• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:41
CET 17:41
KST 01:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT28Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0247LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book
Tourneys
WardiTV Team League Season 10 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April The Dave Testa Open #11 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare Mutation # 512 Overclocked
Brood War
General
Soma Explains: JD's Unrelenting Aggro vs FlaSh CasterMuse Youtube ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ TvZ is the most complete match up
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason New broswer game : STG-World
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here!
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
YOUTUBE VIDEO
XenOsky
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1503 users

Patch 1.3 on PTR - Page 27

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 25 26 27 28 29 186 Next
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50633 Posts
February 26 2011 02:42 GMT
#521
On February 26 2011 11:39 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 11:36 justinsroy wrote:
Hi, im justinsroy, and im a race switcher

I really hope they change some of this stuff, HT with no energy upgrade..? Really?

"Hi Jroy!!"



Alot of Protoss' are spoiled. In BW they didn't have this Upgrade and storm was still scary. And dont argue damage. Units in BW didn't clump up as much.


they did have the upgrade,but instead of giving +25 energy at the start they gave them a faster regen rate.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
flexy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States182 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 02:43:24
February 26 2011 02:42 GMT
#522
I got a message saying the PTR is not available yet.
nvm forgot to relocalize
o_o
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
February 26 2011 02:42 GMT
#523
The Overseer/Brood Lord nerf seems like a bug to me. I bet you anything that the Baneling morph costs 75 min/25 gas.
axellerate
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada179 Posts
February 26 2011 02:42 GMT
#524
On February 26 2011 11:41 MK4512 wrote:
Community
"Hey! Look, people are starting to use mothership! We totally knew the meta game was going to evolve!"

Blizzard
Nerf'd

...



I called this a while back. I knew that once people found viable ways to use new units, they would get nerfed because other people failed to adapt.
BatCat
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Austria630 Posts
February 26 2011 02:42 GMT
#525
I think this patch could be really good. Shame the PTR doesn't work in EU.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
February 26 2011 02:42 GMT
#526
On February 26 2011 11:36 Dommk wrote:
As awesome as Archon Toilet is, I can see why they nerfed it. When you have a mothership out, it is actually pretty difficult to engage it, especially if there are some archons there, one good Vortex and it is lights out with almost no loss for the Protoss, it sucks that the Mothership is gonna suck after the nerf, but it feels like a Hero unit, it either has abilities that can completely change a battle and you need one, or it is mediocre and serves no real purpose


I wish they patched this instead so that the units coming out of the vortex could not attack. This would nullify the archon toilet still, but not nullify the power of thermal lance colossus + vortex :/

I really dislike the amulet change, though I do not believe that will stick. HTs are so effective to hold off bio or a drop with a warp-in storm. This will make transitioning from Colossus to HT so much more difficult. Not to mention, taking away the amulet (and thus ability to warp in storm-ready templars) will make holding mass muta more difficult as Protoss, since you can't warp in HTs to use storm to defend mass muta ball. (I imagine in multiplayer this will be a rampant problem, rather than situational in 1v1)
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
February 26 2011 02:43 GMT
#527
On February 26 2011 11:41 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 11:40 vrok wrote:
On February 26 2011 11:37 Temperance wrote:
Overseer cost increased.

[image loading]

Used to be 50 Minerals and 100 Gas to morph.

...........................................................WHAT?


Check the Broodlords. you'll shit yourself.

I already did. I though that was it. Now I have to change underwear again. So ridiculous. This patch better not make live or I'm gonna stick to playing singleplayer or something.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Decko
Profile Joined May 2010
United States150 Posts
February 26 2011 02:43 GMT
#528
On February 26 2011 11:39 KonohaFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 11:38 ch33psh33p wrote:
Why are we ignoring the two MEGA NERFS to zerg?

Brood Lord up to 450/350

Overseer at 150/100

WTF?


It's probably a bug as these changes aren't in the patch notes.



I really hope so, otherwise Blizzard's ears might not be as attuned as they claim they are. I've heard from various Zerg players that one of their biggest issues is scouting. I think maybe David Kim needs a few other professionals around him full time, it doesn't seem like community is getting the patch changes it wants. We shall see though, no need to go overboard at this juncture.
Superman does good, you're doing well.
FeeL_ThE_RusH
Profile Joined February 2010
Ireland227 Posts
February 26 2011 02:43 GMT
#529
On February 26 2011 11:39 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 11:36 justinsroy wrote:
Hi, im justinsroy, and im a race switcher

I really hope they change some of this stuff, HT with no energy upgrade..? Really?

"Hi Jroy!!"



Alot of Protoss' are spoiled. In BW they didn't have this Upgrade and storm was still scary. And dont argue damage. Units in BW didn't clump up as much.


