EPTI will write a letter to Intel, that they support fucking up their own customers and i recommened everyone else should do it too.
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Desti
Germany138 Posts
I will write a letter to Intel, that they support fucking up their own customers and i recommened everyone else should do it too. | ||
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rabidch
United States20288 Posts
but honestly, gom is managing this horribly. i dont actually watch sc2 at all (i stopped after gom start requiring logins and crap and then restreams got taken down) because i dont like gomplayer, i keep forgetting my password to gomtv (and i dont care enough to bother), and i dont care about gsl (its boring). yeah im ranting, but it seems to be a huge fat hassle to watch this stream vs other competitive game* streams which are run by the community on some video streaming site (registering, getting gomplayer vs just clicking on a link). i hope nasl handles these kinds of things a lot better | ||
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Honeybadger
United States821 Posts
On March 15 2011 21:33 Martijn wrote: "I started breaking the law for mac/linux users tonight. GOM shot me down in under 20 minutes, thankfully it's not worth it for them to sue. Insert something irrelevant about which content was being stolen." I understand what you're saying, but I fail to see why it's breaking the law, when I'm just encoding the FREE VERSION OF GSL on my monitor to JTV so people who can't otherwise watch it, can. This isn't vods, this isn't HQ, this isn't something that anyone is paying for in any way, shape, or form, nor is it taking away from GOM's advertising money, since the viewers were people incapable of watching GOM's stream anyways. Nor is it even wasting one iota of their bandwidth. Also, don't glorify lawlessness for the sake of insulting me. I'm restreaming something that's free. Not shoplifting or running a red light or beating my girlfriend. It would be like me streaming "Steal this film," a free movie available online, and then having them claim copyinfringement. It may be LEGALLY sound, but it does make absolutely no sense :-\ Personally, I wish I could restream it simply for the fact that it's fun to sit in a chat room with 60ish people and just talk about what's going on in real time, and not the stupid scrollfest that is the 30,000 member chats. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1595 Posts
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zeru
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Krallin
France431 Posts
On March 15 2011 23:23 NoobSkills wrote: Is it confirmed that they are actually blocking the users or are they just updating to appease the masses? They might just be improving the GOM player for PC users, while ignoring the MAC/Linux users because it just makes business sense. If they are truly blocking MAC/Linus users I don't understand. It doesn't make sense to go after a group they receive no benefit by only allowing PC users to watch their stream, so I personally don't believe they are blocking you guys. They are actively blocking people that do not use Gom Player. However; as of today, you can't have GomPlayer on a MAC (although a MAC version is expected to come out sooner than not) and you have to use Wine to run it on Linux (I haven't tried this method though). And there is actually no support at all for any other kind of device (ie. smartphones). Oh, and by the way. Some people are claiming that Gom's a business and that we should just shut up and accept. That's just not how you run a business. Clients are what make your business, it's not the other way around. It's nice of them to explain the situation afterwards, but we could have used an explanation before. What's more, when did Gom tell me that they're using my bandwidth for their streaming when I subscribed? | ||
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malady
United States600 Posts
no matter how many times i try i cant get the activation code even checking in my spam box so the problem for me isnt that i wont use the gom player but the restreams are my only chance to actually watch anything Imo i would rather watch restreams so i save some space on my hd | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1595 Posts
On March 15 2011 23:26 zeru wrote: As copy pasted many times: http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors2/news/62826 Thank you for proving my entire post? They're not shutting down ways to stream and they're currently working on a fix for the "little guy." In the meantime I do suggest VMware + Windows though if you can and are that dedicated. Doesn't take too much legwork to setup and it will let you stream. | ||
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BrosephBrostar
United States445 Posts
