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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
April 05 2011 01:11 GMT
#121
Well, instead of asking for the refund I'll give a shot at Columbus and take the HD there.

I hope they do it right, they seriously underestimated the SC2(or e-sports in general) community in how many would watch it.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
TestSubject893
Profile Joined September 2009
United States774 Posts
April 05 2011 01:14 GMT
#122
I think this really says a lot about Sundance and MLG as a corporation. I'm really glad to have people like this at the forefront of eSports in America.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
April 05 2011 01:18 GMT
#123
Just in case anyone didn't realize already, this is the same (prerecorded, I think) speech he delivered to the stream on Sunday.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
internaut
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada23 Posts
April 05 2011 01:21 GMT
#124
Can someone please talk about the failures of MLG that were NOT related to the internet connection?

Why did we need to wait 45+ minutes in between games? All you needed were *gasp* four whole computers on the main stage so the next match could get set up while the first match is being played.

Why did the commentators need to read the TL twitter feed to update us on the games that were being played? Why could they not join the game lobbies and spectate the games? I'm sure MLG has some dumb rule that only games on the main stage can be casted. That rule makes no sense and ruins the broadcast with constant delays.

Why are there still not booths for the competitors? The sound issues have already compromised the game of Idra vs Socke and made it so people spectating the event live cannot hear the commentators.

This one is more excusable given the constant chaos but why was there not more MLG content aside from the games? Interviews where literally one question is asked? Map videos which border on the mundane? The only MLG content that was interesting was the variety of ways the commentators figured out how to kill time during the massive delays.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 01:29:00
April 05 2011 01:23 GMT
#125
On April 05 2011 10:10 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 10:04 crms wrote:
On April 05 2011 09:18 zaii wrote:
On April 05 2011 09:06 Skillz_Man wrote:
On April 05 2011 08:59 zaii wrote:
On April 05 2011 08:57 Skillz_Man wrote:
I really really found this forced. Sundance isn't a stupid person - but some of the things he says are soo cheesy.

"You deserve better than this"... How more cheesy can you get, it really bothers me because it seems to shut people up. It's like having an arguement with someone and they say "Yeah, you're right"... They are just trying to get off the hook and that's what I feel Sundance is trying to do.

I don't expect a big change to anything in MLG besides stream crashing, and I really hope people will not be manipulated easily by what he says here. Everyone can make up bs - So until we see real improvement we shouldn't be thanking him at all. Remember in SotG how he was hyping everything so much, and even if the stream didn't fail it would still probably be the worst viewing experience from all major tournaments due to all the delays etc.



If only you knew more about Sundance...


If only you understood he's a CEO and it's his job. I don't think you exactly understand how big of a role money plays in society, regardless of whether it's good or bad, it's just a reality.


Again you don't much about Sundance and how how he made MLG. If Sundance was all about the money he would have sold the Company when it was still on TV(USA network and G4 TV, but he didn't. In fact MLG has been losing money for the past 5-6 years. They only manage to make profit this year.






most business don't have a lot of earnings in their first 5 years. Are you saying Sundance is some sort of esports saint that doesn't believe he can make an amazing living (if hes not already) through MLG yet continues to grind because he wants to do it? Don't be so naive. It's his business venture and he believes in it because he think it will eventually breakthrough and he and the company will become extremely successful. If he didn't believe in this MLG would be gone by now or have a new owner. None of this is bad, it's business but don't act like hes not in it for himself just as much as any other ceo of a small business.



Like I said earlier If only you knew more about Sundance, and followed MLG since the beginning.



you can keep repeating yourself if you like but you're adding nothing of substance. you must be really gullible, ronald mcdonald really cares about kids too, right?

I honestly don't even understand the point you're trying to make. are you saying that if some how sundance had the foresight to know MLG would never be successful and would lose millions of dollars a year he would still put on the MLG because he has a passion for putting on gaming tournaments? That he would sacrifice his livelihood and his time because he has such a passion for gaming nothing would come between it? Honestly, what is your point?
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Alaz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
108 Posts
April 05 2011 01:24 GMT
#126
I think the sound issue at the live event is a big problem. People who spend the money to travel to MLG can't hear the commentators live? How boring is that.

