I'm looking for specific strategies and methods you have/use. Does this all become second nature after sometime?

I macro fine up to a certain point, but sometime between my 2nd and 3rd base / microing army / engaging I manage to stockpile like 2-3k and don't know how to spend it. I've heard just building SOMETHING is good, but right now I just end up panicking and throwing down a ton of barracks / cmd center. Struggling :\

FreezerJumps

Canada653 Posts

March 31 2011 00:21 GMT

Good thing you made a thread about this. I have the same problems and I've spent HOURS using the search function and haven't found anything. That thing is so useless!

LesPhoques

Canada782 Posts

March 31 2011 00:23 GMT

Upgrades
Teching

NikonTC

United Kingdom418 Posts

March 31 2011 00:23 GMT

if i'm moving out for a big fight that i know is going to use a lot of my concentration up, i try and throw down more production facilities as i move out, so that when i inevitably float minerals when im microing, i then have increased production to spend it quicker.

of course the best strategy is just to practice and get better mechanics :p

SiN]

United States540 Posts

March 31 2011 00:23 GMT

There's no real trick to it. It just comes with practice. You'll get faster and faster as you play.

Mouth

United States122 Posts

March 31 2011 00:24 GMT

simple answer build stuff. Im bad with the same thing so I follow day9's advice. When your practicing one thing focus on it every game no matter what. So don't bother with micro focus on macroing even if you lose games because you didn't micro, and eventually you'll be good enough at macro then you can focus on micro in battles.

mskaa

Denmark155 Posts

March 31 2011 00:24 GMT

Well really once your macro gets up to speed you shouldnt really start floating minerals unless your maxed out. Its a good idea to know how many unit producing structures you can afford of of 3base and make you get that amount, maybe even a few more.
Also its worth noticing that if you miss a overlord/depo/pylon, your money sky rockets once you are on 2/3 bases so that should never happen

Seraph.yongweihua

Canada224 Posts

March 31 2011 00:25 GMT

Throw up more production facilities. You never know when you need to quickly replace a lost army, or counter their units. Make sure you have sufficient production facilities for any counter units you might need to make.

dstryr

United States69 Posts

March 31 2011 00:26 GMT

On March 31 2011 09:21 FreezerJumps wrote:
Good thing you made a thread about this. I have the same problems and I've spent HOURS using the search function and haven't found anything. That thing is so useless!

Sarcasm detected. I have read threads and searched before. I'm asking for specific mental strategies you might use to shift your attention. Thanks for the useful comment.

Aequos

Canada606 Posts

March 31 2011 00:26 GMT

#10

Usually the way I try to keep spending my minerals is look through my replays at specific times my income spikes (pre battle, after taking a third, etc). Then I look at if I could have spent this money at the time (through better unit management and such).

If I couldn't, I change my build to involve more warpgates/tech buildings at that point (like, throwing down 4 gateways instead of 3 when I expand).

If I could, I go to a mirror and angrily scold myself for failing to macro until I feel bad, then remember this tragic experience the next game I play.

JackhammerIV

United Kingdom221 Posts

March 31 2011 00:27 GMT

#11

Well do you spend time during the battle making units?? The problem usually comes from not finding certain times when attacking to decide "I don't need to look at this." then jumping back to the main and making the production facilities you need/want, doing your upgrades, more bases, etc. Basically everything/anything you want.

If during battles you're making things out of all production facilities but it's still going up then maybe consider making extra production facilities just for this problem. It's nice to have perfect macro but it's really hard. Like even watching the pros play. If it's really intense they micro like mad and their macro slips.

Sometimes it's just unavoidable though. Try to minimise it as much as possible but you'd need to be really fast and good to be able to keep resources low while microing and expanding, scouting, etc. As protoss one thing i do is i engage just after warping in a round of units. Then about halfway into the engagement when it's sort of looking ok i can spend the time to warp in more units.

Postman

United States269 Posts

March 31 2011 00:27 GMT

#12

Have a plan, and follow through. Spending the money is mechanics, the important thing is knowing what you want to spend it on.

If you're going marine/tank/viking and you see money piling up after your third kicks in then maybe that's time to get another factory, a few more rax, and then an armory + engi to blast out upgrades. Don't be afraid to queue an extra unit if you have to (though it's not ideal), it's better to queue then to have no units and tons of resources.

For example, as a protoss, if I'm going collossus ball then I usually will just make 3 more gates, and start chronoboosting upgrades out of double forge/twilight council when I take my third.

oGm`REM

United States870 Posts

March 31 2011 00:27 GMT

#13

Try to not ever get supply blocked, take expansions (if you're ahead), upgrades, more production facilities, and constant unit production. Big thing is; try to not ever get supply blocked.

Baarn

United States2702 Posts

March 31 2011 00:27 GMT

#14

Get all upgrades possible at that point while throwing down enough buildings to get them all rolling at the same time. You'll see that you spend everything much faster while maximizing your army.

dstryr

United States69 Posts

March 31 2011 00:28 GMT

#15

On March 31 2011 09:23 NikonTC wrote:
if i'm moving out for a big fight that i know is going to use a lot of my concentration up, i try and throw down more production facilities as i move out, so that when i inevitably float minerals when im microing, i then have increased production to spend it quicker.

of course the best strategy is just to practice and get better mechanics :p

Thanks I'll try that, I usually end up throwing down the structures after and it takes a while to get them running obv

asdfjh

Canada230 Posts

March 31 2011 00:30 GMT

#16

First off, why are you floating? You said it's when you're multi base so is it because you're not producing out of your structures or is it because you just don't have enough buildings?
And aside from just learning to macro better, you can just have a few more structures than you need. Or build expensive units when your money gets high: e.g. you make tanks from your factory but as soon as you start slipping you make a thor instead to bring your money down.

Antisocialmunky

United States5912 Posts

March 31 2011 00:33 GMT

#17

Replays would be helpful.

wrestlingfool08

United States139 Posts

March 31 2011 00:39 GMT

#18

Macro while you micro (build units even when you're in the middle of a battle) and look at replays to figure out where in your build you start floating mins. Next game you play make sure you have more production buildings. Yea...really not much more to say...

Roe

Canada6002 Posts

March 31 2011 00:42 GMT

#19

I sometimes find this, and when I do, it's like a mental kick, or automatic tendency to just press 6s7s8s - and spam units-any will usually do.
Another way to consider it is think of ways you can try to notice when you're not noticing your macro.

Stoffelhase

Germany162 Posts

March 31 2011 01:02 GMT

#20

depending on your skill you need more unitproducing structures i think.. i.e. protoss can support aroung 4 structures per base.. on one base its kinda easy to handle, but on 3 running bases pro can handle to keep their money low with roughly 12 structures that constantly eat money (producing or teching).. midskillers now might need maybe 14 to 16 structures, because they are simply not good enough not having any non-producing downtimes.

in bronze: better 4gate colossi on 1 base with no mins, than 2gate colossi with overmins..

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