On March 15 2011 23:23 NoobSkills wrote: Is it confirmed that they are actually blocking the users or are they just updating to appease the masses? They might just be improving the GOM player for PC users, while ignoring the MAC/Linux users because it just makes business sense. If they are truly blocking MAC/Linus users I don't understand. It doesn't make sense to go after a group they receive no benefit by only allowing PC users to watch their stream, so I personally don't believe they are blocking you guys. Like I tried to explain before they're blocking everyone that isn't using GOMTV Streamer, including people using Windows versions of GOM Player without GOMTV Streamer. I don't know if it's true for paid streams but it seems to be the case for the free one. | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On March 15 2011 23:47 BrosephBrostar wrote: Like I tried to explain before they're blocking everyone that isn't using GOMTV Streamer, including people using Windows versions of GOM Player without GOMTV Streamer. I don't know if it's true for paid streams but it seems to be the case for the free one. The paid stream hasn't even been working for me in the past week. I keep getting an error message. | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On March 15 2011 23:52 dcemuser wrote: The paid stream hasn't even been working for me in the past week. I keep getting an error message. is it 0x0000051 or whatever? reinstalling gom player fixed that for me. | ||
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Martijn
Netherlands1219 Posts
On March 15 2011 23:13 Honeybadger wrote: I understand what you're saying, but I fail to see why it's breaking the law, when I'm just encoding the FREE VERSION OF GSL on my monitor to JTV so people who can't otherwise watch it, can. This isn't vods, this isn't HQ, this isn't something that anyone is paying for in any way, shape, or form, nor is it taking away from GOM's advertising money, since the viewers were people incapable of watching GOM's stream anyways. Nor is it even wasting one iota of their bandwidth. Also, don't glorify lawlessness for the sake of insulting me. I'm restreaming something that's free. Not shoplifting or running a red light or beating my girlfriend. It would be like me streaming "Steal this film," a free movie available online, and then having them claim copyinfringement. It may be LEGALLY sound, but it does make absolutely no sense :-\ Personally, I wish I could restream it simply for the fact that it's fun to sit in a chat room with 60ish people and just talk about what's going on in real time, and not the stupid scrollfest that is the 30,000 member chats. Even something that's free can be used to generate revenue. Sponsors want to know their money is well invested, streamers depend on ratings to get revenue. If there's 1000 people watching a restream instead of their free stream, that is lost ratings for them. If there's 50 people for every 20 restreams, that is lost ratings for them. Restreaming something that is free to access can most certainly harm the original content provider. Yes, your intention is to do this for people who otherwise can't watch GSL live, but can you guarantee that's always the case? Many people would just watch a restream instead of supporting the content provider because it's simply easier. Installing software is a hurdle that some people won't cross unless it's needed. Your intentions are completely honorable, but again there can be no question that restreams hurt the original content providers. Rebroadcasting someone elses content without permission is not legal in general, even if it's free to access. Better yet, it being free or not has absolutely no relevance. Just the same, if someone were to just restream every stream I did and take away from my viewers, yes, that would hurt me and make it even harder to cover the costs. I have no doubt that initially more people watched restreams than used the gomplayer to watch. So they had say a few thousand viewers on the English stream. Imagine having to show those numbers to a sponsor and then trying to convince a sponsor "yeah but it's totally worth hiring tasteless and artosis and investing in foreign datacenters because people love to watch them". That's why it was so important TL took action against restreams, and that's why it is still so important for GOM that restreams are kept to a minimum. | ||
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Honeybadger
United States821 Posts