Give them players the tiny headphones for game sound and then sound proof headphones over those. Same thing they do at GSL(minus the booth blazing music)
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 05 2011 01:30 GMT
#127
On April 05 2011 10:18 d3_crescentia wrote:
Just in case anyone didn't realize already, this is the same (prerecorded, I think) speech he delivered to the stream on Sunday.


This isn't super concerning to me. I liked the content of his speech, and I think its more important to take the time to deliver a concise, well thought-out message, than to do something live and say something wrong accidentally.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 01:57:12
April 05 2011 01:56 GMT
#128
@MLG_Sundance
Sundance DiGiovanni
@anepicname Site saw just under a million uniques during the event. Will be releasing final numbers once we get a full picture.

I guess it's hoping to much to get the numbers per feed, probably will be all the feeds.
I am not young enough to know everything.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 05 2011 01:57 GMT
#129
On April 05 2011 10:56 Jiddra wrote:
@MLG_Sundance
Sundance DiGiovanni
@anepicname Site saw just under a million uniques during the event. Will be releasing final numbers once we get a full picture.



nice so perhaps when the stream was working.. we beat the eagles. (:
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
April 05 2011 02:00 GMT
#130
Sorry if I'm not so quick to forgive and forget but sounds like the same old shit MLG has been pushing out after every bad event, always "we're sorry, we'll try harder" and they keep making huge mistakes all over the place. If they get the recipe right one of these days then hell ya I'll be all for it and will give them full support, but until they show some results it's all just public relations bullshit.
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
April 05 2011 02:03 GMT
#131
On April 05 2011 10:23 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 10:10 zaii wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:04 crms wrote:
On April 05 2011 09:18 zaii wrote:
On April 05 2011 09:06 Skillz_Man wrote:
On April 05 2011 08:59 zaii wrote:
On April 05 2011 08:57 Skillz_Man wrote:
I really really found this forced. Sundance isn't a stupid person - but some of the things he says are soo cheesy.

"You deserve better than this"... How more cheesy can you get, it really bothers me because it seems to shut people up. It's like having an arguement with someone and they say "Yeah, you're right"... They are just trying to get off the hook and that's what I feel Sundance is trying to do.

I don't expect a big change to anything in MLG besides stream crashing, and I really hope people will not be manipulated easily by what he says here. Everyone can make up bs - So until we see real improvement we shouldn't be thanking him at all. Remember in SotG how he was hyping everything so much, and even if the stream didn't fail it would still probably be the worst viewing experience from all major tournaments due to all the delays etc.



If only you knew more about Sundance...


If only you understood he's a CEO and it's his job. I don't think you exactly understand how big of a role money plays in society, regardless of whether it's good or bad, it's just a reality.


Again you don't much about Sundance and how how he made MLG. If Sundance was all about the money he would have sold the Company when it was still on TV(USA network and G4 TV, but he didn't. In fact MLG has been losing money for the past 5-6 years. They only manage to make profit this year.






most business don't have a lot of earnings in their first 5 years. Are you saying Sundance is some sort of esports saint that doesn't believe he can make an amazing living (if hes not already) through MLG yet continues to grind because he wants to do it? Don't be so naive. It's his business venture and he believes in it because he think it will eventually breakthrough and he and the company will become extremely successful. If he didn't believe in this MLG would be gone by now or have a new owner. None of this is bad, it's business but don't act like hes not in it for himself just as much as any other ceo of a small business.



Like I said earlier If only you knew more about Sundance, and followed MLG since the beginning.



you can keep repeating yourself if you like but you're adding nothing of substance. you must be really gullible, ronald mcdonald really cares about kids too, right?

I honestly don't even understand the point you're trying to make. are you saying that if some how sundance had the foresight to know MLG would never be successful and would lose millions of dollars a year he would still put on the MLG because he has a passion for putting on gaming tournaments? That he would sacrifice his livelihood and his time because he has such a passion for gaming nothing would come between it? Honestly, what is your point?


My point is that some of you guys are gullible, believing posts saying that Sundance is all about the money and he doesn't care about the community, Competition, and the future competitive gaming. some of you guys are putting Sundance in the same boat as those fat cat CEO's who only care about the money and don't give a crap about the people/community. I understand you guys thinking this way, Because you know nothing about him or don't follow MLG since the beginning.

