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Wesso
Netherlands1245 Posts
- An alert has been added when MULEs expire. - An alert has been added when the Chrono Boost buff expires. - An alert has been added when the Spawn Larva buff expires. Seems a pretty big deal to me. Makes it zerg macro easier and perhaps toss will actually use all their chrono now... | ||
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dump
Japan514 Posts
Also I have no idea how archon toilet was in any way detrimental to the game. It made pro games more entertaining to watch, whilst not affecting the average player too much. Makes no sense. Heck, if I were GomTV, I'd complain. | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
With this change, you can still defend your expo, but you'd have to keep Templars there throughout the game, which would weaken the main Protoss deathball, which is a good thing given it's lategame power. Personally, I think they should make Templar still start with enough energy for storm, but only if it comes out of a normal gateway instead of warpgate. There is no real issue with Templar being able to storm right away, but the issue is being able to warp in storms anywhere you want to | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On February 26 2011 18:55 happyness wrote: Because blizzard only works in intervals of 25. Nothing costs outside of 25 intervals and energy is the same way. Actually that's just for "spell costs". Starting energy can be anything they want. A compromise of keeping amulet in and making only give a boost of +20 or +15 (so that HTs have to wait just 19-15 game seconds before being able to storm) is something I agree with. | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On February 26 2011 18:58 wolfe wrote: quite a LOT of them like it. including sheth, catz, strife, gretrop Have they commented publically anyway, or earlier in the thread. Got to admit, I'm a little curious as to what Idra thinks, as he's been waiting for a Zerg buff before he plays again | ||
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AT_Tack
Germany435 Posts
On February 26 2011 18:54 Fa1nT wrote: I don't see why people like the "dps buff" for fungal growth. The spells main use was the stun duration Tanks siegeing? Fungal. Big army running at your base, no army? Fungal 20 phoenix/muta in your base? Fungal Dropship in your base? Fungal + infested marines All these things are now nerfed, and in exchange, we get faster damage... Except that banelings already do fine against fungaled marines :/ If anything, 16 seconds for the 36 damage would be a real buff. Consider: Mass Marines with Medivacs. Fungal just gets healed np. Now Marines should die in 2 fungals even with medivacs on them! An alert has been added when the Spawn Larva buff expires. anyone experienced this? how is the alert displayed? | ||
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WoKKeLs
Netherlands65 Posts
On February 26 2011 18:58 Wesso wrote: Nobody responding to this?: - An alert has been added when MULEs expire. - An alert has been added when the Chrono Boost buff expires. - An alert has been added when the Spawn Larva buff expires. Seems a pretty big deal to me. Makes it zerg macro easier and perhaps toss will actually use all their chrono now... Zerg already has / had a alert for that simply look @ howmany larve u have selected when producing units there isnt much of a difference there | ||
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
On February 26 2011 18:57 MorroW wrote: LOL im afraid they will be terrible broken now. it all depends how fast this projectile is tho. if its like an emp then i will laff my way to victory every game also removing amulett is gonna have a huge impact on protoss o.o mothership change and charge change are both great its rather slow. there is a video in this thread somewhere. blink stalkers can dodge it easy. plus and fast unit (stimmed marines >.>) will dodge it piss easy. so you have to predict the movement of the unit your aiming at. actually i fear that the change will make marines have no counter in TvZ. with good marine control you can dodge both banelings AND infestors.... T>T time will tell though | ||
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wristuzi
United Kingdom1168 Posts
I think the infestor changes are kinda cool. Does it still do the same damage to non-armoured units, but over a shorter time span? Cos a nerf to the damage would be lame : / | ||
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Mortal
2943 Posts
On February 26 2011 18:58 Wesso wrote: Nobody responding to this?: - An alert has been added when MULEs expire. - An alert has been added when the Chrono Boost buff expires. - An alert has been added when the Spawn Larva buff expires. Seems a pretty big deal to me. Makes it zerg macro easier and perhaps toss will actually use all their chrono now... unless you stare @ the left of the screen text religiously, this literally makes 0 difference | ||
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Mike941
United States98 Posts
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
On February 26 2011 19:03 Mike941 wrote: Taking out the the ability to see the number of losses for players below masters league just sounds stupid. How will people evaluate other people for AT games, how will i know how bad my ally was in a RT game, how will a bad player know that they're really really bad or that they really need to watch pro replays? Finally why take the number of losses out of a game where the objective is to win? SC2 everybody is a winner! | ||
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Rampager
Australia1007 Posts
