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Dawski
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada435 Posts
April 16 2011 17:53 GMT
#21
On April 17 2011 02:46 Turgid wrote:
A swarm of things with carapaces, hmm....


...i dont understand why everyone thinks they are supposed to be insects. Think of alien vs predator ,the aliens arnt insects they are xenomorphs. In fact thats a very good example.

and swarm just means a lot of shit, you can have a swarm of humans too
do you REALLY want additional pylons?
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 17:58:58
April 16 2011 17:56 GMT
#22
They aren't insects. They do have a Hivemind though, so obviously they're going to be insectlike in terms of that. They have Queens and Hives and such.

On April 17 2011 02:25 Jameser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:23 Yaotzin wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:17 akaname wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:14 Dawski wrote:
what really annoys me is how blizzard is pushing the zerg to sound like a big group of insects.

as long as they don't turn out to be 'misunderstood'/'manipulated', like orcs in Warcraft. it's scary that it seems to be going in that direction... they MUST stay evil.

The Zerg aren't evil, they're just beasts controlled by the Overmind/Kerrigan. Always have been.

agreed, the zerg have no motive, they are commanded and they follow

obviously their leaders (overmind, kerrigan) need to have motive for what they do and personally I don't think it's very interesting to have their motive be "LOLOLO KILL SHIT KK?"

on the other hand the motives should primarily be for the survival of the species or selfish to kerrigan/cerebrate etc.


The Overmind's motive was to assimilate the entire universe into the blissful harmony of the swarm.

The Overmind is the ultimate good guy of the series. We should all bow to the swarm!

I have no idea what Kerrigan's motive is supposed to be though. But I guess that's the whole mystery that they didn't really play with unfortunately.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
April 16 2011 17:59 GMT
#23
It's possible the planet may make a showing in HotS but my gut feeling says it won't be. Who knows anything is possible I suppose. I think it'd be a neat thing to do but perhaps they have something more entertaining in mind then a flashback mission I hope.

Also Zerg are bug like. Deal with it. Heavily mutated and evolved bug things. Whatever the species started off as when it was consumed by the Swarm it's more or less a genetic freakshow at this point and they look like bugs to me sirs.
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MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
April 16 2011 18:02 GMT
#24
What would be really cool in HotS is if you could choose whether to use the Zerg for good or for evil ^^

However, I doubt that will happen
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neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 18:13:14
April 16 2011 18:04 GMT
#25
On April 17 2011 02:53 Dawski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:46 Turgid wrote:
A swarm of things with carapaces, hmm....


...i dont understand why everyone thinks they are supposed to be insects. Think of alien vs predator ,the aliens arnt insects they are xenomorphs. In fact thats a very good example.

and swarm just means a lot of shit, you can have a swarm of humans too


I've always thought this whole starcraft thing was suppposed to be either homage or just plain old ripping from AvP
Aliens=zerg trying to assimilate/kill everything. The xenomorphs took on attributes from whatever being they were birthed from and were the ultimate killing machines. Zerg assimilate and evolve only the strongest species to become ultimate killing machines.

Predator=Protoss High tech weaponry, extreme honor in cases of warfare.

Human=terran The stupid race that tries to find a way to take over the alien/zerg to use them as a bio-weapon(see SC1 campain and Aliens movie) and end up getting killed.

EDIT: On topic though--I think the campaign will take you there and have it like "Kerrigan must go to the homeland to get in touch with the emotional/psychic home of the zerg" which is completely stupid. But in my head I agree with the others that the zerg appear to have finished with that planet. The current zerg homeworld is either Char or Aiur.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4268 Posts
April 16 2011 18:08 GMT
#26
On April 17 2011 03:04 neo_sporin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:53 Dawski wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:46 Turgid wrote:
A swarm of things with carapaces, hmm....


...i dont understand why everyone thinks they are supposed to be insects. Think of alien vs predator ,the aliens arnt insects they are xenomorphs. In fact thats a very good example.

and swarm just means a lot of shit, you can have a swarm of humans too


I've always thought this whole starcraft thing was suppposed to be either homage or just plain old ripping from AvP
Aliens=zerg trying to assimilate/kill everything. The xenomorphs took on attributes from whatever being they were birthed from and were the ultimate killing machines. Zerg assimilate and evolve only the strongest species to become ultimate killing machines.

Predator=Protoss High tech weaponry, extreme honor in cases of warfare.

Human=terran The stupid race that tries to find a way to take over the alien/zerg to use them as a bio-weapon(see SC1 campain and Aliens movie) and end up getting killed.




Thats kind of true, just the wrong franchise. Please dont open the box....things will get nasty and the point of the thread will be lost *-)

Im not sure if we will play there...maybe a flashback? Other than that I dont believe the planet will be visited, theres nothing new there. Other thing...Kerrigans objective was to be the Queen b*tch of the universe...so her porpuse was to kill everyone who doesnt follow her. Its the regular bad guy motive: I want to rule the UNIVERSE!!!