Also why I repeated what I said earlier? Because its true. If you knew more about him, You would think differently have a better understanding of Sundance/MLG.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
April 05 2011 02:05 GMT
#132
On April 05 2011 11:03 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 10:23 crms wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:10 zaii wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:04 crms wrote:
On April 05 2011 09:18 zaii wrote:
On April 05 2011 09:06 Skillz_Man wrote:
On April 05 2011 08:59 zaii wrote:
On April 05 2011 08:57 Skillz_Man wrote:
I really really found this forced. Sundance isn't a stupid person - but some of the things he says are soo cheesy.

"You deserve better than this"... How more cheesy can you get, it really bothers me because it seems to shut people up. It's like having an arguement with someone and they say "Yeah, you're right"... They are just trying to get off the hook and that's what I feel Sundance is trying to do.

I don't expect a big change to anything in MLG besides stream crashing, and I really hope people will not be manipulated easily by what he says here. Everyone can make up bs - So until we see real improvement we shouldn't be thanking him at all. Remember in SotG how he was hyping everything so much, and even if the stream didn't fail it would still probably be the worst viewing experience from all major tournaments due to all the delays etc.



If only you knew more about Sundance...


If only you understood he's a CEO and it's his job. I don't think you exactly understand how big of a role money plays in society, regardless of whether it's good or bad, it's just a reality.


Again you don't much about Sundance and how how he made MLG. If Sundance was all about the money he would have sold the Company when it was still on TV(USA network and G4 TV, but he didn't. In fact MLG has been losing money for the past 5-6 years. They only manage to make profit this year.






most business don't have a lot of earnings in their first 5 years. Are you saying Sundance is some sort of esports saint that doesn't believe he can make an amazing living (if hes not already) through MLG yet continues to grind because he wants to do it? Don't be so naive. It's his business venture and he believes in it because he think it will eventually breakthrough and he and the company will become extremely successful. If he didn't believe in this MLG would be gone by now or have a new owner. None of this is bad, it's business but don't act like hes not in it for himself just as much as any other ceo of a small business.



Like I said earlier If only you knew more about Sundance, and followed MLG since the beginning.



you can keep repeating yourself if you like but you're adding nothing of substance. you must be really gullible, ronald mcdonald really cares about kids too, right?

I honestly don't even understand the point you're trying to make. are you saying that if some how sundance had the foresight to know MLG would never be successful and would lose millions of dollars a year he would still put on the MLG because he has a passion for putting on gaming tournaments? That he would sacrifice his livelihood and his time because he has such a passion for gaming nothing would come between it? Honestly, what is your point?


My point is that some of you guys are gullible, believing posts saying that Sundance is all about the money and he doesn't care about the community, Competition, and the future competitive gaming. some of you guys are putting Sundance in the same boat as those fat cat CEO's who only care about the money and don't give a crap about the people/community. I understand you guys thinking this way, Because you know nothing about him or don't follow MLG since the beginning.

Also why I repeated what I said earlier? Because its true. If you knew more about him, You would think differently have a better understanding of Sundance/MLG.


I take it you have worked with him, or are you a close friend?
I am not young enough to know everything.
DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
April 05 2011 02:16 GMT
#133
lol, some of you have a huge case of entitlement syndrome. No one is entitled to a damn thing unless you were 1) there or, 2) spent money. All this pissing on MLG because they didn't get what they wanted, when they wanted it, how they wanted.. it's just funny to me. I'm all for making suggestions on how to make MLG and/or eSports more pleasurable to the most people; however, some of the comments in this thread, and several others would make you think this was the most disastrous thing to ever have happened to eSports and SC2.
y so srs? D=
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 05 2011 02:18 GMT
#134
On April 05 2011 10:56 Jiddra wrote:
@MLG_Sundance
Sundance DiGiovanni
@anepicname Site saw just under a million uniques during the event. Will be releasing final numbers once we get a full picture.

I guess it's hoping to much to get the numbers per feed, probably will be all the feeds.


