EPTOn April 24 2011 10:56 uSnAmplified wrote:
Nestea and fruitdealer interviews are always so...depressing lol.
Nestea and fruitdealer interviews are always so...depressing lol.
especially as a zerg player. wah.
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crms
United States11933 Posts
especially as a zerg player. wah. | ||
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
And then this happened. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On April 24 2011 10:11 infinity2k9 wrote: Jaedong has never said anything like that... even when the interviewer prompts a question like that about a certain map he says it doesn't matter. Taking from a winners interview when he beat Flash in 2010 MSL "- The maps were very disadvantageous There was a lot of concern from those around me. It was very stressful and difficult, and in practice I was often discouraged and frustrated. I told everyone I was confident and that map imbalance could be overcome but the stress from practice was very severe. There was the added anxiety of delivering my promises. I practice hard with the mindset to just win one set. " He's an optimistic guy for sure. I read through a lot of interviews, and whenever it's brought up he says something like "Yea these maps are bad, but player skill matters most". He doesn't ignore the imbalance, he just tries his best to fight his way through it which is fucking awesome. edit: here's an example of what I said above and why I love him "- In the ro16, you play against the second seed of group H. Who do you want to play against? ▲ From my practice I can tell you that the maps are definintely not good for zerg (laughs). From that perspective I'm glad I got to the ro16. The further I get I will be playing against tougher opponents, but I want to be win no matter who, no matter the map. That's why I don't have a player I would rather play against, and I want to show that I can win even on maps that do not favor Zerg." | ||
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
On April 24 2011 11:38 ItsMeDomLee wrote: This reminds me of the time in season 1 where every Zerg felt it was impossible to win. And then this happened. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrfzEO2yTe0 Yeah, zergs should 6pool, nydus all in and roach all in more. Come on, apart from idra, tester, fruitdealer and TLO no one was even good in S1 (most koreans hadn't even played beta). Fruitdealer all in'd on Lost temple vs Terran and Kulas ravine a LOT too.. i think he went all in almost every single game on kulas unless he was forced to do otherwise (Like TOP using banshees then massing thor ) | ||
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
On April 24 2011 11:40 Maliris wrote: Yeah, zergs should 6pool, nydus all in and roach all in more. Come on, apart from idra, tester, fruitdealer and TLO no one was even good in S1 (most koreans hadn't even played beta). Fruitdealer all in'd on Lost temple vs Terran and Kulas ravine a LOT too.. i think he went all in almost every single game on kulas unless he was forced to do otherwise (Like TOP using banshees then massing thor ) And if we discounted all-ins the third open season of GSL wouldn't even exist. | ||
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biskit
Australia355 Posts
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Ksi
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On April 24 2011 10:41 infinity2k9 wrote: People always say this but it's fucking stupid and annoying, you CANNOT compare any aspect of the game to BW at the time. Back then people sucked, all the way up to the top level. Pro's were 100 APM. People literally didn't even have the mechanics to execute strategies that are vital to the balance, things like defilers were not even standard for many years. That's no longer the case, players have come into SC2 WITH 11 years of BW experience to back it up it's not a whole new game it's a sequel. No strategy is out of reach. Not to mention people didn't even have replays back then, while today strategies spread within days. There's so many people immediately playing competitively that literally every possibility is being tested; innovation is already being limited to very slight changes to build orders. People were not doing this kind of serious refining and tweaking builds for ages in BW. Plus even after all of this, BW isn't balanced. It's T > Z > P > T, from overall winrates and just what we generally know (a good way to see this is the lack of specialists for certain matchups in the proscene; you got dozens of zergs who are best at zvp, but extremely rare theres a zvt'er) but it's accepted as good enough because you can overcome balance with skill. Not to mention balance at lower levels, in the foreigner scene there was always more Z and P than T. And down at D levels P is certainly easier than T. So aiming for BW balance is not the goal at all. And just to add, Broodwar benefits a lot more from 3 things: the units reward good micro more, the macro is tougher, and the meta-game is much more stable. It gives more opportunities for a player who is truly playing better than his opponent to gain an edge and win. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
but nestea vs fd in the ro.16 makes me cry | ||
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
On April 24 2011 12:05 1Eris1 wrote: this is FD's season. i hope. but nestea vs fd in the ro.16 makes me cry This gaurantees a good zerg in the top 8  | ||
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Xkalibert
United States1404 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
Killer has bad hair though He should really stop dying it. | ||
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dusthoof
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On April 24 2011 09:12 ReketSomething wrote: Reading nesteas interview made me upset. What a pansy. I never liked nestea or people that complain like Bisu and Nestea is no difference. True champs are like jaedong. You dont complain about random bullshit but fight to overcome. Saying theres not much left he can do is retarded. Theres always more to do, especially as zerg, the race that you could probably have 1000 apm and not run out of things to do because of the mechanics. tons of words, but i can't find any intelligence in it. | ||
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dusthoof
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On April 24 2011 11:02 Dommk wrote: So...can anyone give me an example of a map that evens out PvZ? Xelnaga fortress lol | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On April 24 2011 22:05 dusthoof wrote: tons of words, but i can't find any intelligence in it. Haha man, you deserve a medal for that  Nestea and FD feeling down. FD not sleeping before his matches... well, I m sure they will still do something, and we have Losira. | ||
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ALPINA
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On April 24 2011 11:02 Dommk wrote: So...can anyone give me an example of a map that evens out PvZ? Good question. But really not something like tal darim where 3rd expansion is with rocks. I mean toss get's his FE earlier than you and you still can't get a 3rd because of awesome rocks. | ||
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
On April 24 2011 10:04 windsupernova wrote: Well, to be fair the BW pros can hardly expect a balance patch from Blizzard :\ I don't like that Pros complain about balance because it leads to a lot of whiners feeling validated. But yeah, who am I to talk? Still, I think Blizzard needs to let things settle more before patching In professional sports leagues (take the NFL for example), after each season a committee sits down and addresses the rules in place; to see if anything needs tweaking to improve gameplay quality. I'm not suggesting Blizzard should be patching each SC season, or that they should be patching based on the complaints of anyone (even pros, you will never find a point where nobody complains), but to expect the pro players not to voice their concerns is a bit ludicrous. As spectators we complain a shit ton, imagine what it's like for the pros who not only play (what some feel) is an unbalanced game, but also their skill level is judged (by us) based on their performance. | ||
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