Btw shouldnt this be in the SP section?
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Negative Zero
Profile Joined January 2011
United States63 Posts
April 16 2011 18:41 GMT
#27
Yeah, the zerg aren't evil on their own, because they lack the capacity to understand that what they are doing is evil.

They're Chaotic Hungry.
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
April 16 2011 18:51 GMT
#28
i heard the expansions are solely for campaign? if so, with no new units, i doubt ill be picking up any new expansion
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sh4w
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States713 Posts
April 16 2011 18:56 GMT
#29
Was that "leaked ending" proven to be real? It looks much more like an alternate ending to WOL.
I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet style.
wolfe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States761 Posts
April 16 2011 18:59 GMT
#30
On April 17 2011 03:51 BlackGosu wrote:
i heard the expansions are solely for campaign? if so, with no new units, i doubt ill be picking up any new expansion


Where are you getting this blatantly false info from? The new expansions will have new units and also new ladders.
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Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
April 16 2011 19:06 GMT
#31
On April 17 2011 02:17 akaname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:14 Dawski wrote:
what really annoys me is how blizzard is pushing the zerg to sound like a big group of insects.

as long as they don't turn out to be 'misunderstood'/'manipulated', like orcs in Warcraft. it's scary that it seems to be going in that direction... they MUST stay evil.

I'm not sure where you got that they ever were evil I've never thought of them as evil! I've always thought of them like the Buggers in Ender's Game
akaname
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom599 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 19:09:29
April 16 2011 19:08 GMT
#32
On April 17 2011 02:56 DoubleReed wrote:
They aren't insects. They do have a Hivemind though, so obviously they're going to be insectlike in terms of that. They have Queens and Hives and such.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:25 Jameser wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:23 Yaotzin wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:17 akaname wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:14 Dawski wrote:
what really annoys me is how blizzard is pushing the zerg to sound like a big group of insects.

as long as they don't turn out to be 'misunderstood'/'manipulated', like orcs in Warcraft. it's scary that it seems to be going in that direction... they MUST stay evil.

The Zerg aren't evil, they're just beasts controlled by the Overmind/Kerrigan. Always have been.

agreed, the zerg have no motive, they are commanded and they follow

obviously their leaders (overmind, kerrigan) need to have motive for what they do and personally I don't think it's very interesting to have their motive be "LOLOLO KILL SHIT KK?"

on the other hand the motives should primarily be for the survival of the species or selfish to kerrigan/cerebrate etc.


The Overmind's motive was to assimilate the entire universe into the blissful harmony of the swarm.

The Overmind is the ultimate good guy of the series. We should all bow to the swarm!

I have no idea what Kerrigan's motive is supposed to be though. But I guess that's the whole mystery that they didn't really play with unfortunately.


haha good point!

ok, what i said was clearly an oversimplification. Without getting into a discussion of 'what is evil', i guess what i would hate is if the zerg 'team up' with protoss and terran to fight the xel'naga.

i've seen the leaked ending but blocked it out, i hope it's not for real!

more On Topic, i think the idea is the zerg behave like insects, not appear like them. (what a humourless response from me!)
There can be only none
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
April 16 2011 19:10 GMT
#33
Back in my day, the Zerg killed shit to become the perfect species and that was that. None of this "good or evil" bullshit.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Meldrath
Profile Joined June 2010
United States620 Posts
April 16 2011 19:10 GMT
#34
I hope we get to destroy the planet.. cleanse it of all the vile zerg.. and kill them so hard they are unabled to be selected in multiplayer lol
slap me I must be dreaming another "imba" arugment! fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!
Hobokinz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States126 Posts
April 16 2011 19:14 GMT
#35
On April 17 2011 04:10 Meldrath wrote:
I hope we get to destroy the planet.. cleanse it of all the vile zerg.. and kill them so hard they are unabled to be selected in multiplayer lol

I'd laugh in HoTS if after you beat the story and go to the multiplayer screen the Zerg selection was grayed out. Blizzard would be like, Hey no new units in Legacy of the Void but were gunna re-add zerg!
Jameser
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 19:45:18
April 16 2011 19:43 GMT
#36
On April 17 2011 02:56 DoubleReed wrote:
They aren't insects. They do have a Hivemind though, so obviously they're going to be insectlike in terms of that. They have Queens and Hives and such.

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:25 Jameser wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:23 Yaotzin wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:17 akaname wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:14 Dawski wrote:
what really annoys me is how blizzard is pushing the zerg to sound like a big group of insects.

as long as they don't turn out to be 'misunderstood'/'manipulated', like orcs in Warcraft. it's scary that it seems to be going in that direction... they MUST stay evil.

The Zerg aren't evil, they're just beasts controlled by the Overmind/Kerrigan. Always have been.

agreed, the zerg have no motive, they are commanded and they follow

obviously their leaders (overmind, kerrigan) need to have motive for what they do and personally I don't think it's very interesting to have their motive be "LOLOLO KILL SHIT KK?"

on the other hand the motives should primarily be for the survival of the species or selfish to kerrigan/cerebrate etc.


