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A.J.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States209 Posts
May 22 2011 21:35 GMT
#541
On May 23 2011 06:19 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 06:16 The KY wrote:
Well it's not even confirmed that we'll be getting updated multiplayer is it? We're just assuming because that's how BW worked.

I remember reading somewhere a long way back that WoL, HotS and LotV will all have different multiplayer ladders, so it's safe to assume that the multiplayer will have more content.

So would that mean that people on HotS would be generally better than people on WoL??

They'd probably be more hardcore since they paid the extra $40-$60 for an expansion.
Take a chance
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
May 22 2011 21:40 GMT
#542
On May 23 2011 06:35 A.J. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 06:19 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:16 The KY wrote:
Well it's not even confirmed that we'll be getting updated multiplayer is it? We're just assuming because that's how BW worked.

I remember reading somewhere a long way back that WoL, HotS and LotV will all have different multiplayer ladders, so it's safe to assume that the multiplayer will have more content.

So would that mean that people on HotS would be generally better than people on WoL??

They'd probably be more hardcore since they paid the extra $40-$60 for an expansion.

money != skill, but I would argue that the people who hop on the SC2 bandwagon later in will purchase HotS rather than WoL, for the most updated multiplayer, so if anything the players will be worse.
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Heraklitus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States553 Posts
May 22 2011 21:45 GMT
#543
It must be tricky balancing WoL right now, knowing full well that they will have the freedom to introduce new units with HoS. One can imagine that they have ideas to change fundamental dynamics that they don't like right now, but in the mean time they make smaller changes as band-aids.

I wouldn't be surprised to see various reversions to older versions of units in order to balance in light of new units. For example, maybe because of some new unit they add to zerg, it suddenly makes sense to add KA back to high templars. I don't actually think there is any reason to think that particular example will happen, but the balancing act must be hard to do with both of these versions at once.
gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
May 22 2011 21:55 GMT
#544
Stop the speculations about the most absurd things, please. Just wait out the month
Not even death can save you from me.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
May 22 2011 21:58 GMT
#545
I wonder if we will see a sudden influx of Zerg players when this is out, But if I recall correctly didn't Blizzard hint a while back towards not adding any new units?
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Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 22 2011 22:10 GMT
#546
On May 23 2011 06:58 Firesilver wrote:
I wonder if we will see a sudden influx of Zerg players when this is out, But if I recall correctly didn't Blizzard hint a while back towards not adding any new units?

They said it was possible. Perhaps they'd prefer to overhaul all the underused stuff instead of adding more and relegating those units to BW-scout status.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
May 22 2011 22:12 GMT
#547
On May 23 2011 07:10 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 06:58 Firesilver wrote:
I wonder if we will see a sudden influx of Zerg players when this is out, But if I recall correctly didn't Blizzard hint a while back towards not adding any new units?

They said it was possible. Perhaps they'd prefer to overhaul all the underused stuff instead of adding more and relegating those units to BW-scout status.


Yeah; probably a better solution to adding more units and making balance even harder. Still looking forward to the campaign however, but I'm still kind of on the fence about separate ladders.
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MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
May 22 2011 22:16 GMT
#548
On May 23 2011 07:10 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 06:58 Firesilver wrote:
I wonder if we will see a sudden influx of Zerg players when this is out, But if I recall correctly didn't Blizzard hint a while back towards not adding any new units?

They said it was possible. Perhaps they'd prefer to overhaul all the underused stuff instead of adding more and relegating those units to BW-scout status.

I think they'll probably focus more on upgrades and abilities for existing units rather than new units, but I do expect to see one or two per race most likely.
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6290 Posts
May 22 2011 22:20 GMT
#549
On May 23 2011 07:16 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 07:10 Yaotzin wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:58 Firesilver wrote:
I wonder if we will see a sudden influx of Zerg players when this is out, But if I recall correctly didn't Blizzard hint a while back towards not adding any new units?

