[Show] Inside The Game - Official Thread - Page 242

On June 27 2012 13:03 iNcontroL wrote:
@condor hero : during the show we say as much. TB was dead on when he said people expect that from us and we aren't living up to it.. we encourage that pressure and deserve it/want it.

@TB : pretty fucking manner of you sir.. ty for that. Sorry for being a bit harsh on the show as per my usual (bad) antics.. you have impressed me and I tried to give you a lot of love on the show as well, hopefully that amounts to something.

ALL IS WELL <3

On June 27 2012 22:45 obsidia wrote:
the EG teamhouse is a running joke, its produced absolutely no tangable improvements for the players, everytime we hear incontrol before an MLG say "X is in the best shape of his life" or another comment hyping up how well the team members are playing they get completely smashed by nobodies in the open bracket.

I've long since given up ever expecting to see an EG member make a dent in the scene. The reverse is happening infact, players who join EG seem to slump and lose motivation, Puma and JYP for example. I would love to know what the hell the EG practiceschedule is like to produce such poor results, and hope they fix their shit before they destroy T-zains career

On June 27 2012 22:45 obsidia wrote:
the EG teamhouse is a running joke, its produced absolutely no tangable improvements for the players, everytime we hear incontrol before an MLG say "X is in the best shape of his life" or another comment hyping up how well the team members are playing they get completely smashed by nobodies in the open bracket.

I've long since given up ever expecting to see an EG member make a dent in the scene. The reverse is happening infact, players who join EG seem to slump and lose motivation, Puma and JYP for example. I would love to know what the hell the EG practiceschedule is like to produce such poor results, and hope they fix their shit before they destroy T-zains career

On June 27 2012 19:59 Gosi wrote:

Yes, because we are so good at football, lol. What I ment was that you have created a culture where the norm is to work hard, run lots up and down the field and get rid of the ball as quick as possible. You don't learn to hold and play the ball as a kid, you learn to put your foot through it. The more technical, ball playing players gets rated in the youth teams because they are "too small" in favour of some 16 year old ox who's only talent is being big and killings legs in the penalty area. You could see the result of this in your game against Italy. You got completely raped at the midfield, lost every ball. It's an outdated playing style and it has no chance against the style Central Europe, South Europe and South America is playing today.

Germany had the same problem at the end of the 90's, early 2000. They did an inspection on their youth training and fix'd the flaws. See where they are today. It's time for England to do the same.

On June 27 2012 23:45 johnny123 wrote:
Demuslim on the other hand has the talent of an extreme top player but seems to be this case of "GET REALLY GOOD, THEN BIG DISTRACTION COMES ALONG AND FALLS OFF", as soon as abby came into the scene, back down the Average pro-gamer ladder he went, he comes from beating nestea and having really good tournament runs to just poor performances.

On June 27 2012 23:45 johnny123 wrote:
I think the reason why some of the EG members dont give their best foot forward in terms of practicing is because they are the highest paid out there, . Thats why I worry if stephano joins EG, he will practice even less because he would already be making the big bucks with EG which is all he wants. The money, if he is getting the big bucks there will be less incentive to practice. The same can be said for some of there other members.. Machine clearly does not have what it takes to compete at the top, Incontrol seems to want to compete , but his gameplay is not coming together to allow him to consistently beat good players so just like machine, it does not matter how much they practice, they lack the talent of an extreme top player.

Demuslim on the other hand has the talent of an extreme top player but seems to be this case of "GET REALLY GOOD, THEN BIG DISTRACTION COMES ALONG AND FALLS OFF", as soon as abby came into the scene, back down the Average pro-gamer ladder he went, he comes from beating nestea and having really good tournament runs to just poor performances.

Jyp seems to be focusing more on school this time around, so his results will lessen(not that he ever had that good of results), and lets be honest here, his matchup against terran has been so bad that he not even a top korean in my eyes, For instance i dont see him ever staying in Code S for more than 1 season. Puma on the other hand remains their best /most hard working player.. And well thorzain is thorzain. This is how he has always been .. Produces average results most of the time, with a 1 or 2 good tournament runs per year to keep him in the spotlight. Overall good player.

And for idra, clearly the money is good enough for him, cause if you leave games early without having clearly lost, it means there is nothing on the line he seems worth it to stay fighting for. If you removed that money and he got into a mindset where every win actually matters for his career, you would see a new and improved idra , but till then he has fallen off and i dont ever expect to see him near the top again.


