EPTFrom the desk of MLG CEO Sundance DiGiovanni - Page 8
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Glenwoodian
United States28 Posts
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
I really hope we could get the figures from the different feeds, but that will never happend. | ||
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Sceptor87
Canada266 Posts
But the problem that I have is they admit the stream issues were an issue, but there is no word about anything else. Sound issues like IdrA hearing a Void Ray bring built? That right there ruins an entire tournament. It doesn't matter if he would have won or lost, the fact is it still is there in the back of your mind that an outside thing influenced the results. It's like that guy in Happy Gilmore yelling out "Jackass" all the time. Live spectators not hearing the commentators is just stupid. Day9, WHEAT, and JP might as well have not even been there if that's the case. Scheduling and spectated matches. qxc said in an interview I watched earlier that he played one match on Saturday. ONE. Then to compound that there were half hour breaks in between spectated matches. Why? This is not MLG's first rodeo. Stream issues can happen. That's technology. But issues like this are just caused by poor planing. I don't know. I guess I was just expecting more after seeing other tournaments run fairly well. And some even by people with no real history of running a tournament, like the reddit invitational. | ||
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Skank
United States329 Posts
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Exactable
Australia263 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On April 05 2011 11:39 Skillz_Man wrote: I don't see how they could make the prize pool any lower. Players like Naniwa - it costs him maybe 1.5k-2k dollars to fly over the the US and pay for a hotel, food, etc. If they actually want to attract players they have to have a decent prize pool... I forget which player it was, but he wanted to go to the MLG but his team told him you pretty much have to win for it to be justified by the low amount of cash earned. Ofcourse 5k is a great amount in an online tourney, but when you have to fly somewhere, and you are competing for 5k dollars where you are paying 70 dollars for a ticket as well as housing etc it adds up not really being worth it. (Hence very few europian players) I heard that $5k is the max amount of prize money a tournament can give out before being required to have a discussion with Blizzard about the implications of expanding the prize pool. I think I read this in the IGN Proleague tournament thread, but it seems that the original post may have been edited (or maybe my memory is faulty). | ||
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gibbons_
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On April 05 2011 12:28 eviltomahawk wrote: I heard that $5k is the max amount of prize money a tournament can give out before being required to have a discussion with Blizzard about the implications of expanding the prize pool. I think I read this in the IGN Proleague tournament thread, but it seems that the original post may have been edited (or maybe my memory is faulty). No you're correct. "Q: Why only $5,000 for Season 1? A: $5,000 is the maximum you can give as prize money before you have to jump a bunch of hoops with Blizzard. We're working with Blizzard in regards to our future events but for now, for our test run, we're just working with that amount. Also, not to say that $5,000 is an insignificant amount, but our future events will significantly eclipse that mark." http://www.ign.com/ipl/tournament-announcement I'm curious, does Blizzard control prize pool for all these tournaments? | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On April 05 2011 12:46 zaii wrote: No you're correct. "Q: Why only $5,000 for Season 1? A: $5,000 is the maximum you can give as prize money before you have to jump a bunch of hoops with Blizzard. We're working with Blizzard in regards to our future events but for now, for our test run, we're just working with that amount. Also, not to say that $5,000 is an insignificant amount, but our future events will significantly eclipse that mark." http://www.ign.com/ipl/tournament-announcement I'm curious, does Blizzard control prize pool for all these tournaments? Technically, all tournaments are required to submit a form to Blizzard notifying them of the tournament. It's basically their way of having a sense of control over the e-sports scene, though I have yet to see them exercise this in a way other than just blindly approving the hordes of tournament forms that are submitted to them. The form can be found here. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/community/esports/ If you plan to host a StarCraft II tournament, please fill out this required form with all the necessary information to proceed. An acceptance is required to hold StarCraft II tournaments. Will the tournament be an on-site event? * Yes No Is there a fee for people to watch the tournament? * Yes No Will more than 500 players participate in the tournament? * Yes No Is there an entry fee for participating in the tournament? * Yes No Will the tournament offer total cash and item rewards valued over $5,000? * Yes No Will the tournament be televised? * Yes No Will the tournament have sponsors? * Yes No I guess it's probably a way for Blizzard to have a method of legally collecting royalties or imposing fees or exerting copyright BS should the tournament become large and profitable enough. The tournament submission form seems to be their way of preventing another KeSPA vs Blizzard situation anywhere else for SC2. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