If it's so popular I'd really like to see an increase in the prize pool to reflect that. 5,000 just isn't much money for people to be traveling from Europe and whatnot. SC2 obviously makes them more money than any other game, I'd love for the players to see some of that.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
April 05 2011 02:22 GMT
#135
On April 05 2011 09:39 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 08:57 Skillz_Man wrote:
"You deserve better than this"... How more cheesy can you get, it really bothers me because it seems to shut people up. It's like having an arguement with someone and they say "Yeah, you're right"... They are just trying to get off the hook and that's what I feel Sundance is trying to do.


Actually, people who have an argument and than have the guts to admit that the other person is right at the end of it normally get my respect in general.





See but it's not an arguement. Only stupid people keep arguing an unwinnable situation... While MLG is a little smarter than that and then everyone seems pleased... Even though big changes aren't being made.

I mean especially teachers, this is such a common technique - saying okay you're right or something along those lines. And it's enough to satisfy most people when they didn't do anything.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
henreiman
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States407 Posts
April 05 2011 02:34 GMT
#136
I didn't buy the pass but I'd love to see whether people are opting for the free pass or the refund. Could say a lot about the success of upcoming MLGs...hopefully people can look past this or we could potentially see a significant prize pool drop off =/ Mind adding a poll to see which option people are taking?
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
April 05 2011 02:39 GMT
#137
On April 05 2011 11:34 henreiman wrote:
I didn't buy the pass but I'd love to see whether people are opting for the free pass or the refund. Could say a lot about the success of upcoming MLGs...hopefully people can look past this or we could potentially see a significant prize pool drop off =/ Mind adding a poll to see which option people are taking?


I don't see how they could make the prize pool any lower. Players like Naniwa - it costs him maybe 1.5k-2k dollars to fly over the the US and pay for a hotel, food, etc. If they actually want to attract players they have to have a decent prize pool... I forget which player it was, but he wanted to go to the MLG but his team told him you pretty much have to win for it to be justified by the low amount of cash earned.

Ofcourse 5k is a great amount in an online tourney, but when you have to fly somewhere, and you are competing for 5k dollars where you are paying 70 dollars for a ticket as well as housing etc it adds up not really being worth it. (Hence very few europian players)
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
April 05 2011 02:43 GMT
#138
It's nice to see a professional approach from Sundance; in terms of the streaming it was a major blunder for MLG this weekend. It had such potential to be an incredible tournament to help kick off 2011 alongside TSL, GSL and the upcoming NASL. I just feel the streaming issues will leave a bitter taste in everyone's mouth when MLG Dallas 2011 is mentioned..

Hopefully Naniwa's 25-2 (25-0) run will overshadow this though hehe..

The only way to make things better is to provide a flawless service at the next MLG events then we will have restored faith in you Mr Sundance
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McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
April 05 2011 02:46 GMT
#139
Im kind of glad all this happens. I think this will really show them how big e-sports is getting. I'm going to Columbus so hopefully most of it is fixed by then!

(maybe with all this crazy love for starcraft the prize pool will significantly go up next year?)
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
April 05 2011 02:46 GMT
#140
On April 05 2011 11:39 Skillz_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 11:34 henreiman wrote:
I didn't buy the pass but I'd love to see whether people are opting for the free pass or the refund. Could say a lot about the success of upcoming MLGs...hopefully people can look past this or we could potentially see a significant prize pool drop off =/ Mind adding a poll to see which option people are taking?


I don't see how they could make the prize pool any lower. Players like Naniwa - it costs him maybe 1.5k-2k dollars to fly over the the US and pay for a hotel, food, etc. If they actually want to attract players they have to have a decent prize pool... I forget which player it was, but he wanted to go to the MLG but his team told him you pretty much have to win for it to be justified by the low amount of cash earned.

Ofcourse 5k is a great amount in an online tourney, but when you have to fly somewhere, and you are competing for 5k dollars where you are paying 70 dollars for a ticket as well as housing etc it adds up not really being worth it. (Hence very few europian players)


I think it was on SOTG, Sundance said he took a gamble by adding SC2 for MLG. If it works out well Prize money will go up, If not it will stay the same. Guess he was trying to be on the safe side.
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