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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
March 01 2011 14:31 GMT
#21
On March 01 2011 23:04 QTIP. wrote:
Also, some players are bolded due to their notability. (Past GSL performances, other tournament wins etc.


I know you said not to turn this thread into that, but you bolded Boxer (meaning you were fine with bolding people based just off SC1 accomplishments) and not Nada, so I'm assuming forgetting to bold Nada was a mistake because he's one of the most notable players in the history of the entire game.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
March 01 2011 14:31 GMT
#22
Nada, winner of July and Clide, MC and Jinro.

It's pretty much a race between those guys, unless the upsets continue, in which case San wins.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
krews
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1308 Posts
March 01 2011 14:33 GMT
#23
On March 01 2011 23:31 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 23:04 QTIP. wrote:
Also, some players are bolded due to their notability. (Past GSL performances, other tournament wins etc.


I know you said not to turn this thread into that, but you bolded Boxer (meaning you were fine with bolding people based just off SC1 accomplishments) and not Nada, so I'm assuming forgetting to bold Nada was a mistake because he's one of the most notable players in the history of the entire game.


he didnt bold nada because it was expected for him to advance..
LinGz
Profile Joined January 2011
Dominican Republic23 Posts
March 01 2011 14:33 GMT
#24
a lot of new winning face in this GSL... Korea is on fire... those guys are practice like hell in this GSL... this isn't upset for me, its interesting
"The One Who Doesn't Fall, Doesn't Stand Up"
Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 14:36:21
March 01 2011 14:35 GMT
#25
On March 01 2011 23:31 RPR_Tempest wrote:
winner of July and Clide


Is it just me, or is July not all that impressive? (besides his mind-boggling elimination of MVP)
As it turns out, marines don't actually cost any money -Jinro
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
March 01 2011 14:36 GMT
#26
On March 01 2011 23:25 Sgany wrote:
NaDa's rise of the first SC2 Bonjwa has begun........


I support this claim
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
StarCraft64
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States354 Posts
March 01 2011 14:36 GMT
#27
On March 01 2011 23:25 Sgany wrote:
NaDa's rise of the first SC2 Bonjwa has begun........


Now, just as the man who wishes to be world chess champion must win at least one game of chess, so must he win at least one GSL.
Elaborate euphemisms may conceal your intent to kill, but behind any use of power over another the ultimate assumption remains: "I feed on your energy."
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
March 01 2011 14:42 GMT
#28
On March 01 2011 23:29 NoobSkills wrote:
It is all because of the STUPID fucking group play. Why would you let players get elimanted off of the best score in several BO1 series at that high of a level? Even if the maps are completely even someone can just have some dominating 1 base all in or 7 base camp fest either way it devalues the result. If anything Code A should have this not Code S where real skill for the big prize is determined by a series not lucky draws on map, opponent, BO rock paper contest.

Except for july vs MVP where july got lucky with his baneling bust there hasnt really been any games where you could say that one person got lucky or did an all in that paid off really well. Sure fruitdealer does all ins but he always has and see where that got him, yeah code a. So overall your bitching about the group format is just plain odd. Most games the person playing the best won, no matter how rich in wins their history is or isnt.
Do you really want chat rooms?
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
March 01 2011 14:43 GMT
#29
On March 01 2011 23:31 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 23:04 QTIP. wrote:
Also, some players are bolded due to their notability. (Past GSL performances, other tournament wins etc.


I know you said not to turn this thread into that, but you bolded Boxer (meaning you were fine with bolding people based just off SC1 accomplishments) and not Nada, so I'm assuming forgetting to bold Nada was a mistake because he's one of the most notable players in the history of the entire game.


I didnt bold NaDa because he was expected to make it past the round of 32, and he did. Yes he is notable, but can we agree that it would be confusing if I bolded sanZenith and NaDa in the same group?
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 01 2011 14:43 GMT
#30
The "elite" zergs and MKP losing is not unexpected. They were doing so well because they abused having unique strategies and exploiting holes in other people's mechanics/knowledge of the game.

Newsflash: Marines and banelings are not the only part of TvZ
Freeeeeeedom
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10886 Posts
March 01 2011 14:44 GMT
#31
Actually i think it's interesting that SC2 is allready "that" stable with some players staying on top.

The game is still very young, i honestly think it's not surprising at all that there is a wild variety of players performing good...
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 01 2011 14:49 GMT
#32
I'm kind of confused how you bold FruitDealer and Genius, but do not consider Tester advancing an upset. Obviously not all 3 can advance.

Anyway...for the most part, everybody just got outplayed. There hasn't been a lot of cheese in the GSL this season, but in Bo1 matches, sometimes a guy just has the game of his life. Your explanations are so overreaching, why can't you just accept that sanZenith had a good day or NesTea had a bad one? Why does it have to mean that NesTea is weak or san just cheesed/got lucky? Everyone who advanced, deserved to advance, based on the 2-3 games they have played in this one single tournament.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 01 2011 14:49 GMT
#33
On March 01 2011 23:43 cLutZ wrote:
The "elite" zergs and MKP losing is not unexpected. They were doing so well because they abused having unique strategies and exploiting holes in other people's mechanics/knowledge of the game.