They said it was possible. Perhaps they'd prefer to overhaul all the underused stuff instead of adding more and relegating those units to BW-scout status.

I think they'll probably focus more on upgrades and abilities for existing units rather than new units, but I do expect to see one or two per race most likely.


They always add new units with expansions ( bw, tft ) and it improved the game both those times so I don't see why they wouldn't do it now but who knows ^^.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
May 22 2011 22:22 GMT
#550
On May 23 2011 06:58 Firesilver wrote:
I wonder if we will see a sudden influx of Zerg players when this is out, But if I recall correctly didn't Blizzard hint a while back towards not adding any new units?


IIRC they only said they wont add units for the sake of adding new units.
If they can find good uses for new units which make the game more interesting or "better" they will add them.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
May 22 2011 22:29 GMT
#551
I wonder If I want to make a korean account or a spoof account when HOTS/LOTV comes out, am I going to need to buy all of the previous keys as well, or just the most updated version..
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
May 22 2011 22:34 GMT
#552
On May 23 2011 06:40 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 06:35 A.J. wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:19 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:16 The KY wrote:
Well it's not even confirmed that we'll be getting updated multiplayer is it? We're just assuming because that's how BW worked.

I remember reading somewhere a long way back that WoL, HotS and LotV will all have different multiplayer ladders, so it's safe to assume that the multiplayer will have more content.

So would that mean that people on HotS would be generally better than people on WoL??

They'd probably be more hardcore since they paid the extra $40-$60 for an expansion.

money != skill, but I would argue that the people who hop on the SC2 bandwagon later in will purchase HotS rather than WoL, for the most updated multiplayer, so if anything the players will be worse.


Anyone who picks up SC2 after the expo will have to buy both if they want to play HotS, so they will have laid out the same amount, more or less as we have. Afterall, it would be like playing WoW without the 3 expansions.... pointless.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Michaels
Profile Joined August 2010
419 Posts
May 22 2011 22:45 GMT
#553
On May 23 2011 07:34 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 06:40 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:35 A.J. wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:19 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:16 The KY wrote:
Well it's not even confirmed that we'll be getting updated multiplayer is it? We're just assuming because that's how BW worked.

I remember reading somewhere a long way back that WoL, HotS and LotV will all have different multiplayer ladders, so it's safe to assume that the multiplayer will have more content.

So would that mean that people on HotS would be generally better than people on WoL??

They'd probably be more hardcore since they paid the extra $40-$60 for an expansion.

money != skill, but I would argue that the people who hop on the SC2 bandwagon later in will purchase HotS rather than WoL, for the most updated multiplayer, so if anything the players will be worse.


Anyone who picks up SC2 after the expo will have to buy both if they want to play HotS, so they will have laid out the same amount, more or less as we have. Afterall, it would be like playing WoW without the 3 expansions.... pointless.


It will be as it is always. Stand alone WoL, HOTS or WoL+HOTS edition for special price (definetely not for 120euro)
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
May 22 2011 22:53 GMT
#554
On May 23 2011 07:34 emythrel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 06:40 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:35 A.J. wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:19 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:16 The KY wrote:
Well it's not even confirmed that we'll be getting updated multiplayer is it? We're just assuming because that's how BW worked.

I remember reading somewhere a long way back that WoL, HotS and LotV will all have different multiplayer ladders, so it's safe to assume that the multiplayer will have more content.

So would that mean that people on HotS would be generally better than people on WoL??

They'd probably be more hardcore since they paid the extra $40-$60 for an expansion.

money != skill, but I would argue that the people who hop on the SC2 bandwagon later in will purchase HotS rather than WoL, for the most updated multiplayer, so if anything the players will be worse.