Yea we should 'unspoil' Terran and put EMP on Ravens then... 8)
#starcraft.ie on Quakenet, Irish SC2ers assemble
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
February 26 2011 02:44 GMT
#530
As a Zerg player, I'm feeling really sad right now.
Lucius22
Profile Joined February 2011
172 Posts
February 26 2011 02:44 GMT
#531
protoss, zerg complaining that this is the most awful shit ever

terran: comon guys, ht, fungal, broodlords, overseers were too op. the game is balanced now
tmtx
Profile Joined April 2010
71 Posts
February 26 2011 02:44 GMT
#532
On February 26 2011 11:39 axellerate wrote:
These need to be reverted right now.

- Khaydarin Amulet upgrade (+25 starting energy) has been removed.
- An alert has been added when MULEs expire.
- An alert has been added when the Chrono Boost buff expires.
- An alert has been added when the Spawn Larva buff expires.

The alerts are removing skill from the game.

Protoss players will never again make HT's...


Alerts could have almost as big effect on the game as the in-game clock..
sincerelysLeEpy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States148 Posts
February 26 2011 02:44 GMT
#533
On February 26 2011 11:44 MrBitter wrote:
As a Zerg player, I'm feeling really sad right now.


agreed...the cast time is really going to hurt FG air
sLeEpy - Do what you do for not for fame or to impress anyone, but for God and you will succeed.
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
February 26 2011 02:45 GMT
#534
On February 26 2011 11:44 MrBitter wrote:
As a Zerg player, I'm feeling really sad right now.


I second that. Also love your stream keep up the great work.
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
February 26 2011 02:45 GMT
#535
So is the PTR down or is it just me? I keep getting a message saying that it's unavailable.
Lipski
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland373 Posts
February 26 2011 02:45 GMT
#536
On February 26 2011 11:42 Dommk wrote:
It did more damage and had a much, much bigger AOE, if you landed two good storms then it was devastating, not to mention DT's and Templars were made from the same building AND units had shitty AI so running out of the Storm wasn't as easy as it is now


the problem with storm is not dmg or aoe. the problem is, it's a very decent spell that is effective against majority of terran and/or zerg units, and lategame you can have it instant and anywhere because of amulet + warp-in. this is somewhat op.

i feel like changing amulet to give only +20 energy would be much better and cool change.
"i'll just train hard and win the next one"
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
February 26 2011 02:45 GMT
#537
On February 26 2011 11:39 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 11:36 justinsroy wrote:
Hi, im justinsroy, and im a race switcher

I really hope they change some of this stuff, HT with no energy upgrade..? Really?

"Hi Jroy!!"



Alot of Protoss' are spoiled. In BW they didn't have this Upgrade and storm was still scary. And dont argue damage. Units in BW didn't clump up as much.


I absolutely agree. Plus, this will force protoss players to play with some foresight concerning the warp-ins of their templar. Which ain't a bad thing.
Always smile~
grumpyone
Profile Joined January 2011
48 Posts
February 26 2011 02:45 GMT
#538
On February 26 2011 11:38 ch33psh33p wrote:
Why are we ignoring the two MEGA NERFS to zerg?

Brood Lord up to 450/350

Overseer at 150/100

WTF?


Overseer at 250/100, when you include the cost of the overlord - compared to a cloaked observer at 25/75.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50633 Posts
February 26 2011 02:46 GMT
#539
Archon toilets can still happen.

They just don't kill everything now,but most of the units die.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 26 2011 02:46 GMT
#540
This makes mothership pretty much useless since toileting units is 50% of why the mothership was used in the first place. Now it's totally not worth the price of stargate+beacon+mothership.

High Templers HUUUUGE nerf. HTs gave Protoss a timing window where they can do damage. Terran lost their stim timing, but still has their raven tank timing, so idk how PvT is going to work anymore.
Prev 1 25 26 27 28 29 186 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 19m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech149
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 35750
Calm 4328
Sea 1714
Rain 1644
Jaedong 1510
Shuttle 1276
firebathero 411
Larva 406
Stork 383
Soma 316
[ Show more ]
ZerO 308
BeSt 210
Rush 123
Sharp 92
Dewaltoss 89
EffOrt 87
hero 86
Mind 54
Hm[arnc] 53
Barracks 36
Backho 36
Aegong 36
Rock 33
ToSsGirL 28
Noble 22
IntoTheRainbow 22
sorry 21
scan(afreeca) 17
Terrorterran 17
Dota 2
Gorgc4868
qojqva2024
Counter-Strike
Fnx 826
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK13
Other Games
singsing2007
hiko847
B2W.Neo778
DeMusliM448
crisheroes164
Hui .139
ArmadaUGS108
QueenE105
Mew2King54
KnowMe38
Trikslyr38
ZerO(Twitch)12
tarik_tv1
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL438
Other Games
BasetradeTV43
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis5228
• TFBlade1307
• Scarra333
• Shiphtur175
Other Games
• WagamamaTV263
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 19m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 10h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 17h
OSC
1d 18h
SC Evo Complete
1d 20h
DaveTesta Events
2 days
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-22
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.