On February 26 2011 18:58 Wesso wrote: Nobody responding to this?: - An alert has been added when MULEs expire. - An alert has been added when the Chrono Boost buff expires. - An alert has been added when the Spawn Larva buff expires. Seems a pretty big deal to me. Makes it zerg macro easier and perhaps toss will actually use all their chrono now... It's not a sound alert. It's a bit of text at the left side the screen that literally no one looks at ever. You know where it says "Structure Complete/Upgrade Complete", but you never look because it's accompanied by a soundclip anyway? Yep. | ||
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Mutarisk
United States153 Posts
the new overseer and broodlord costs are a mistake. what was done is... overlord + overseer cost = 150/100 (new cost) corruptor + morph broodlord = 300/250 (new cost) | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On February 26 2011 19:03 Mike941 wrote: Taking out the the ability to see the number of losses for players below masters league just sounds stupid. How will people evaluate other people for AT games, how will i know how bad my ally was in a RT game, how will a bad player know that they're really really bad or that they really need to watch pro replays? Finally why take the number of losses out of a game where the objective is to win? Can't you just look at their league icon? I'd rather have a diamond AT partner with a sub-50% win rate than a plat with 53%... | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4781 Posts
On May 04 2010 02:47 Ghostcom wrote: Funny how many threads happend to pop up about the immortal being OP and that (plat) terrans with 2 ghosts couldn't hit 2 of them if their life depended on it - especially seing as it is undodgeable. Tbh, I think EMP is fine, BUT I would like to see both it and fungal growth dodgeable as I'm very much against "auto-win" buttons (a bit of an exaggeration, what I mean is abilities with a "damage" component that can't be avoided in any way). Seeing as how it wouldn't make sense to make EMP a "DoT" like storm, I would rather see the projectile from BW back (in before lolgoplayBW). This would allow for more micro and more though in the use of EMP. I'm aware that what I propose hereis a direct nerf to EMP (and hopefully fungal growth as well) but I feel it would be a good change nonetheless. Oh and I'm a random player as well, so this isn't just a P player who wants an easier time. Now I only need to convince Blizzard about the EMP as well  Don't like the amulet nerf though, but tbh I'm not too sure that it'll actually get through. | ||
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terranghost
United States980 Posts
On February 26 2011 10:26 Stiver wrote: If ZvZ becomes nothing but instant banelings I might just swith to protoss =/ I hate ZvZ as it is. Out of curiosity where are people getting this from? I see no where in the notes that the baneling time has changed. Although blizzard is notorious for Ninja Changes. I think it is amusing all the toss complaining about the amulet upgrade. It seems to me that the templar route is comparable to the collosus route. Twilight Council 50 sec ---> Templar archives 50sec ---> Research Storm 110sec and First set of high templar 5sec(warpin time) ----> Additional templar build in 45sec (warpgate cooldown time) Robotics Facility 65 sec ---> Robotics Bay 65sec ---> Thermal Lance 140sec and First collosus 75sec You can also build as many templars as you have gateways (and resources of course) as you want the moment your archives finishes so they can start building energy. While the collossus would take 75 game seconds to build. After including the increased build time of the the collosus tech your templar could have built energy for 100sec before the first collosus would of been out. Low and behold that's 10sec less than the time it takes for you to get your storm upgrade anyway. Additional templar that are built after the first batch will have 25-30sec to build energy during the time it takes for more collosus to build. Collosus 300/200/6 cannot target air Templar 50/150/2 can target air The disadvantage of fast templar has always been a slower observer. I think a t/z that scout a templar archives though are going to be more hesitant to move out because you already have the tech tree set up for dt as well. Templar useless after the change? No definitely not. Just their usefulness decreases a little bit it is not eliminated. | ||
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Wesso
Netherlands1245 Posts
On February 26 2011 19:04 Rampager wrote: It's not a sound alert. It's a bit of text at the left side the screen that literally no one looks at ever. You know where it says "Structure Complete/Upgrade Complete", but you never look because it's accompanied by a soundclip anyway? Yep. Ahh thanks, I did think it was a sound alert. | ||
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Junichi
Germany1056 Posts
On February 26 2011 19:04 Mutarisk wrote: actually, yeah guys. the new overseer and broodlord costs are a mistake. what was done is... overlord + overseer cost = 150/100 (new cost) corruptor + morph broodlord = 300/250 (new cost) so you mean there is no increase on cost? is that confirmed? | ||
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AT_Tack
Germany435 Posts
On February 26 2011 19:04 TheTenthDoc wrote: Can't you just look at their league icon? I'd rather have a diamond AT partner with a sub-50% win rate than a plat with 53%... This is a very good thing imo, now people will start to actually play without the fear to mess up their stats! Adios Ladder fear! Hello Ladder grind! | ||
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