On March 16 2011 00:36 Martijn wrote: Even something that's free can be used to generate revenue. Sponsors want to know their money is well invested, streamers depend on ratings to get revenue. If there's 1000 people watching a restream instead of their free stream, that is lost ratings for them. If there's 50 people for every 20 restreams, that is lost ratings for them. Restreaming something that is free to access can most certainly harm the original content provider. I agree. But when the stream is full or people can't watch, there's no further information/revenue to be gained. Yes, your intention is to do this for people who otherwise can't watch GSL live, but can you guarantee that's always the case? Many people would just watch a restream instead of supporting the content provider because it's simply easier. Installing software is a hurdle that some people won't cross unless it's needed. Your intentions are completely honorable, but again there can be no question that restreams hurt the original content providers. I also understand and agree. But what about people who pool money for a single premium service ticket? Gomtv currently lets multiple people stream the HQ stream simultaneously on one account, and lets infinite people use one account to watch the VODs. Money will be lost everywhere. But right now, I really believe that the amount of money lost while the fans are supporting the backbone that they're creating for the MAC/linux users right now is so miniscule that it may in fact be more beneficial to LET it be restreamed, in that it shows they support the community that supports them. Losing 200 potential viewers and gaining 500 overall viewers is, more likely than not, a net gain. More exposure, more popularity, more income. That's how advertising works. And what better than FREE advertising?! I certainly know people who watch my stream had no idea what the GSL was until I started talking about it. And they've probably gained a hundred bucks or more because of me spreading the word. Do you think they've lost more than that in advertising from the few occasions I've restreamed the free stream? Rebroadcasting someone elses content without permission is not legal in general, even if it's free to access. Better yet, it being free or not has absolutely no relevance. Just the same, if someone were to just restream every stream I did and take away from my viewers, yes, that would hurt me and make it even harder to cover the costs. It's all theoretical, however. And I will present you with an interesting experiment conducted by Valve with Left 4 Dead. They dropped the price from brick-and-mortar stores on steam by 50%. Overall revenue went up 320%. They dropped it by 75%. Overall revenue went up 1,470%. Brick-and-mortar sales were completely unaffected. An author (Can't remember his name) released one of his novels, which was still on the best-seller list, for free online. Sales of his other novels went up MASSIVELY. people getting exposure were suddenly becoming fans. When you reach more people, you gain more customers. That's what all copyright-humping people are arguing against. It's all theorycrafting. Instant money lost now can't POSSIBLY mean money gained in the future because you expanded your client base tenfold. It's all worthless theorycrafting. That's why it makes no sense to block restreaming. People who can't watch it now have zero incentive to buy the tickets. But if they watch a restream, and gomtv is cool with it while they set up the mac/linux clients, suddenly those mac/linux clients will say "cool! I love gomtv! I'll support them by buying my ticket now!" I'd bet money that overall revenue would be higher in two months if they weren't so viciously blocking restreaming this entire time. I have no doubt that initially more people watched restreams than used the gomplayer to watch. So they had say a few thousand viewers on the English stream. Imagine having to show those numbers to a sponsor and then trying to convince a sponsor "yeah but it's totally worth hiring tasteless and artosis and investing in foreign datacenters because people love to watch them". Er, I actually doubt this. Initially, lots more watched restreams because the gom player would cap out so quickly. 10 minutes before the match, the free gomplayer would max out and not let anyone on. I decided to just buy the premium service, others watched restreams. The ones that watched restreams were, in all odds, not the type who were going to buy the ticket anyways (or did after watching restreams and experiencing the awesomeness) | ||
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Martijn
Netherlands1219 Posts
On March 16 2011 00:53 Honeybadger wrote: I agree. But when the stream is full or people can't watch, there's no further information/revenue to be gained. I also understand and agree. But what about people who pool money for a single premium service ticket? Gomtv currently lets multiple people stream the HQ stream simultaneously on one account, and lets infinite people use one account to watch the VODs. Money will be lost everywhere. But right now, I really believe that the amount of money lost while the fans are supporting the backbone that they're creating for the MAC/linux users right now is so miniscule that it may in fact be more beneficial to LET it be restreamed, in that it shows they support the community that supports them. Tickets are most certainly not intended to be shared. I don't really understand your argument here. This generally isn't good reasoning, but lets try to grossly