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Mondragon's secret TSL Training vs. Protoss - Page 3

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EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
April 15 2011 06:03 GMT
#41
Mondragon fighting!
Dear Sixsmith...
MadJack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Peru357 Posts
April 15 2011 06:03 GMT
#42
On April 15 2011 14:15 Bear4188 wrote:
Mondragon doesn't practice, he just shows up and gets lucky.

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joking, obviously


That its actually quoted from him, so not so much of a joke, he does get a bit lucky, just a bit, and he takes the games with those little things, hes one of the most incredibles players who are able to take every little thing in their favor and make it a winning factor.
이제동 화이팅! / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26jjD3ro-Xk /
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
April 15 2011 06:08 GMT
#43
Khaldor, you are a hero among casters. Thank you
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
searcher
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
277 Posts
April 15 2011 06:13 GMT
#44
On April 15 2011 14:53 Redunzl wrote:
why would you release this? Tod sent me reps too. I didnt make vods..wtf

Have you even read the OP? Jesus some people are despicably rude.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
April 15 2011 06:19 GMT
#45
For some reason I didn't think of Spine + Broodlord defense until seeing this game.

Is this a legitimate way to prevent Protoss from countering while you're guerrilla-roaching his bases?
My strategy is to fork people.
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
April 15 2011 06:20 GMT
#46
I hope we will see that mass queen + drone is the proper counter to the protoss deathball.
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
April 15 2011 06:24 GMT
#47
He's looking good.
An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom!
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2983 Posts
April 15 2011 06:25 GMT
#48
Wow ! That was one of the sickest ZvP I've seen. Crazy crazy game ! This is a must watch !

If he refines his play a little (esp macro wise : when you make more drones that Ret you know you're making TOO MUCH drones :p) I could very well see Mondragon becoming one of the best SC2 zergs.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 06:26:27
April 15 2011 06:25 GMT
#49
Why would he release this? We don't want happy Mondi fans, that would be too risky, imho. Btw, why would they only release one replay, and why did ToD send it to Khaldor? Probably because it is the only one ToD won, else Mondi would have sent it. Winner always sends replays, like in ESL.
Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 06:26:02
April 15 2011 06:25 GMT
#50
SC2 scene takeover imminent.

(yeah, I'm a fan since BW :<)
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
April 15 2011 06:33 GMT
#51
Great game, + Show Spoiler +
but I feel like Mondragon's macro was really weak mid game and he was floating way more resources than he should have been. I also feel like he should have remaxed with hydra/roach rather than pure roach when he took out the colossi den the first time. His biggest mistake was attacking the nexus with no mineral fields after he decimated ToD's army, letting Tod remax. ToD didn't play the best game either, did anyone else notice him supply blocked for ages at 18/18? How embarrassing.
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
April 15 2011 06:39 GMT
#52
On April 15 2011 15:33 GP wrote:
Great game, + Show Spoiler +
but I feel like Mondragon's macro was really weak mid game and he was floating way more resources than he should have been. I also feel like he should have remaxed with hydra/roach rather than pure roach when he took out the colossi den the first time. His biggest mistake was attacking the nexus with no mineral fields after he decimated ToD's army, letting Tod remax. ToD didn't play the best game either, did anyone else notice him supply blocked for ages at 18/18? How embarrassing.



+ Show Spoiler +
Not sure about other variations of the forge nexus cannon expand, but you stop probes at 18 to get your gateway, then pylon when you have 100. He might have been off due to having to deal with the lings and the pylon was delayed a bit. But the pylon is supposed to be after the gateway and possibly 2nd cannon.
We talkin about PRACTICE
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
April 15 2011 06:41 GMT
#53
On April 15 2011 15:39 mprs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 15:33 GP wrote:
Great game, + Show Spoiler +
but I feel like Mondragon's macro was really weak mid game and he was floating way more resources than he should have been. I also feel like he should have remaxed with hydra/roach rather than pure roach when he took out the colossi den the first time. His biggest mistake was attacking the nexus with no mineral fields after he decimated ToD's army, letting Tod remax. ToD didn't play the best game either, did anyone else notice him supply blocked for ages at 18/18? How embarrassing.



+ Show Spoiler +
Not sure about other variations of the forge nexus cannon expand, but you stop probes at 18 to get your gateway, then pylon when you have 100. He might have been off due to having to deal with the lings and the pylon was delayed a bit. But the pylon is supposed to be after the gateway and possibly 2nd cannon.

Thanks for the clarification.
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
April 15 2011 06:51 GMT
#54
On April 15 2011 14:13 Cedstick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 14:12 ch0c0b0fr34k wrote:
Wonder why Mondragon would allow to to be released o_O. Oh well, time to watch^^

To throw Cruncher off, obviously.


this... cruncher better play tricky
if play random i can't call any race imba?
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
April 15 2011 06:53 GMT
#55
God I love watching Mondi play Zerg
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
Snaphoo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States614 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 07:01:03
April 15 2011 06:55 GMT
#56
Great game, but it just seemed like

+ Show Spoiler +
ToD should have ended game much sooner. Hescouts mass brood lord + roach drops and then... pours all his money into cannons and stalkers... ??? A transition into void rays would have ended the game way sooner, but he eventually did that anyways, so wp.

That being said, Mondragon's relentless harass (sniping the robotics facility 2x in the game!) of expansions furthest away from one another to punish the deathball immobility was a thing of art. GG!
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 15 2011 07:18 GMT
#57
I look forward to one day seeing the Mondragon Evolution Chamber Trick used in professional play.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 15 2011 07:19 GMT
#58
On April 15 2011 15:25 Ludwigvan wrote:
Why would he release this? We don't want happy Mondi fans, that would be too risky, imho. Btw, why would they only release one replay, and why did ToD send it to Khaldor? Probably because it is the only one ToD won, else Mondi would have sent it. Winner always sends replays, like in ESL.

They've probably already played
Enyalus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States135 Posts
April 15 2011 07:24 GMT
#59
I've seen one or two pro Zergs throw down about 18 Spore Crawlers, make units, then cancel. Mostly because they're a lot cheaper than Spines or Evos. But I don't know if he had any Evo Chambers left after his main got wiped out, so the 15+ Evo Chambers weren't a bad idea.

Still, what an awesome game. A very strange, but awesome, army composition from Mondi that game.
ThePieMan
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada4 Posts
April 15 2011 07:30 GMT
#60
I can't help but think Tod should of walked up his collosus on the 6 o'clock base cliff and blinked the mass stalkers up to avoid the spine crawler farm.
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