Total biscuit is right about EG. The only guys with results there are the people that don't practice in the LAIR. Its just sad that when TB calls it out for the truth that it is, a frat house.. He gets bashed, which is to be expected. Americans will defend there believes to the bitter end . Its the reason they are still in Afghanistan. The europeans are more hardworking in general, thats why the show better results, but the koreans work the hardest, so they show the best results. Incontrol talks about not having access to the best ladder server, best practice environment etc, which all kinda just makes me chuckle, because hes making it seem as if the koreans rubbed a lamp and the best practice conditions appeared out of the blues for them. Which is bullshit. They have the best conditions because they take the game seriously. None of these koreans get salarys, wages.. Nothing. Yet they have the best ladder. Only within the last 2 months when LG picked up IM did a korean team finally get a salary. Up to now none of the other korean teams pay salaries.. They have the best conditions because they practice the hardest. Not because a Lamp was rubbed.

Tb was trying to say, since EG is at the top of "can pay the most amount of money to its players". They should lead an example to the rest of the teams on what it takes to get good results. Currently we dont see it as a community. Most of us just see fancy pool,frat house,players doing talk shows 24/7 ,adds and streaming.

On June 28 2012 00:01 Hardigan wrote:

first i wanted to comment how you actually don't know how thinks work in the lair, what the people think there (seriously, you know how exactly they feel with their money), that they said they practise a lot in there and correct your comments about Demuslim and more. But then i read the part about the Americans and am sure now, that you are just trolling/baiting

On June 28 2012 00:19 johnny123 wrote:



If i was in EG, i'd hope that the reasons I was giving for their poor results from the non korean EG members were true.

If it is that they are indeed practicing as hard as the koreans and yet still not showing results. Would'nt you say its time for a roster change? ( again I refer to the Non korean Eg members only, the koreans of EG are the guys with the results, Thorzains win at dream hack does not count because he was still at Mouz at the time, dont try to claim that one eg lol)

No, we know this is all bullshit, They are not practicing as hard as the koreans, so what totalbusicuit has said is all very true . We can deny it with usual PR responses like " You dont actually know what you are talking about", and "you dont know how we practice in the LAIR". The usual stuff i expect to hear. Please elighten me to your practice schedule then . I bet even if its broken down and stated word for word, it still wont compare to 15 hour practice sessions the koreans do. And again TB will still stand correct.

On June 27 2012 11:11 mojoface wrote:
Wheat falling for that screamer gif

On June 27 2012 23:45 johnny123 wrote:
Demuslim on the other hand has the talent of an extreme top player but seems to be this case of "GET REALLY GOOD, THEN BIG DISTRACTION COMES ALONG AND FALLS OFF", as soon as abby came into the scene, back down the Average pro-gamer ladder he went, he comes from beating nestea and having really good tournament runs to just poor performances.

On June 28 2012 00:44 Hardigan wrote:
first, EG is a very successful Team, not just because of their results, but because of their PR, respecting the sponsors and their personalities. There goes a lot more into a player than just his results. If only results would count a lot of teams would have to drop most of their players (for example Quantic, with something like 19 players)

On June 28 2012 02:07 Plansix wrote:


First off, you are wrong. Demuslim had done very well this year, taking games off top Koreans, being top of his group in NASL and preforming better than most NA players. Also, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but there are professional athletes in this world who live with their girlfriends and wives. These same athletes win things like the Super Bowl and World Series.

I am not sure where people get the idea that most pro-gamers must be celibate monks who only focus on SC2. But the arguing that relationships are a distraction from practice or a professional career just feeds into the "basement gamer" stereotype.

On June 28 2012 02:21 mememolly wrote:


pro athletes don't have their wife or GF around them at the training ground though

and to those saying that EG is good from a marketing perspective? really? look at the mainstream sports, all the big sponsors use their top dogs in their marketing campaigns, you don't see random dudes who fall out of the first round at wimbledon in Nike adverts do you?

On June 28 2012 02:21 mememolly wrote:


pro athletes don't have their wife or GF around them at the training ground though

and to those saying that EG is good from a marketing perspective? really? look at the mainstream sports, all the big sponsors use their top dogs in their marketing campaigns, you don't see random dudes who fall out of the first round at wimbledon in Nike adverts do you?