extrapolate this. Are you saying it would be ok to buy a ticket under the account "TL" and then give everyone on here the password? Because they're not coming down on this hard, they shouldn't be allowed to cut down other things that are hurting their business? On March 16 2011 00:53 Honeybadger wrote: Losing 200 potential viewers and gaining 500 overall viewers is, more likely than not, a net gain. More exposure, more popularity, more income. That's how advertising works. And what better than FREE advertising?! I certainly know people who watch my stream had no idea what the GSL was until I started talking about it. And they've probably gained a hundred bucks or more because of me spreading the word. Do you think they've lost more than that in advertising from the few occasions I've restreamed the free stream? <Insert tree/forest reference> If a viewer watches a event and no ratings are there to show for it, will the sponsor really consider the event watched? They simply can't allow restreams because it would rapidly extend to a large scale. Opening up the broadcast to a bigger viewerbase is great, but you simply can't promise them with a straight face that only mac/linux users will watch your restream. You even said so yourself, you like doing it for different reasons than to support mac/linux users. On March 16 2011 00:53 Honeybadger wrote: It's all theoretical, however. And I will present you with an interesting experiment conducted by Valve with Left 4 Dead. They dropped the price from brick-and-mortar stores on steam by 50%. Overall revenue went up 320%. They dropped it by 75%. Overall revenue went up 1,470%. Brick-and-mortar sales were completely unaffected. When you reach more people, you gain more customers. That's what all copyright-humping people are arguing against. It's all theorycrafting. Instant money lost now can't POSSIBLY mean money gained in the future because you expanded your client base tenfold. It's all worthless theorycrafting. That's why it makes no sense to block restreaming. People who can't watch it now have zero incentive to buy the tickets. But if they watch a restream, and gomtv is cool with it while they set up the mac/linux clients, suddenly those mac/linux clients will say "cool! I love gomtv! I'll support them by buying my ticket now!" I'd bet money that overall revenue would be higher in two months if they weren't so viciously blocking restreaming this entire time. This is all fine and dandy and I don't want to dismiss this part of your post, but it's still illegal. You can argue with the spirit of the law all you want and why it shouldn't be. But at the end of the line restreaming someone elses content is still illegal and it is to protect the original content providers. On March 16 2011 00:53 Honeybadger wrote: Er, I actually doubt this. Initially, lots more watched restreams because the gom player would cap out so quickly. 10 minutes before the match, the free gomplayer would max out and not let anyone on. I decided to just buy the premium service, others watched restreams. The ones that watched restreams were, in all odds, not the type who were going to buy the ticket anyways (or did after watching restreams and experiencing the awesomeness) That's fine, we can argue about how badly this would hurt GOM's ratings all day without any factual data to back it up. Bottom line is still that it does hurt their ratings right now. Whether it will help them in the future or not is up for debate. Regardless, restreaming free content is still illegal. | ||
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Honeybadger
United States821 Posts
On March 16 2011 01:11 Martijn wrote: Tickets are most certainly not intended to be shared. I don't really understand your argument here. This generally isn't good reasoning, but lets try to grossly extrapolate this. Are you saying it would be ok to buy a ticket under the account "TL" and then give everyone on here the password? Because they're not coming down on this hard, they shouldn't be allowed to cut down other things that are hurting their business? <Insert tree/forest reference> If a viewer watches a event and no ratings are there to show for it, will the sponsor really consider the event watched? They simply can't allow restreams because it would rapidly extend to a large scale. Opening up the broadcast to a bigger viewerbase is great, but you simply can't promise them with a straight face that only mac/linux users will watch your restream. You even said so yourself, you like doing it for different reasons than to support mac/linux users. This is all fine and dandy and I don't want to dismiss this part of your post, but it's still illegal. You can argue with the spirit of the law all you want and why it shouldn't be. But at the end of the line restreaming someone elses content is still illegal and it is to protect the original content providers. That's fine, we can argue about how badly this would hurt GOM's ratings all day without