The Overmind's motive was to assimilate the entire universe into the blissful harmony of the swarm.

The Overmind is the ultimate good guy of the series. We should all bow to the swarm!

I have no idea what Kerrigan's motive is supposed to be though. But I guess that's the whole mystery that they didn't really play with unfortunately.


kerrigan's motive was to get back at the assholes who left her to die :-(

and this is what I mean; the zerg should definetly be the "enemy" but the motives of their leader should always be grounded in something other than just killing shit
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
April 16 2011 19:47 GMT
#37
Char is where the Overmind was birthed so it was more like the "main" planet

No, it's not. It's only a base, but zergs had conquered other planets, before they're reached CHar

Zergs - I mean overmind
Grease
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States138 Posts
April 16 2011 20:10 GMT
#38
On April 17 2011 02:30 Dawski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:21 BoxedLunch wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:14 Dawski wrote:
what really annoys me is how blizzard is pushing the zerg to sound like a big group of insects. Other then larva they are not insects in any way shape or form. A zergling is like a dog with huge claws coming out of its shoulders, a hydra was like some plant eating mammal, a mutalisk was way more bat-like than insect-like (bats are considered rodents right?), Same with the old queen it was like an elephant/bat mix, ill give them the defiler but it would be odd not to include 1 insectoid type creature in an assimilation race

-as for your question haha, i diont see any need to go back to zerus the campaign is just about kerrigan getting her powers of the zerg


banelings are roly polys
roaches are... well roaches
infestor looks like a beetle
drones also look like little insects


which are all sc2 units except for drones which i forgot about....and it makes sense for drones to be insect like because of an insects unusual trait to be able to carry things heavier than their body weight thus the assimilation process. My point is in sc1 they were all different types of animals with really thick/hard skin



ummm ants carry things 50times as much as they way.. So the drones are essentially "worker bees/ants"
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DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-16 20:18:53
April 16 2011 20:18 GMT
#39
On April 17 2011 04:08 akaname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:56 DoubleReed wrote:
They aren't insects. They do have a Hivemind though, so obviously they're going to be insectlike in terms of that. They have Queens and Hives and such.

On April 17 2011 02:25 Jameser wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:23 Yaotzin wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:17 akaname wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:14 Dawski wrote:
what really annoys me is how blizzard is pushing the zerg to sound like a big group of insects.

as long as they don't turn out to be 'misunderstood'/'manipulated', like orcs in Warcraft. it's scary that it seems to be going in that direction... they MUST stay evil.

The Zerg aren't evil, they're just beasts controlled by the Overmind/Kerrigan. Always have been.

agreed, the zerg have no motive, they are commanded and they follow

obviously their leaders (overmind, kerrigan) need to have motive for what they do and personally I don't think it's very interesting to have their motive be "LOLOLO KILL SHIT KK?"

on the other hand the motives should primarily be for the survival of the species or selfish to kerrigan/cerebrate etc.


The Overmind's motive was to assimilate the entire universe into the blissful harmony of the swarm.

The Overmind is the ultimate good guy of the series. We should all bow to the swarm!

I have no idea what Kerrigan's motive is supposed to be though. But I guess that's the whole mystery that they didn't really play with unfortunately.


haha good point!

ok, what i said was clearly an oversimplification. Without getting into a discussion of 'what is evil', i guess what i would hate is if the zerg 'team up' with protoss and terran to fight the xel'naga.

i've seen the leaked ending but blocked it out, i hope it's not for real!

more On Topic, i think the idea is the zerg behave like insects, not appear like them. (what a humourless response from me!)


I think it's pretty obvious that this is leading up to a big team up to beat the xel-naga. But I don't know, if they pull it off properly it could still be pretty awesome. It doesn't mean everyone loves each other with a wonderful happy ending. Blizzard is usually pretty good at introducing extra factions that mix things up.
NoisyNinja
Profile Joined February 2011
United States991 Posts
April 16 2011 20:49 GMT
#40
On April 17 2011 02:21 BoxedLunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:14 Dawski wrote:
what really annoys me is how blizzard is pushing the zerg to sound like a big group of insects. Other then larva they are not insects in any way shape or form. A zergling is like a dog with huge claws coming out of its shoulders, a hydra was like some plant eating mammal, a mutalisk was way more bat-like than insect-like (bats are considered rodents right?), Same with the old queen it was like an elephant/bat mix, ill give them the defiler but it would be odd not to include 1 insectoid type creature in an assimilation race

-as for your question haha, i diont see any need to go back to zerus the campaign is just about kerrigan getting her powers of the zerg


banelings are roly polys
roaches are... well roaches
infestor looks like a beetle
drones also look like little insects


Infestors look like overgrown slugs.
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