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Veratule
United States105 Posts
On March 24 2011 06:47 Beef Noodles wrote: Wait what? Now I'm confused. Is the amp indicator in replays higher or lower than it is supposed to be? The indicator in the replays actually doesnt matter. What matters is the speed of the game being played. The reason it is on normal is because it is easier to screenshot the best APM values at lower replay speeds. | ||
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Veratule
United States105 Posts
On March 24 2011 06:58 garlicface wrote: I've never seen the explanation before, so this was a great read. Very detailed and organized too. Thank you! I appreciate that  | ||
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NoodleFish
South Africa198 Posts
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TedJustice
Canada1324 Posts
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Vintlocke
Netherlands18 Posts
On March 24 2011 07:08 McCain wrote: What people may not be aware of is that the in-game clock feature is also calculated incorrectly. A 25 minute game according to the in-game clock is actually a 18 minute game in real life. That's because the ingame clock also "ticks" at the faster game speed. Basically everything runs on normal time when you play the game on normal. Makes sense no?  Or am I the only one who thinks it'd be pretty weird to play the game on normal and have time actually go slower?Anyway, when you play faster everything goes faster, including the game time. The ingame clock shows the ingame time. Handy that, because your buildings and units build at gametime too! For some reason however Blizz hooked their APM meter up to their ingame clock instead of a normal one. | ||
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Veratule
United States105 Posts
On March 24 2011 07:20 Vintlocke wrote: For some reason however Blizz hooked their APM meter up to their ingame clock instead of a normal one. It's sort of like if a Biologist found a new species of Woodpecker, but instead of saying that it taps it's beak into a tree 15 times a second, it taps 17 times every 1.133 seconds. 15 per second is clearly a lot more useful information. | ||
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Jesushooves
Canada553 Posts
Nice of you to go to such lengths to prove this though , just too bad everyone already knew it. D: | ||
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
On March 24 2011 06:49 Rkie wrote: the only thing that i never understood about all of this isnt why APM is adjusted, but rather why is the fastest setting not normal seconds? I realize this was not the case in BW, but was it only made this way in SC2 to be nostalgic? The standard playing speed is going to be the fastest speed, so why not make that the "normal"? I guess you could make the speeds below that ratios like normal (what is fastest) is 1, the next fastest is .8 and so on. You told him he was wrong, then corrected him by saying the exact same thing just so you know. I didn't tell anyone that he was wrong. Some guy was right. Another guy told him that he was wrong. I cleared up everything. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
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Veratule
United States105 Posts
On March 24 2011 07:29 FabledIntegral wrote: lol apparently Artosis explained it poorly when you heard it, but I think almost all of us knew that it what he meant was by game time as opposed to real time. Knew about this a longggg time ago. Lol no offense to Artosis then. I wish I could meet him in person and give him a big hug for being awesome. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12252 Posts
On March 24 2011 06:59 p4NDemik wrote: I think we'd all like to see APM be calculated in real time, but honestly this is not something I'm going to get up in arms about at all. Whatever constitutes a "high" apm is entirely relative, having less to do with the actual number and more to do with how it stacks against other peoples' APM. If measurements are artificially a little low I'm not going to complain just to satiate people's desire to measure something that is largely extraneous to actual skill anyways. The only time this is really annoying is when we are trying to compare APMs of SC2 players with APMs of players from different games (BW/WC3/etc), and there is little practical use for that. So yeah it would be nice but I'd rather have Blizzard focus on getting us the most important features. Such as replay watching with friends over Bnet and the like. Dustin Browder was made aware of it in the livechat shortly before the game launched, and he said he wanted to get it fixed. Every patch I'm expecting it to be fixed =) All they would have to do is multiply the APM value by X where X is the game speed (which is a constant that's found in the game replay file, I found it in a crash log yesterday when my game crashed). | ||
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Leeto
United States1320 Posts
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barkles
United States285 Posts
Although I don't think it's really necessary for Blizzard to change the way APM is displayed. I mean, it's all relative, right? Maybe there is some psychological factor associated with seeing a higher number, but you could do that by just scaling all of the numbers by 1000 too... And in a way it makes sense, if you look at it from the perspective of "actions per game-minute" instead of "actions per real-time minute" | ||
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Veratule
United States105 Posts
On March 24 2011 07:33 Excalibur_Z wrote: Dustin Browder was made aware of it in the livechat shortly before the game launched, and he said he wanted to get it fixed. Every patch I'm expecting it to be fixed =) All they would have to do is multiply the APM value by X where X is the game speed (which is a constant that's found in the game replay file, I found it in a crash log yesterday when my game crashed). Hmmm...I wonder what's delaying them so much... | ||
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eVolvE342
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T0fuuu
Australia2275 Posts
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Noak3
United States236 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9110 Posts
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froGGifyre
United States213 Posts
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