any factual data to back it up. Bottom line is still that it does hurt their ratings right now. Whether it will help them in the future or not is up for debate. Regardless, restreaming free content is still illegal. I think the most "middle ground" we can reach with this, is that both of our opinions on the matter are reflected more in hearsay and theory than actual logistics and data. I'd argue that it isn't hurting their ratings, you'll argue that it doesn't. Let's just agree to disagree on that matter. My last point would be that if the US made all P2P illegal (including noncopyrighted data transfer as in WoW's P2P downloader and university data networks) would you suddenly obey it just because it was the law? Prohibition was a law, too. Following a bad law "just because" is a bad reason to (not arguing that copyright laws are bad, but the legal semantics we dig ourselves into nowadays over stuff like this certainly is) Irregardless, thanks for the intelligent comments. It's nice to see that some of the TL community still care to put a little thought into making their posts respectful, even if they disagree. | ||
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dormer
United States1314 Posts
On March 15 2011 19:13 Akari Takai wrote: You could just use Wine. Mac OS X users and Linux users could easily install GOM Player and view it with that while we wait for the Mac version and hopefully later a Linux version to be released. Tonight I saw this thread and tested it out myself. In the spoiler tags, are the instructions for the latest version of Ubuntu Linux. The instructions could easily be adapter for other versions of Linux, or even Mac, with some tweaking. Here are some pictures showing it working: ![[image loading]](http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/akari_takai/gom1.png) ![[image loading]](http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/akari_takai/gom2.png) ![[image loading]](http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/akari_takai/gom3.png) ![[image loading]](http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/akari_takai/gom4.png) + Show Spoiler + Open Terminal, you'll be entering all the commands in the quotes. First, we need to install Wine sudo apt-get -y install wine Then, we need to install the GOM Player cd ~/Downloads wget http://software-files-l.cnet.com/s/software/11/65/48/99/GOMPLAYERENSETUP.EXE?e=1300194368&h=e9d31d08ccd13b621b106b23b9670b17&lop=link&ptype=1901&ontid=13632&siteId=4&edId=3&spi=c7500b638ecf8cecf7ecffcb98150797&pid=11654899&psid=10551786&fileName=GOMPLAYERENSETUP.EXE chmod +x GOMPLAYERENSETUP.EXE wine ./GOMEPLAYERENSETUP.EXE Then, we need to add video/audio dependencies to make sure GOM Player works wget http://winetricks.org/winetricks chmod +x winetricks sh winetricks d3dx9 d3dx9_28 d3dx9_36 d3dx10 d3dxof devenum dinput8 dirac directmusic directplay directx9 divx dsound ffdshow quartz xvid And finally we need to create a wrapper and URI handler for Firefox/whateverbrowser to understand that we want GOM Player to open the stream. sudo echo '#!/bin/sh/' > /usr/bin/gomplayer sudo echo 'exec wine "C:\\Program Files\\GRETECH\\GomPlayer\\GOM.exe" "$@"' > /usr/bin/gomplayer gconftool-2 --set --type=string /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/gomcmd/command '/usr/bin/gomplayer "%s"' gconftool-2 --set --type=bool /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/gomcmd/enabled true gconftool-2 --set --type=bool /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/gomcmd/need-terminal true That's it! During this process the main GOM Player installer window will appear as well as a few other installers. Follow the setup process as you would normally do on a windows computer. There should be no video or sound issues encountered. So IDK if not being able to use the video player of your choice is such a big deal. GOM Player seems pretty stable. I've been using it as my primary video player for about 3-4 months now, and I've had zero problems with it. If people are having problems with the stream, I suspect that has a lot more to do with stream issues/connectivity issues than not. Certainly it's not discrimination against OSes. It's just against video players. Just to restate, running GomPlayer through Wine on my Mac (10.5) is not working. It installs and opens, but crashes when I try to open the stream. That said, I've never used Wine before and haven't followed any particular guides, so there may be a workaround that I'm missing. If so, please feel free to share that info. The people defending Gom are totally right - Gom hasn't promised Mac support, they have every right to protect their content. But not supporting a potential customer base is never a good choice. We want to watch the GSL stream - they want us to watch GSL. We can't watch because they don't support Mac and there's no current alternative. No one here is happy. I've thought about buying a season pass for the VODs, but I'd much prefer the stream, so I don't see the logic in paying for a less appealing product because the company doesn't offer support for Mac (had my Mac for three years, and lack of Mac support has never been a problem for me until now). Again, it's totally at their discretion, and I get that their lack of support is due more to the situation (Windows dominance in Korea, lack of time or resources [I guess?] to develop a Mac or Linux client). I'm not angry at them, but as a viewer, I really feel pushed away by this and will wind up just not watching anymore if this isn't addressed by either a workaround or a proper Mac client. | ||