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MLG_Sundance
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I know that many of you have no faith in us but I just want you all to know that we are committed to this for the long haul. Please keep the suggestions coming. Although we can't do everything it's helpful to hear constructive criticism. -sd (edit) Yes game audio and casters for the crowd will also be looked into. It's been a long and rough weekend - I'm not running at 100% capacity. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Inky87
United States533 Posts
On April 05 2011 12:55 MLG_Sundance wrote: I wanted to quickly post to let all of you know that we will be working to not only give you a stable stream in Cbus but a better broadcast experience as well (fewer delays, more matches, more interviews and a proper closing ceremony). I know that many of you have no faith in us but I just want you all to know that we are committed to this for the long haul. Please keep the suggestions coming. Although we can't do everything it's helpful to hear constructive criticism. -sd (edit) Yes game audio and casters for the crowd will also be looked into. It's been a long and rough weekend - I'm not running at 100% capacity. We know you'll do good man ^_^ | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On April 05 2011 12:55 MLG_Sundance wrote: I wanted to quickly post to let all of you know that we will be working to not only give you a stable stream in Cbus but a better broadcast experience as well (fewer delays, more matches, more interviews and a proper closing ceremony). I know that many of you have no faith in us but I just want you all to know that we are committed to this for the long haul. Please keep the suggestions coming. Although we can't do everything it's helpful to hear constructive criticism. -sd This isn't the first time I've seen you post lol, forgot your old login info? haha But on a serious note, Sundance, you wouldn't come on here and post on TL, reacted the way you have on twitter the past 4 days, and done what you guys have done if you didn't really mean it, that you want to put in a better broadcast. If the rumors are true that there just isn't fast enough upload in all of Dallas, then the issue is a venue problem over anything. Hopefully Columbus doesn't have the same issues, or for that matter Anaheim, Raleigh, and Providence. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1603 Posts
Perhaps they need someone to sit back not be involved with planning and just think of what could go wrong at any time based off what they're doing. Then take that list and determine what is most useful to avoid and go off that. | ||
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thragar
Canada450 Posts
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FishStix
United States425 Posts
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MLG_Sundance
2 Posts
On April 05 2011 13:02 NoobSkills wrote: He writes all that. Then restreams the delayed weekend in a non-edited format. Perhaps they need someone to sit back not be involved with planning and just think of what could go wrong at any time based off what they're doing. Then take that list and determine what is most useful to avoid and go off that. Last thing before go to bed for real - to edit the stream would take too much time. It's either the stream with delays or go dark. After all the issues we decided that something was better than nothing. Will also be bundling up all the replays as soon as we are able to. | ||
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Vehemus
United States586 Posts
On April 05 2011 12:55 MLG_Sundance wrote: I wanted to quickly post to let all of you know that we will be working to not only give you a stable stream in Cbus but a better broadcast experience as well (fewer delays, more matches, more interviews and a proper closing ceremony). I know that many of you have no faith in us but I just want you all to know that we are committed to this for the long haul. Please keep the suggestions coming. Although we can't do everything it's helpful to hear constructive criticism. -sd (edit) Yes game audio and casters for the crowd will also be looked into. It's been a long and rough weekend - I'm not running at 100% capacity. You're going to get a lot of shit, and rightfully so. But I, for one, appreciate the fact that you have been upfront and admitted fault instead of trying to pass blame or ignore that problems do not exist. I do not think there is a solution for the audio problem without soundproof booths. While you would only need two, for the game that's actually being casted at the moment, it's not likely something you can just throw together or add for your next event. For live SC2 events to ever be completely legit, however, it's a necessity. The live crowd not being able to hear the game being casted is extremely unfortunate. But thank you for listening to the community. Although I was severely disappointed with all the problems with the broadcast, I hope others will be willing to give MLG a chance at the next event. | ||
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