Newsflash: Marines and banelings are not the only part of TvZ

Actually, MKP won his only TvZ that night with a crazy heavy-macro, heavy-mech strategy that was absolutely not characteristic of his heavy marine play.

He lost his TvP by just playing poorly, and he lost his TvT by opening with banshees and hellions and doing almost no damage with his opening push, after which sC just pushed and killed off MKP's paltry army.

IMO, MKP isn't a good example of a player losing because he overused a unique strategy. Tonight, he was playing with completely different strategies compared to his usual mass bio play, and it only worked in one of the three games.

Also, Fruitdealer just sucks at ZvP.
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
March 01 2011 14:49 GMT
#34
You wont be that surprised if u watch the games. It's not like GSL 1,2,3 when you were upset to see a big name get cheesed out, this time they got outplayed, no shit
Best GSL yet, juding by the quality of the games
Grayson Carlyle
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada219 Posts
March 01 2011 14:51 GMT
#35
On March 01 2011 23:29 NoobSkills wrote:Even if the maps are completely even someone can just have some dominating 1 base all in or 7 base camp fest either way it devalues the result.


Except, this didn't happen. Along with cLutZ's point, the new maps really make a huge difference because how you win on a large map is very different from a smaller map. A lot of Zergs for instance have been shooting themselves in the foot playing offensive Muta/b/ling, which is just a plain bad idea in wide open middles (Tal'darim Altar and Terminus especially) and on maps with harassable expansions. You can't win that way. Players will have to adapt, and a lot of them just haven't adapted fast enough for this season.
Take what ye can
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 01 2011 14:52 GMT
#36
On March 01 2011 23:31 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Nada, winner of July and Clide, MC and Jinro.

It's pretty much a race between those guys, unless the upsets continue, in which case San wins.


Unless you base your opinion on the strength of their play so far in the GSL rather than the strength of their name, in which case San also wins.

So many people saying stupid stuff like "Oh looks like the path is clear for MC/Jinro now!" Well no, actually it's not. If I were Jinro I'd be much more scared of a random guy playing godlike SC2 than a champion like NesTea who's only in mediocre form.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 14:53:56
March 01 2011 14:53 GMT
#37
On March 01 2011 23:49 Cel.erity wrote:
I'm kind of confused how you bold FruitDealer and Genius, but do not consider Tester advancing an upset. Obviously not all 3 can advance.

Anyway...for the most part, everybody just got outplayed. There hasn't been a lot of cheese in the GSL this season, but in Bo1 matches, sometimes a guy just has the game of his life. Your explanations are so overreaching, why can't you just accept that sanZenith had a good day or NesTea had a bad one? Why does it have to mean that NesTea is weak or san just cheesed/got lucky? Everyone who advanced, deserved to advance, based on the 2-3 games they have played in this one single tournament.


You've got a point, I haven't really accounted for the fact that a Best of 1 can lead to some night/day performances. I'll add it in my post.
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
March 01 2011 14:54 GMT
#38
this is the season of Jinro and Clide!!!
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
March 01 2011 14:58 GMT
#39
Oh my god, another Jinro vs MC epic battle incoming. *Starts to prepare the bunker*

I was very suprised that 3 of the 4 past GSL champions got knocked down to the Up&Down matches. Yes, FD has been on a bad streak, but Nestea should still be going strong, and MVP was last season's winner. I guess it was a combo of bad luck, possibly a little cockiness and underexpecting their opponents.

Anyways, MC and HuK HWAITING!
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
March 01 2011 14:59 GMT
#40
A lot of it is the maps. The top players have excessive practice, at high-level play, on the old maps compared to the "lower" players. The new maps are simply going to require different play styles. The "lower" players simply had a large opportunity and the "upper" players were brought back down to the pack.

It's been very noticeable that all of the non-mirror matchups are playing very differently on those maps. TvZ is all about drop-Harass into a 200/200 push or Z attacking before that. PvZ has taken this weird Muta vs Anti-Muta thing right now (or early timing attacks). And PvT is pretty much a matter of the Terran keeping the Protoss from having all 3 techs fully active before they can go for the death-push.

When they added the new maps, everyone was coming into them with the same amount of experience. Any non-Blizzard map plays different from a Blizzard map, so the old "metagame" doesn't really apply anymore. So the advantage the "better" players had was negated. So the new people that ground those maps the hardest had a real advantage going in. We all just didn't realize what the new maps were going to do to GSL. But it's nice to see so far.

As for San, he obviously had skill to make all 3 GSL opens, so there was something there. A few us of seem to be of the opinion that he finally got over his stage fright, as that game against NesTeas was a thing of beauty. That's about the best PvZ I've ever seen.
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