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purecarnagge
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NoobSkills
United States1595 Posts
On March 16 2011 02:00 dormer wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 15 2011 19:13 Akari Takai wrote: You could just use Wine. Mac OS X users and Linux users could easily install GOM Player and view it with that while we wait for the Mac version and hopefully later a Linux version to be released. Tonight I saw this thread and tested it out myself. In the spoiler tags, are the instructions for the latest version of Ubuntu Linux. The instructions could easily be adapter for other versions of Linux, or even Mac, with some tweaking. Here are some pictures showing it working: + Show Spoiler + Open Terminal, you'll be entering all the commands in the quotes. First, we need to install Wine sudo apt-get -y install wine Then, we need to install the GOM Player cd ~/Downloads wget http://software-files-l.cnet.com/s/software/11/65/48/99/GOMPLAYERENSETUP.EXE?e=1300194368&h=e9d31d08ccd13b621b106b23b9670b17&lop=link&ptype=1901&ontid=13632&siteId=4&edId=3&spi=c7500b638ecf8cecf7ecffcb98150797&pid=11654899&psid=10551786&fileName=GOMPLAYERENSETUP.EXE chmod +x GOMPLAYERENSETUP.EXE wine ./GOMEPLAYERENSETUP.EXE Then, we need to add video/audio dependencies to make sure GOM Player works wget http://winetricks.org/winetricks chmod +x winetricks sh winetricks d3dx9 d3dx9_28 d3dx9_36 d3dx10 d3dxof devenum dinput8 dirac directmusic directplay directx9 divx dsound ffdshow quartz xvid And finally we need to create a wrapper and URI handler for Firefox/whateverbrowser to understand that we want GOM Player to open the stream. sudo echo '#!/bin/sh/' > /usr/bin/gomplayer sudo echo 'exec wine "C:\\Program Files\\GRETECH\\GomPlayer\\GOM.exe" "$@"' > /usr/bin/gomplayer gconftool-2 --set --type=string /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/gomcmd/command '/usr/bin/gomplayer "%s"' gconftool-2 --set --type=bool /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/gomcmd/enabled true gconftool-2 --set --type=bool /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/gomcmd/need-terminal true That's it! During this process the main GOM Player installer window will appear as well as a few other installers. Follow the setup process as you would normally do on a windows computer. There should be no video or sound issues encountered. So IDK if not being able to use the video player of your choice is such a big deal. GOM Player seems pretty stable. I've been using it as my primary video player for about 3-4 months now, and I've had zero problems with it. If people are having problems with the stream, I suspect that has a lot more to do with stream issues/connectivity issues than not. Certainly it's not discrimination against OSes. It's just against video players. Just to restate, running GomPlayer through Wine on my Mac (10.5) is not working. It installs and opens, but crashes when I try to open the stream. That said, I've never used Wine before and haven't followed any particular guides, so there may be a workaround that I'm missing. If so, please feel free to share that info. The people defending Gom are totally right - Gom hasn't promised Mac support, they have every right to protect their content. But not supporting a potential customer base is never a good choice. We want to watch the GSL stream - they want us to watch GSL. We can't watch because they don't support Mac and there's no current alternative. No one here is happy. I've thought about buying a season pass for the VODs, but I'd much prefer the stream, so I don't see the logic in paying for a less appealing product because the company doesn't offer support for Mac (had my Mac for three years, and lack of Mac support has never been a problem for me until now). Again, it's totally at their discretion, and I get that their lack of support is due more to the situation (Windows dominance in Korea, lack of time or resources [I guess?] to develop a Mac or Linux client). I'm not angry at them, but as a viewer, I really feel pushed away by this and will wind up just not watching anymore if this isn't addressed by either a workaround or a proper Mac client. I'm not necessarily supporting them, but I understand their viewpoint. Spend $ to rework our GOM player to fit the needs of one of the smaller fan bases (i think even smaller than linux) or ignore them. I do however think they might as well go ahead and do it because they will wind up making way more money than they lose by recoding the player. I'm glad though that you are not one of the paranoid people who think that GOM is out to get you and they're purposefully blocking your viewership. I have no doubt that they will eventually get this done, but it could take up to the next GSL after the GSTL. | ||
