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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 07 2011 10:13 GMT
#21
Everyone says White-Ra is the most manner guy ever. Now I can make comedy, where by using special taktics I can make White-Ra BM and Idra be his manner coach, all in one game while watching zerg slay protoss, with BM at all the best moments.

Great tool though
Dtag
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany22 Posts
May 07 2011 10:19 GMT
#22
Blizzard needs to add digital signatures to replay files :-/ This shouldn't be possible
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
May 07 2011 10:30 GMT
#23
On May 07 2011 19:05 Artimo wrote:
I am one of the people that dislikes this idea.
I am also one of the people that dislikes downloading music, games, movies for which i didnt pay.
I am also one of the people that is against editing anything thats not my own intellectual property. (MPQ editing)

Its meant to change the truth/reality of a particular situation or is just flat out illegal.
some things are funny, but these things end up being used more for the bad then the good, whether it is easy or not shouldnt matter in the decision to do it or not.

In their 2003/2004 RTS game, there's a ton of MPQ editing tools for map making... or you lost the map and you'd need to edit a few things for the new patch... you can just extract the text file and edit the entire script from there...

downloading music/removing unnecessary data they add on? ( random DRM things even though you own it...? ( or you demux a DVD and remove 30minutes of advertisements / force it to not downsample audio????
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Noradrenaline
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia41 Posts
May 07 2011 10:40 GMT
#24
The temptation to script entire eBooks into replays is awful. Team Liquid & Friends star in The Importance of Being Earnest, a play in one unabridged act.
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dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
May 07 2011 10:40 GMT
#25
So i could change a rep to make it look like my opponent flamed me like shit to get him banned in a league/tourney? :/
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SnideLol
Profile Joined May 2011
United States9 Posts
May 07 2011 10:42 GMT
#26
I don't really mind this all too much. It could make replays seem far more professional without banter and possibly allowing teams to plant advertisements in them, making sponsors more inclined to help out. If every EG replay you downloaded said something about Steelseries blah blah, it could draw new companies to Esports.

I doubt a tool like this can really be used for trolling, as I only download replays from reputable sites, and have doubts people would be editing in the text in those replays to purposely make high level players seem bad in some light.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-07 11:17:27
May 07 2011 11:16 GMT
#27
On May 07 2011 19:40 dezi wrote:
So i could change a rep to make it look like my opponent flamed me like shit to get him banned in a league/tourney? :/


Yes.
And in the same way you can flame your opponent in a tourney (if no 3rd person is present) and edit out your flames and say he edited them in. (He may take screenshots during the game though).
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
May 07 2011 11:18 GMT
#28
Screens can also be edited, just let us hope this doesn't get abused Oo
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Kommissar
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia48 Posts
May 07 2011 11:22 GMT
#29
Despite being a caster I don't think this is a really good idea. Maybe adding in spectator chat form a caster would be appropriate but I don't think it is fair on players to create or remove what they say. What little chat exists helps us to get to know players who don't stream and false messages are just confusing. Ultimately, the only real issue will be users abusing the software.

Interesting idea though, we'll see whether or not it is over-abused. Maybe it'll all turn out roses
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tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
May 07 2011 11:25 GMT
#30
Too be fair, editing chats in replays is easy as it is. Is someone really wanted harm they'd do it even if this program didn't exist.
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LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
May 07 2011 11:51 GMT
#31
On May 07 2011 19:30 nalgene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2011 19:05 Artimo wrote:
I am one of the people that dislikes this idea.
I am also one of the people that dislikes downloading music, games, movies for which i didnt pay.
I am also one of the people that is against editing anything thats not my own intellectual property. (MPQ editing)

Its meant to change the truth/reality of a particular situation or is just flat out illegal.
some things are funny, but these things end up being used more for the bad then the good, whether it is easy or not shouldnt matter in the decision to do it or not.

In their 2003/2004 RTS game, there's a ton of MPQ editing tools for map making... or you lost the map and you'd need to edit a few things for the new patch... you can just extract the text file and edit the entire script from there...

downloading music/removing unnecessary data they add on? ( random DRM things even though you own it...? ( or you demux a DVD and remove 30minutes of advertisements / force it to not downsample audio????

Please dont get me wrong i am not condemning anyone who does it. and the 2 examples you give i can go along with since you owned the original and edit out commercials. which is not altering the movie itself.

but downloading movies for free, downloading music for free, downloading games for free, i am absolutely against.
it is my opinion that if you like something someone has made that you pay for the service or product they have provided, so that they may in the future create more that you will also like.
But i have a feeling we are now off on a separate topic not intended by the OP

again, this is just my POV.
Ascend
Profile Joined July 2010
United States120 Posts
May 07 2011 19:54 GMT
#32
On May 07 2011 19:40 dezi wrote:
So i could change a rep to make it look like my opponent flamed me like shit to get him banned in a league/tourney? :/


As was said before, you could just open the replay in notepad and change the text too. It's easier than you think.
Caster and Software Developer. Releases: "Starboard" "SC2 Replay Sync" "SC2 Replay Chat Editor" "SC2 C# Replay Parser"
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
May 07 2011 19:59 GMT
#33
I just used this program actually, works perfectly =]
HelloSon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-07 20:02:38
May 07 2011 20:01 GMT
#34
On May 07 2011 09:06 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
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Mother of god I thought. Here it comes.....


Really cool idea, however it will most likely just be used for abuse.

Are you able to change the name of the players? If so, isn't this a great tool for preventing spoilers in tournaments from people who stalk match histories of pros?
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ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-07 20:08:03
May 07 2011 20:06 GMT
#35
This is such a worthless tool and it will actually cause harm to the community. From everyone putting stupid advertisements into any replays they can get their hands on, to censorship and stupid idiots faking chat from pros.

You're destroying the legitimacy of SC2 replays.

Oh yeah and people can now flame / say racist shit / lie / spam their opponents in tournaments and there's no way to prove it for the victim since the offender can just release a replay with all of it edited out.
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Swwww
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Switzerland812 Posts
May 07 2011 20:10 GMT
#36
Very cool! :D
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zende
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden234 Posts
May 07 2011 20:11 GMT
#37
lolol love the picture of idra and cruncher. wish you were mannered idra <3333
relyt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1073 Posts
May 07 2011 20:13 GMT
#38
I hope that blizzard makes it near impossible to edit replay chat. I won't fault the guy who made this program because it it easy enough to edit the chat without it, but I will fault blizzard for allowing it to be so easy to do.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
May 07 2011 20:14 GMT
#39
Terrible idea.
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ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
May 07 2011 20:15 GMT
#40
On May 07 2011 08:54 Ascend wrote:
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On May 07 2011 08:49 Leeto wrote:
I think this is going to cause more harm than good..


I debated on whether to release it for that reason, and everyone I talked to said go for it. After all, other people can already do this, and others don't even realize how easy it actually is. It's better that people realize that replay files shouldn't be trusted, than those few trolls to quietly hold the power.



I debated on whether to release my new 9mm for that reason, and everyone I talked to said go for it. After all, other people can already do this, and others don't even realize how easy it actually is to kill someone. It's better that people realize that people shouldn't be trusted, than those few gun-owners to quietly hold the power.

See how your logic fails?
If you truly were concerned about the secret guild of replay-fakes having such a large impact you should gather some proof for such activities or release faked replays and later reveal that they were faked and anyone can do it.

I know you put a lot of work into this, but you really should take it down, the two major impacts of this tool will be:

advertisements everywhere
&&
people faking replay chat

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