moon were the best players, since their perception of the WC 3 scene is towards the later eras, when Grubby and Moon were somewhat past their prime.
WC 3 was odd, however. As the scene matured, the Chinese ended up with the best Humans. The Koreans had the best Night Elves. Orcs were fairly even all around, and Undead was broken. I don't think I've ever seen such a split in BW but then again, BW revolved around the Korean scene.
I wonder if such a thing might happen in SC 2. As of right now I don't think so, though the Chinese gravitating towards Protoss makes me think.
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On May 19 2011 03:16 Horse...falcon wrote:
Internet in China to the outside is absolutely terrible. I was there a few years back and had to load 5-10 pages at once, walk away for a coffee/bathroom break, and come back to see any Western sites.
Also, wait does he think Morrow is an American?
No they played on the American server since America is between eu and china
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On May 24 2011 14:16 Merkd wrote:
Lol, i highly doubt that his team mate is twice as good as idra...
If I had to guess, his teammate probably played twice as good as Idra did that match, as Idra didn't really play all that great.
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First game, he one-base roach all-in'd a forge expand and never broke the cannons. Second game, he ran around the map with a ball of roaches and banelings and never did any significant damage to XiaoT's army due to force fields. It wasn't exactly stellar play.
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On May 24 2011 14:08 Phanekim wrote:
has anyone considered the possibility that idra's been busy lately and probably doesn't even care about this tournament?
imho he played like complete garbage. i wonder if the lag and the lesser prestige of this tournament in his eyes played a factor.
Yes, I've also considered the possibility that Idra didn't have lunch before the game, the possibility of him being tired from the fun of the night before, and the possibility of him playing with a broken finger.
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