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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
April 04 2011 22:59 GMT
#81
Wow... He has an amazing name..
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
April 04 2011 23:00 GMT
#82
On April 05 2011 07:31 MrthePig wrote:
why the hell would i even ask for a refund?! i put my money in the hands of those who are dedicated to growing esports. that money went exactly where it needed to go.

and i will be buying my ticket for columbus.

Unless you're into reinforcing negative habits, then sure, pay 100 times over. Most people, however, look for value in where they put their money. Outside of necessities, people look for luxury, convenience and investment.

Given the majority of people that attended and tried to watch, they didn't get any of that.
Skype: divito7
JayConn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States408 Posts
April 04 2011 23:41 GMT
#83
I think they handled this well, and I can only hope the upcoming events runs flawlessly. It could be one of the best events out there, imo, and I hope they succeed.
whiteguycash
Profile Joined April 2010
United States476 Posts
April 04 2011 23:50 GMT
#84
I hope nobody lost their job over this. Now that the people in those positions have experienced this, they have better and improved foresight. Bringing in new people that haven't experienced it will not solve any problems.

Or maybe I'm wrong.
Bart
Profile Joined November 2010
494 Posts
April 04 2011 23:51 GMT
#85
On April 05 2011 05:12 TUski wrote:

Impressive move by the corporation. I'm glad they're listening to fans.


I agree. The apology and promise to improve came off sincere. Good on you Sundance.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Fan of: MKP, Select, MC, Kripp, Purge, JP, Qpad Red Pandas
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6119 Posts
April 04 2011 23:51 GMT
#86
I don't get why there were only problems with the SC2 stream? (Might be wrong here). If they were having infrastructural problems wouldn't it affect all games?

Also does any one know the viewer numbers across the different games?
#1 Terran hater
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
April 04 2011 23:55 GMT
#87
It's refreshing to see some responsibility being taken by MLG. Hopefully, they'll get all this settled by Columbus.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
April 04 2011 23:57 GMT
#88
I really really found this forced. Sundance isn't a stupid person - but some of the things he says are soo cheesy.

"You deserve better than this"... How more cheesy can you get, it really bothers me because it seems to shut people up. It's like having an arguement with someone and they say "Yeah, you're right"... They are just trying to get off the hook and that's what I feel Sundance is trying to do.

I don't expect a big change to anything in MLG besides stream crashing, and I really hope people will not be manipulated easily by what he says here. Everyone can make up bs - So until we see real improvement we shouldn't be thanking him at all. Remember in SotG how he was hyping everything so much, and even if the stream didn't fail it would still probably be the worst viewing experience from all major tournaments due to all the delays etc.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Vinx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada259 Posts
April 04 2011 23:58 GMT
#89
I thought it was very classy of Sundance to handle things this way, gl with the next MLG, I know i'll be watching
Starcraft 2 > RL ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
April 04 2011 23:59 GMT
#90
On April 05 2011 08:57 Skillz_Man wrote:
I really really found this forced. Sundance isn't a stupid person - but some of the things he says are soo cheesy.

"You deserve better than this"... How more cheesy can you get, it really bothers me because it seems to shut people up. It's like having an arguement with someone and they say "Yeah, you're right"... They are just trying to get off the hook and that's what I feel Sundance is trying to do.

I don't expect a big change to anything in MLG besides stream crashing, and I really hope people will not be manipulated easily by what he says here. Everyone can make up bs - So until we see real improvement we shouldn't be thanking him at all. Remember in SotG how he was hyping everything so much, and even if the stream didn't fail it would still probably be the worst viewing experience from all major tournaments due to all the delays etc.



If only you knew more about Sundance...
faulty
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada204 Posts
April 05 2011 00:03 GMT
#91
good writeup, im anxious to see the improvements for columbus
"More gg, more skill" - White-Ra
OverZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States271 Posts
April 05 2011 00:03 GMT
#92
Glad to see this. Sundance is truely a class-act. He is responsible for the majority of MLG's growth. I'm glad to see that he stepped up on Sunday and admitted their mistake. He's good in my book.

On a side note: I'm pretty sure SC2 alone crashed their site and stream the first day!
PLAGUUUUUUU <My Stream: twitch.tv/paullolol > Check it out some time!!!
faulty
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada204 Posts
April 05 2011 00:05 GMT
#93
On April 05 2011 08:51 Highways wrote:
I don't get why there were only problems with the SC2 stream? (Might be wrong here). If they were having infrastructural problems wouldn't it affect all games?