Anyone who picks up SC2 after the expo will have to buy both if they want to play HotS, so they will have laid out the same amount, more or less as we have. Afterall, it would be like playing WoW without the 3 expansions.... pointless.

but I'm not sure that that's going to be the case... I'm almost certain that blizzard said you can buy and play HotS separate from WoL.
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Sueco
Profile Joined September 2009
Sweden283 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 11:11:23
May 23 2011 11:03 GMT
#555
My HotS predictions:

There will be more exquisitely crafted campaign cutscenes hampered by a cheesily written storyline about redemption and an ominous dark figure with glowing red eyes. The Dark Voice is revealed to be Kil'Jaeden. All hands brace for incoming IP merger!

As time runs on and art assets are spent on campaign, MP unit design falls behind schedule. The lurker is cut at the last second as balancing needs to be simplified to fit the announced launch date, and it's art assets are saved for the next installment. The last race to be introduced has a dysfunctional basic lineup that ends up making it into retail as beta comes along and solidifies the tech tree.

The battle.net design team creates a slick interface with lots of portraits and achievements. They make no attempt to add the basic online community features that existed in previous Blizzard RTS games. The game is forced to launch with features like chat channels, tournament compatibility and clan interface as something "we want to do soon".


O wait that was WoL.


Lets hope they get it right this time.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6290 Posts
May 23 2011 11:07 GMT
#556
On May 23 2011 07:53 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 07:34 emythrel wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:40 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:35 A.J. wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:19 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On May 23 2011 06:16 The KY wrote:
Well it's not even confirmed that we'll be getting updated multiplayer is it? We're just assuming because that's how BW worked.

I remember reading somewhere a long way back that WoL, HotS and LotV will all have different multiplayer ladders, so it's safe to assume that the multiplayer will have more content.

So would that mean that people on HotS would be generally better than people on WoL??

They'd probably be more hardcore since they paid the extra $40-$60 for an expansion.

money != skill, but I would argue that the people who hop on the SC2 bandwagon later in will purchase HotS rather than WoL, for the most updated multiplayer, so if anything the players will be worse.


Anyone who picks up SC2 after the expo will have to buy both if they want to play HotS, so they will have laid out the same amount, more or less as we have. Afterall, it would be like playing WoW without the 3 expansions.... pointless.

but I'm not sure that that's going to be the case... I'm almost certain that blizzard said you can buy and play HotS separate from WoL.


Link? Because I have a hard time believing that they're still a company that wants to make money after all.

And from all their games the expo required the original game so I have a hard time believing that will change.
safjx
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom51 Posts
May 23 2011 11:07 GMT
#557
I realize that all the excitement here is about the MP aspects of HotS, however, the preview is about the single-player only. They will not be revealing details of the multiplayer mechanics.

I am also quite certain that you will have to buy both WoL and HotS to play MP of HotS, otherwise it makes no sense that it will be priced as an expansion pack. And it being an "expansion pack" has been repeated many times.
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
May 23 2011 11:11 GMT
#558
They are inviting game journalists for the single player reveal this week. I doubt they have invited Sen and co for single player stuff though. Question is how long their NDA will last, I know that gaming sites will be posting about the single player next week. Might be weeks before Sen and the other pros can talk about multiplayer.
tooPrime
Profile Joined March 2011
United States245 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 11:16:16
May 23 2011 11:15 GMT
#559
On May 23 2011 20:07 safjx wrote:
I realize that all the excitement here is about the MP aspects of HotS, however, the preview is about the single-player only. They will not be revealing details of the multiplayer mechanics.

I am also quite certain that you will have to buy both WoL and HotS to play MP of HotS, otherwise it makes no sense that it will be priced as an expansion pack. And it being an "expansion pack" has been repeated many times.


Shhh! Stop derailing the rampant speculation with "reality".

Edit: The rest of this post was about when this is happening, but the person before me adequately answered that question.
Namakaye
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia114 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 11:35:49
May 23 2011 11:17 GMT
#560
On April 22 2011 11:10 DirtYLOu wrote:
RPG LIKE? WHAT IS THIS!?!?!

This should be STARCARFT , not WARCRAFT -.-

wow blizzard really is going big for money there... and dont care about Starcraft Fans.




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