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Gaspa
Profile Joined February 2011
Brazil109 Posts
April 07 2011 17:06 GMT
#201
On April 07 2011 21:48 Marcus420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 21:45 mumakil wrote:
On April 07 2011 21:40 FliedLice wrote:
On April 07 2011 21:20 Inori wrote:
@ OP

can you please give me a slight hope that you will turn Automaton into a fully working AI bot that we could play on bnet? Like actually "Insane" AI, instead of the cheating crap we got from Blizzard.


So that Zergling vs Tank AI isn't cheating?

...right



In theory it isnt actually cheating a human could do it if he knew exactly how the tank targeting works also he would need like 8000 apm or something ridicilous like that so we will actually never get to see it(until that razor april fools machine becomes a reality at least). Oh also the human player would have to have the game sense to see which zergling would be targetted next(as the op says its the closest one so u should be able to deduce it :D)

so not actually cheating just playing really really fast :D

also theres a world of difference between a maphack and a extra minerals hack for the AI when we can make the games more fair by just giving them uber micro. A player cant over come extra minerals and extra info but he can overcome better control(how much better control a player can overcome is debatable but still the point stands :D)

No human could do that. period.

This would be a CHEAT if used on ladder. Dont argue that its not.


And who said anything about using it on Ladder? Read more carefully before posting comments like that.
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
April 07 2011 17:07 GMT
#202
While the marine video I think is crazy to watch, if you think about the micro involved, the zergling vs. siege tank one was far more impressive. I mean holy shit: not one tank did splash damage.
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Blurb
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark55 Posts
April 07 2011 17:12 GMT
#203
Edit: Regarding the zerglings splitting before the shot lands. The script is capable of determining which zergling that is going to take the next blow. When a tank starts aiming (when its target dies for example), the bot predicts it's gonna fire at the closest zergling and executes a split the AI of Starcraft 2 is very predictable in that meaning..


After reading your edit on the Zergling micro, would it work if the T microed the tanks to fire at specific targets? As they don't overkill, you could basically shift-attack through the bunch, and if aiming for the middle lings, the casualties could be about just as severe as if the lings were unmicroed. You could probably still write a script that slice the lings into a number of groups, two that are 'outside' the target line, and one that is inside. The middle line would then be sliced into smaller groups, as it is not known which zergling will be targeted.

Have an automaton to control the tanks, and another one to control the lings - let havoc ensue!
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Rain.cz
Profile Joined July 2010
Czech Republic227 Posts
April 07 2011 17:14 GMT
#204
oh my god that was insane, i wish i had micro like automaton
I'm in Golden league, don't take my opinions seriously
pycho
Profile Joined January 2011
Paraguay372 Posts
April 07 2011 17:14 GMT
#205
blink stalkers vs anything! gogo
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
April 07 2011 17:16 GMT
#206
You should try making a full AI for people to play against! This is amazing.
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caution.slip
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States775 Posts
April 07 2011 17:17 GMT
#207
this was very cool to watch. But yes, i'd like to see automaton vs automaton. Blink stalkers owning everything would be fun.
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VTPerfect
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
April 07 2011 17:19 GMT
#208
very great video showing the great potential unit control has over just 1a.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
April 07 2011 17:21 GMT
#209
That rine video is just so awesome, the zling one is just more hilarious with all the zlings "jumping" out of the way(kinda picturing it more visually than just the screen )
junki
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5 Posts
April 07 2011 17:23 GMT
#210
Your automation 2000 was using Razer's Talon exo-skeleton wasn't it.
TexasToast
Profile Joined March 2011
United States82 Posts
April 07 2011 17:27 GMT
#211
If someone ever actually pulled off that marine micro in game I would shit my pants.
SilverJohnny
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States885 Posts
April 07 2011 17:29 GMT
#212
wowowowowow this is really damn cool, I would pay money to see automaton vs automaton showmatch lol.
also i think you should be able to combine like 5 archons to make a really really shitty oliver stone film - Keanu_Reaver, bw balance genius
Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
April 07 2011 17:29 GMT
#213
In the zerglings vs tanks, it's not micro, your bot is cheating by using the info of which ling is targetted. Even with perfect micro, it is not possible to achieve with normal information.

Marine vs bannelings is different, it really shows the limit of the unit. But to be fair, the bannelings sould also be controlled by a bot.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
April 07 2011 17:33 GMT
#214
how about hydras + overlords vs colossi? Since colossi don't deal damage at the beginning of their attack animation, couldn't you pick up the units before the damage is dealt and waste all their shots?
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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
April 07 2011 17:35 GMT
#215
...holy shit, that's ridiculous. The ling splitting is unreal. Nice work.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
joheinous
Profile Joined August 2010
Iceland522 Posts
April 07 2011 17:35 GMT
#216
lol awesome videos, you seriously made my day.
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Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
April 07 2011 17:38 GMT
#217
if marineking had something even close to that, that would be so imbalanced. lol nice vids
MOOG
Profile Joined October 2010
United States188 Posts
April 07 2011 17:40 GMT
#218
On April 08 2011 02:33 dudeman001 wrote:
how about hydras + overlords vs colossi? Since colossi don't deal damage at the beginning of their attack animation, couldn't you pick up the units before the damage is dealt and waste all their shots?


thats a good idea.

Perhaps another one could be perfect phoenix micro vs mutas.
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Deletrious
Profile Joined December 2007
United States458 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 17:42:37
April 07 2011 17:40 GMT
#219
Edit: Never mind, went back and read rest of post.
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greendestiny
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina114 Posts
April 07 2011 17:43 GMT
#220
Holy mother of ...
I just found my new favorite videos.
Can you guys imagine a tournament where Automaton 2000 plays vs humans? :-0
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