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Nerski
United States1095 Posts
The only thing I can think of is that VLC type players can record what they watch and gom is worried about people recording the cast and rebroadcasting....but if you really wanted to record it...you could just as easily view it with the gom player and use a program like fraps to record it still. So in the end all they do is tick off people who legitimately just want to watch the gsl. | ||
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piochelin
Spain31 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Greetings First of all, sorry for the bad english, but it's not my main language, but even so I'm making my best effort to write this and I hope you can read it with no problem. My name is Alberto, from Spain, and I'm a e-sport fan, specially starcraft 2. For the first moment I knew about GSL I was totally excited, but as the seassons progresed (now about to end the fourth) I quite lose a lot of interest in watching GSL, A LOT. In the first GSL I was watching every match you provide me, but as the time goes on I lose this interest to the point that I only watch 2 matches in the GLS4. Someone will see this upper part of this open letter and could think I'm losing interest in e-sport or in SC2. No. Really, It's not the problem. I watch like 3 hours a day of SC2, when I'm doing my work in the computer, when im in free hours at the college, and you know what? I enjoy a LOT. The problem I have its the GOMTV player. As simple as that. I'm a linux user, as well as my brother, as well as a lot of people. A lot of people you constanty ignore for any reason. At the start of the GSL1 re-stream was aviable and linux and MAC users can enjoy viewing his favourite game, but as the time goes on you have shut down every option we have to watch our favourite game to the point that people dont mind now to watch or not the games, and they're leaving your boat. There are a lot of free cups, like the IEM, craftcup the incoming TLS3 (so excited for this one), I know every one, and watched almost all of them since beta. And this tourneys have his owns streams, 2 in the minor cups and leagues and 3 or 4 in the others ones, and caster in english, german, french.... and if there is not in your language and you ask, I know they will be pleased to allow you a re-stream; and you can wacht it in someone stream just as he is watching the "official" stream... suddenly the word spread... the people who enjoy come again... the greats players come to play for the prices and fame. They have grown his owns cups, and they have a litte bit success i think. All these cups, tourneys and so is your competition and even if they have not a lot of money or resources they have done something better than you. The public orientation. They are oriented to the public, to make them enjoy, to offer neat prices for the playes, and NOT to be the only stream aviable. I'm not saying that you have to cast your GSL full free, or make a open stream in the GOM webpage, not even that allow people to watch the GSL in the VLC player even if they have bought tickets. The only thing I ask you for its a little more open mind for the users. We wont see GSL in the VLC if you provide me a better and "legal" option of your own. I won't watch re-stream if you provide me with a GOMplayer for linux (I won't talk about MAC because I'm not a MAC user and I hear you are working in the GOMplayer for MAC). I REALLY WANT TO WATCH GLS IN YOUR SITE, IN YOUR PLAYER, please stop ignoring all not-windows users. Of course that this its a bussiness, and you can do what you want there. But you have to remember that your ultimate point in your bussiness are the people who are really trying hard just to make a way they can watch the GSL, and a lot of them are very unhappy now with the way you have choose and everyone that not watch those games, are one that is not watching the ads, the sponsor and the spots... We was very excited about the GSL of GOM when anunced time ago, and now a lot of these people are quiting, just because they CAN NOT watch the GSL, because they cant, or because when they find a way, you cut it. This is my beg, i just hope you can find a solution, adding a webembed stream in your webpage, allowing someone of your own to re-stream or developing a GOMtv native for linux... Thats all I have to say to you. Thank you for reading. Really really sorry 'bout the bad english  | ||
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