• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:38
CEST 03:38
KST 10:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy14
Community News
LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments2Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris53Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!15
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Production Quality - Maestros of the Game Vs RSL 2 Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away Heaven's Balance Suggestions (roast me)
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies
Brood War
General
Pros React To: herO's Baffling Game The Korean Terminology Thread ASL20 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Is there English video for group selection for ASL Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1200 users

Meeting Dustin Browder - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
March 05 2011 01:11 GMT
#21
"Me: How do you feel about leaving Goliaths out of multiplayer?
Browder: Goliaths are an awesome unit. However, we decided that the Thor should be given a chance. I still do not know if I regret this decision."

Wow, that's a pretty candid answer.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
March 05 2011 01:12 GMT
#22
and vids on this lecture?
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
TheNihilist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States178 Posts
March 05 2011 01:13 GMT
#23
On March 05 2011 10:03 Kisezik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2011 10:00 MuTT wrote:
Wow a diamond player... That is really, really REALLY bad.


Yeah, but its really hard to get really high up in the ladder with 'random'. His job is to design the game, not aim for grandmasters league


I've always got the impression that David Kim is the principle decision maker on balance changes though. So I think any concern over a diamond level player being responsible for balancing the game would be misguided.
Kisezik
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia70 Posts
March 05 2011 01:14 GMT
#24
On March 05 2011 10:09 Suc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2011 10:00 MuTT wrote:
Wow a diamond player... That is really, really REALLY bad.

Mate, you're exaggerating just a bit there. Diamond players are not that bad.

Thanks for the interview OP.


Diamond players are horrible, its like the new plat.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19250 Posts
March 05 2011 01:15 GMT
#25
No vids unfortunately. And anyone who thinks diamond is bad when he has to work every day and can only play random every time... is out of their mind. He did admit to sweating profusely and having huge nerves in office tournaments. But said he loves the rush. Browder is just like us! He's such a down to earth guy in person.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 05 2011 01:16 GMT
#26
On March 05 2011 10:13 TheNihilist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2011 10:03 Kisezik wrote:
On March 05 2011 10:00 MuTT wrote:
Wow a diamond player... That is really, really REALLY bad.


Yeah, but its really hard to get really high up in the ladder with 'random'. His job is to design the game, not aim for grandmasters league


I've always got the impression that David Kim is the principle decision maker on balance changes though. So I think any concern over a diamond level player being responsible for balancing the game would be misguided.

Plus they gather tons of progamer feedback as well.

Its not like Dustin plays a ladder game, loses to X and decides X will be nerfed in the next patch.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 05 2011 01:18 GMT
#27
These responses actually seem intelligent and make sense. It's pretty cool to see a bit of his thought process. Hopefully more of that shines through in any revisions HotS might make to the game.
you gotta dance
thezergk
Profile Joined October 2009
United States492 Posts
March 05 2011 01:19 GMT
#28
yeah although he is the lead developer, David Kim is the one whos sole purpose is to balance the game. That is why people like Maka send him the replays. I think its fine that Dustin Browder is only diamond.
Nada vs. TLO Results: "Nada 1 TLO 1 Bnet 2 KESPA 1"
RevRich
Profile Joined February 2011
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-05 01:23:13
March 05 2011 01:21 GMT
#29
On March 05 2011 10:00 MuTT wrote:
Wow a diamond player... That is really, really REALLY bad.


Says the random forum poster. Diamond isn't that bad, esp. for a guy who plays random and has a full time job. Please post us your credentials so we may decide whether or not you're really really, REALLY bad.

As for the interview, thanks for taking the time to get this to us. He seems pretty cool and levelheaded. Thanks again.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
March 05 2011 01:23 GMT
#30
On March 05 2011 10:13 TheNihilist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2011 10:03 Kisezik wrote:
On March 05 2011 10:00 MuTT wrote:
Wow a diamond player... That is really, really REALLY bad.


Yeah, but its really hard to get really high up in the ladder with 'random'. His job is to design the game, not aim for grandmasters league


I've always got the impression that David Kim is the principle decision maker on balance changes though. So I think any concern over a diamond level player being responsible for balancing the game would be misguided.


He is the balance guy. And he also plays random. Likely forced by Blizzard. Random players typically have poor late game play. Explains a lot in terms of the maps we see... and possibly some of the balance changes *cough* amulet.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12236 Posts
March 05 2011 01:24 GMT
#31
Me: Will there be a SC2 tournament at next years GDC?
Browder: I actually think that would be an amazing idea and will be suggesting it to the director of GDC later today.