Also does any one know the viewer numbers across the different games?



the Halo stream was affect as well, if i recall
"More gg, more skill" - White-Ra
Leftwing
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada229 Posts
April 05 2011 00:06 GMT
#94
On April 05 2011 06:06 Warrior Madness wrote:
Good start but I hope they give DJwheat a big fat raise.


Man that guy held that stream together as best he could, definitely deserves some praise at least.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
April 05 2011 00:06 GMT
#95
On April 05 2011 08:59 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 08:57 Skillz_Man wrote:
I really really found this forced. Sundance isn't a stupid person - but some of the things he says are soo cheesy.

"You deserve better than this"... How more cheesy can you get, it really bothers me because it seems to shut people up. It's like having an arguement with someone and they say "Yeah, you're right"... They are just trying to get off the hook and that's what I feel Sundance is trying to do.

I don't expect a big change to anything in MLG besides stream crashing, and I really hope people will not be manipulated easily by what he says here. Everyone can make up bs - So until we see real improvement we shouldn't be thanking him at all. Remember in SotG how he was hyping everything so much, and even if the stream didn't fail it would still probably be the worst viewing experience from all major tournaments due to all the delays etc.



If only you knew more about Sundance...


If only you understood he's a CEO and it's his job. I don't think you exactly understand how big of a role money plays in society, regardless of whether it's good or bad, it's just a reality.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Zulf
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia45 Posts
April 05 2011 00:08 GMT
#96
first 2 days sat around waiting for stream to come back up, day 3 was good, looking forward to the next mlg event, hopefully its stable for all 3 days =)
iMMvp #1
BoneDancr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 00:10:23
April 05 2011 00:08 GMT
#97
There is a reason that the best companies, partner and OUT SOURCE with other best in class service providers to provide superior commercial products. Trying to do communications on this scale on your own, let alone some hotel/concert venue, is a disaster waiting to happen. Sure its ok when your events turn out hundreads to thousands of people, but once you start having viewers of the scale now showing up for esports events, you'd be a fool to use anyone other than tier 1 providers with BRAND NAME accountability behind the cast and the presentation.

Those feeds should say '..brought to you by Google' or '..IBM' or '...Verzion'. For starters, some of those companies would reduce their fees, some might even cover most of them just to have brand positioning. Secondly, that same brand positioning puts them 'on the hook' to make or break a fantastic product.
-end of line
Chained
Profile Joined February 2010
United States137 Posts
April 05 2011 00:10 GMT
#98
On April 05 2011 07:04 cYaN wrote:
I just hope MLG realizes there were more problems as well. Obviously the stream was the worst, but the downtime between games when the stream was actually working was also terrible. Hope they fix both for the next event. Otherwise I won't actually look forward to MLGs anymore, which would be a shame because it has such potential.


At the same time, Id rather them work on one thing at a time. I dont really need them to show peoples face straight after the game, hell I dont even mind 30 minute delays if the stream is working perfectly fine. I think it would be better to close up one wound at a time rather then put a band-aid on all of them.

Also, this isnt really something thats new to me. I guess its nice about the transparency but I believe they have been like this for a while, and anyone who thought MLG didnt care about their stream is a little foolishly thinking. But maybe Im giving too much credit lol. Personally Ill continue to show up, one day, just maybe one day it will be super awesomeness.
DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
April 05 2011 00:13 GMT
#99
On April 05 2011 08:57 Skillz_Man wrote:
I really really found this forced. Sundance isn't a stupid person - but some of the things he says are soo cheesy.

"You deserve better than this"... How more cheesy can you get, it really bothers me because it seems to shut people up. It's like having an arguement with someone and they say "Yeah, you're right"... They are just trying to get off the hook and that's what I feel Sundance is trying to do.

I don't expect a big change to anything in MLG besides stream crashing, and I really hope people will not be manipulated easily by what he says here. Everyone can make up bs - So until we see real improvement we shouldn't be thanking him at all. Remember in SotG how he was hyping everything so much, and even if the stream didn't fail it would still probably be the worst viewing experience from all major tournaments due to all the delays etc.


But what is the APPROPRIATE response for the stream issue?

I mean, I get that everyone won't drink the kool-aid with this, but shit man.. what happened, happened--and at least they acknowledged the fact that it was less than ideal.

Even IF the intentions of this statement was to "get them off the hook"--they still acknowledged the fact that something went wrong, which is much more than so many others would do. It's not the end of the world. Jesus Christ. MLG will learn from mistakes, and the event will get better. It will become better by at least acknowledging past mistakes. This was appropriate.
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
April 05 2011 00:13 GMT
#100
good stuff, glad to see MLG stepping up to take the blame, even if they didn't mention the other, at-venue problems
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
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