GDC is not typically what you think of when you think of hosted tournaments. That would indeed be fantastic.

I'm actually surprised Dustin Browder is a Diamond player. Normally developers and designers aren't very skilled (since they don't have to be necessarily), I would have thought him to be a Gold or Plat player.

The bonus question at the bottom I think reveals more information than we realize. Dropped hints at automated tournaments in the future? I think the last thing we heard on that was "this is something we want to do", and we heard that answer for a whole bunch of things like multiplayer online replays =)
Moderator
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
March 05 2011 01:25 GMT
#32
He likes macro play and he likes TLO. What?
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 05 2011 01:25 GMT
#33
MarineKingPrime protoss!!!!
Professional tech investor, part time DotA scrub | Follow @AllMeasures on Twitter
Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
March 05 2011 01:27 GMT
#34
Poor guy is gonna get flamed for saying he likes marine king...

Good interview though.
gg wp
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 05 2011 01:28 GMT
#35
On March 05 2011 10:24 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
Me: Will there be a SC2 tournament at next years GDC?
Browder: I actually think that would be an amazing idea and will be suggesting it to the director of GDC later today.


GDC is not typically what you think of when you think of hosted tournaments. That would indeed be fantastic.

I'm actually surprised Dustin Browder is a Diamond player. Normally developers and designers aren't very skilled (since they don't have to be necessarily), I would have thought him to be a Gold or Plat player.

The bonus question at the bottom I think reveals more information than we realize. Dropped hints at automated tournaments in the future? I think the last thing we heard on that was "this is something we want to do", and we heard that answer for a whole bunch of things like multiplayer online replays =)


I think it might be hints at that, automated tournaments. I can't think of any reason to implement "Bronze league tournament maps", other than for tournaments over Bnet. I really hope this is true! :p
you gotta dance
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
March 05 2011 01:28 GMT
#36
On March 05 2011 10:00 MuTT wrote:
Wow a diamond player... That is really, really REALLY bad.

Speak for yourself sunshine.

Really cool interview btw!
It's cool when even Blizz employees can follow the pro scene!
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
March 05 2011 01:29 GMT
#37
On March 05 2011 10:25 neobowman wrote:
He likes macro play and he likes TLO. What?


Micro, not Macro.

iiiiii
Kevmeister @ Dota2
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44465 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-05 01:29:52
March 05 2011 01:29 GMT
#38
Cool interview! It's always nice to read what the game designers have to say about their game in general. It provides nice insight, and Browder's a pretty honest guy.

I wish people wouldn't be so astonished that he's not the absolute best SC2 player in the world. lol.

They're busy listening to us whine about the game and patching it up... so we can play and then whine some more

And HotS might be done in one year? So in Blizzard time, that's three years, right? I'm in no rush
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Healingproof
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden81 Posts
March 05 2011 01:35 GMT
#39
On March 05 2011 10:08 DyEnasTy wrote:
Prob the only interview of Dustin ive actually liked. Ive had a very biased/skewed view against him. But I did enjoy some of those answers.

He plays random. How can you find his opinions biased? I can't help but get the feeling that you're the biased guy here, feeling offended by a random-player who's developing the game's opinions about game-balance. Could you give any example quotes of him being biased? I can't imagine what it would be. "Random needs a buff"?
OpRaider
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States307 Posts
March 05 2011 01:37 GMT
#40
On March 05 2011 10:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Cool interview! It's always nice to read what the game designers have to say about their game in general. It provides nice insight, and Browder's a pretty honest guy.

I wish people wouldn't be so astonished that he's not the absolute best SC2 player in the world. lol.

They're busy listening to us whine about the game and patching it up... so we can play and then whine some more

And HotS might be done in one year? So in Blizzard time, that's three years, right? I'm in no rush

No no no no, You are thinking of Valve time here. Blizzard just never makes announcements, and rumors spread that it will be released soon, it is not, then disappointment.
it is what it is -day9 airplane story
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
22:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #16
davetesta72
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech79
RuFF_SC2 67
StarCraft: Brood War
sSak 43
Noble 8
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 694
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K95
semphis_49
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King61
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor111
Other Games
summit1g7318
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH169
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra667
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
8h 22m
Cure vs Bunny
Creator vs Zoun
Maestros of the Game
15h 22m
Maru vs Lambo
herO vs ShoWTimE
BSL Team Wars
17h 22m
Team Hawk vs Team Sziky
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 8h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 14h
The PondCast
4 days
Online Event
5 days
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
[ Show More ]
Cosmonarchy
6 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-02
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21: BSL Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.